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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Tony Fountain <tf...@benefitconcepts.com> on 2007/10/01 17:01:05 UTC
RE: New to Apache
Mark,
I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
Thanks,
Tony Fountain
Benefit Concepts, Inc.
(419) 244-9936 x9010 (office)
(419) 249-7221 (fax)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:23 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: New to Apache
Please don't hi-jack threads.
Mark
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Re: New to Apache
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Mark,
Mark H. Wood wrote:
> I would think I'm being
> efficient by letting the MUA copy the list address for me instead of
> typing it myself.
The only address that should be used for these messages is
users@tomcat.apache.org. There's really no reason to CC anyone since we
all get them anyway.
- -chris
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Re: New to Apache
Posted by Steve Ochani <oc...@ncc.edu>.
On 2 Oct 2007 at 8:51, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:58:23PM -0400, Mark Thomas wrote:
> > Tony Fountain wrote:
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
> >
> > No you didn't. You hit reply to an old message deleted the content
> > and changed the subject. Please don't do this.
>
> Possibly he's an innocent victim of today's over-helpful MUAs. If I'd
> never seen or been told about the Message-ID:, In-Reply-To:, and
> References: headers, I'd think that the above actions had wiped out
> all traces of the previous thread, and I would think I'm being
> efficient by letting the MUA copy the list address for me instead of
> typing it myself.
>
> Authors of gooey MUAs would do well to support listmail better by, for
> example, providing a button to "send new message to the list that
> reflected this message", or enabling the association of a folder with
> an address and providing a button for "send to this folder's
> associated address".
Most mail clients I've used just allow the user to click the From address and it opens up a
new message to that address.
-Steve O.
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Re: New to Apache
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
I know in Thunderbird you can click on the email address of a message
and compose a new message to that person. It's not the same as a reply
which incorporates other header information in order to perserve the
thread association.
--David
Mark H. Wood wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:58:23PM -0400, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
>
>>Tony Fountain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Mark,
>>>
>>>I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
>>>
>>>
>>No you didn't. You hit reply to an old message deleted the content and
>>changed the subject. Please don't do this.
>>
>>
>
>Possibly he's an innocent victim of today's over-helpful MUAs. If I'd
>never seen or been told about the Message-ID:, In-Reply-To:, and
>References: headers, I'd think that the above actions had wiped out
>all traces of the previous thread, and I would think I'm being
>efficient by letting the MUA copy the list address for me instead of
>typing it myself.
>
>Authors of gooey MUAs would do well to support listmail better by, for
>example, providing a button to "send new message to the list that
>reflected this message", or enabling the association of a folder with
>an address and providing a button for "send to this folder's
>associated address".
>
>
>
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Re: New to Apache
Posted by Ken Bowen <kb...@als.com>.
I remind myself regularly that the address is a link at the bottom of
every eamil I get from the list,
and using that sets up everything I need.
Since I save (some) list items, it's easy to get the address to start a
new thread.
--Ken Bowen
Tony Fountain wrote:
> Yes, I did do that - it was just a simple way to obtain the email
> address. I'll be careful not to do this again as I was unaware of this.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony Fountain
> Benefit Concepts, Inc.
> (419) 244-9936 x9010 (office)
> (419) 249-7221 (fax)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark H. Wood,UL 0115A,+1 317 274 0749,
> [mailto:mwood@mhw.ulib.iupui.edu] On Behalf Of Mark H. Wood
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:51 AM
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New to Apache
>
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:58:23PM -0400, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
>> Tony Fountain wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
>>>
>> No you didn't. You hit reply to an old message deleted the content and
>>
>
>
>> changed the subject. Please don't do this.
>>
>
> Possibly he's an innocent victim of today's over-helpful MUAs. If I'd
> never seen or been told about the Message-ID:, In-Reply-To:, and
> References: headers, I'd think that the above actions had wiped out all
> traces of the previous thread, and I would think I'm being efficient by
> letting the MUA copy the list address for me instead of typing it
> myself.
>
> Authors of gooey MUAs would do well to support listmail better by, for
> example, providing a button to "send new message to the list that
> reflected this message", or enabling the association of a folder with an
> address and providing a button for "send to this folder's associated
> address".
>
>
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RE: New to Apache
Posted by Tony Fountain <tf...@benefitconcepts.com>.
Yes, I did do that - it was just a simple way to obtain the email
address. I'll be careful not to do this again as I was unaware of this.
Thanks,
Tony Fountain
Benefit Concepts, Inc.
(419) 244-9936 x9010 (office)
(419) 249-7221 (fax)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark H. Wood,UL 0115A,+1 317 274 0749,
[mailto:mwood@mhw.ulib.iupui.edu] On Behalf Of Mark H. Wood
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:51 AM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: New to Apache
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:58:23PM -0400, Mark Thomas wrote:
> Tony Fountain wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
>
> No you didn't. You hit reply to an old message deleted the content and
> changed the subject. Please don't do this.
Possibly he's an innocent victim of today's over-helpful MUAs. If I'd
never seen or been told about the Message-ID:, In-Reply-To:, and
References: headers, I'd think that the above actions had wiped out all
traces of the previous thread, and I would think I'm being efficient by
letting the MUA copy the list address for me instead of typing it
myself.
Authors of gooey MUAs would do well to support listmail better by, for
example, providing a button to "send new message to the list that
reflected this message", or enabling the association of a folder with an
address and providing a button for "send to this folder's associated
address".
--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Typically when a software vendor says that a product is "intuitive" he
means the exact opposite.
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Re: New to Apache
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:58:23PM -0400, Mark Thomas wrote:
> Tony Fountain wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
>
> No you didn't. You hit reply to an old message deleted the content and
> changed the subject. Please don't do this.
Possibly he's an innocent victim of today's over-helpful MUAs. If I'd
never seen or been told about the Message-ID:, In-Reply-To:, and
References: headers, I'd think that the above actions had wiped out
all traces of the previous thread, and I would think I'm being
efficient by letting the MUA copy the list address for me instead of
typing it myself.
Authors of gooey MUAs would do well to support listmail better by, for
example, providing a button to "send new message to the list that
reflected this message", or enabling the association of a folder with
an address and providing a button for "send to this folder's
associated address".
--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Typically when a software vendor says that a product is "intuitive" he
means the exact opposite.
Re: New to Apache
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Tony Fountain wrote:
> Mark,
>
> I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
No you didn't. You hit reply to an old message deleted the content and
changed the subject. Please don't do this.
Mark
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RE: New to Apache
Posted by Charlie Wingate <cw...@valco-data.com>.
Hi Tony,
I am not sure where at the website you can find documentation
but I use Win2k3 and Tomcat 5.5 and have found that the Native runtime
library for W2k3 gives a big performance boost. The file is
tcnative-1.dll and I think the latest version is 1.1.9.0; Google it and
you should be able to find a download location.
As for performance measurements and methodologies I am at a loss
but looking into that myself soon.
~Charlie
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking with which we created them.
- Albert Einstein
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Fountain [mailto:tfountain@benefitconcepts.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:01 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: New to Apache
Mark,
I did not hijack a thread. I started this one myself.
Thanks,
Tony Fountain
Benefit Concepts, Inc.
(419) 244-9936 x9010 (office)
(419) 249-7221 (fax)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:markt@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:23 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: New to Apache
Please don't hi-jack threads.
Mark
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