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The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Hi,
I list all lisences of the libraries used in mersmp, except db2
drivers, hibernate related libraries, all the libraries are coincided with
apache lisences. In the next version, one option is to remove all the
database related features from mersmp, instead, we will add some database
add-on functions to make it more customizable, the other option is to use
embed database like derby and replace hibernate.
Here is the list of the libraries used in mersmp:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tsrUaka3y1Z1OpsT8sgeZeg&output=html
--
Best regards
James Xu
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by James Xu <me...@gmail.com>.
thank you Kevin, I will do it later~~~
2009/9/9 Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>
> hi, James：
> a good start but i guess it's better if you post it as an independent
> post. i hope future version of RealClass would be web-based so that it
> could
> be integrated into MERSMP. I belive it would be more powerful and easy to
> deploy for BlueSky in the future.
> regards,
> Kevin
>
> 2009/9/8 James Xu <me...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi Bernd,
> >
> > First I will introduce myself , I am James, one developer of mersmp
> > team who take charge of the designation and development of the whole
> > mersmp.
> >
> > Second, I will introduce MERSMP system. MERSMP is short for massive
> > e-learning resource sharing and management platform. The main purpose of
> > mersmp is to supply a platform which all kinds of e-learning resources
> like
> > coursewares would be exchanged and shared between teachers and students.
> As
> > an advanced feature, it is also a platform for teachers and students
> > communicate with each other. it is a relative standalone platform that
> can
> > work without Realcass, but as two main parts of bluesky system, they can
> > work together as an e-learning solution, realclass plays the role in
> real
> > time classes between teachers and students, while the mersmp supplies
> them
> > the ways to share resources and communication after real time classes.
> >
> > MERSMP is developed using java technology and runs as an website but
> > more than a website. we learn the ideas from facebook develop platform
> and
> > mashup sytems. it is more like a platform on which developers can make
> > third party widgets and applications related to certain resources from
> > different places, after publishing these widgets and applicaitons to the
> > end users, teachers and students can share and manage resources through
> > mersmp platform.
> >
> > MERSMP is consisted of three parts: first, system platform, on which
> > administrators can configure the security realms and take charge of
> > authentication and authorization of the whole platform; second, develop
> > platform, which supplies APIs, tools for developers to integrate their
> > third
> > party widgets and applications with MERSMP system; third, user interface,
> > which can be customized to end users with the resource oriented
> > applications.
> >
> > Finally, I should say sorry for late participating in the discussion
> > of the bluesky mailing list. It is really not a wise way to incubate
> MERSMP
> > without the instructions and helps in the community. I wish today's brief
> > introduction and overview of MERSMP can be a start in bluesky community.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/9/2 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> >
> > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 15:02, Samuel Kevin<lo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > yeah, RealClass and MERSMP could work seperately. RealClass manages
> > > remote
> > > > teaching and courseware recording etc. And to my understanding,
> > > > MERSMP supplies a platform which all kinds of resources like
> courseware
> > > > could be shared and exchanged between teachers. Combined with a
> > website,
> > > it
> > > > is also a platform for teachers and students to communicate with each
> > > other,
> > > > like a forum.
> > > > If RealClass going to make a Apache release today, it can work
> > without
> > > > MERSMP.
> > > > regards,
> > > > Kevin
> > >
> > > Thanks, that's good.
> > >
> > > Bernd
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> > James Xu
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
> Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
> http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
>
--
Best regards
James Xu
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>.
hi, James：
a good start but i guess it's better if you post it as an independent
post. i hope future version of RealClass would be web-based so that it could
be integrated into MERSMP. I belive it would be more powerful and easy to
deploy for BlueSky in the future.
regards,
Kevin
2009/9/8 James Xu <me...@gmail.com>
> Hi Bernd,
>
> First I will introduce myself , I am James, one developer of mersmp
> team who take charge of the designation and development of the whole
> mersmp.
>
> Second, I will introduce MERSMP system. MERSMP is short for massive
> e-learning resource sharing and management platform. The main purpose of
> mersmp is to supply a platform which all kinds of e-learning resources like
> coursewares would be exchanged and shared between teachers and students. As
> an advanced feature, it is also a platform for teachers and students
> communicate with each other. it is a relative standalone platform that can
> work without Realcass, but as two main parts of bluesky system, they can
> work together as an e-learning solution, realclass plays the role in real
> time classes between teachers and students, while the mersmp supplies them
> the ways to share resources and communication after real time classes.
>
> MERSMP is developed using java technology and runs as an website but
> more than a website. we learn the ideas from facebook develop platform and
> mashup sytems. it is more like a platform on which developers can make
> third party widgets and applications related to certain resources from
> different places, after publishing these widgets and applicaitons to the
> end users, teachers and students can share and manage resources through
> mersmp platform.
>
> MERSMP is consisted of three parts: first, system platform, on which
> administrators can configure the security realms and take charge of
> authentication and authorization of the whole platform; second, develop
> platform, which supplies APIs, tools for developers to integrate their
> third
> party widgets and applications with MERSMP system; third, user interface,
> which can be customized to end users with the resource oriented
> applications.
>
> Finally, I should say sorry for late participating in the discussion
> of the bluesky mailing list. It is really not a wise way to incubate MERSMP
> without the instructions and helps in the community. I wish today's brief
> introduction and overview of MERSMP can be a start in bluesky community.
>
>
>
> 2009/9/2 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
>
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 15:02, Samuel Kevin<lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > yeah, RealClass and MERSMP could work seperately. RealClass manages
> > remote
> > > teaching and courseware recording etc. And to my understanding,
> > > MERSMP supplies a platform which all kinds of resources like courseware
> > > could be shared and exchanged between teachers. Combined with a
> website,
> > it
> > > is also a platform for teachers and students to communicate with each
> > other,
> > > like a forum.
> > > If RealClass going to make a Apache release today, it can work
> without
> > > MERSMP.
> > > regards,
> > > Kevin
> >
> > Thanks, that's good.
> >
> > Bernd
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards
> James Xu
>
--
Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by James Xu <me...@gmail.com>.
Hi Bernd,
First I will introduce myself , I am James, one developer of mersmp
team who take charge of the designation and development of the whole
mersmp.
Second, I will introduce MERSMP system. MERSMP is short for massive
e-learning resource sharing and management platform. The main purpose of
mersmp is to supply a platform which all kinds of e-learning resources like
coursewares would be exchanged and shared between teachers and students. As
an advanced feature, it is also a platform for teachers and students
communicate with each other. it is a relative standalone platform that can
work without Realcass, but as two main parts of bluesky system, they can
work together as an e-learning solution, realclass plays the role in real
time classes between teachers and students, while the mersmp supplies them
the ways to share resources and communication after real time classes.
MERSMP is developed using java technology and runs as an website but
more than a website. we learn the ideas from facebook develop platform and
mashup sytems. it is more like a platform on which developers can make
third party widgets and applications related to certain resources from
different places, after publishing these widgets and applicaitons to the
end users, teachers and students can share and manage resources through
mersmp platform.
MERSMP is consisted of three parts: first, system platform, on which
administrators can configure the security realms and take charge of
authentication and authorization of the whole platform; second, develop
platform, which supplies APIs, tools for developers to integrate their third
party widgets and applications with MERSMP system; third, user interface,
which can be customized to end users with the resource oriented
applications.
Finally, I should say sorry for late participating in the discussion
of the bluesky mailing list. It is really not a wise way to incubate MERSMP
without the instructions and helps in the community. I wish today's brief
introduction and overview of MERSMP can be a start in bluesky community.
2009/9/2 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 15:02, Samuel Kevin<lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > yeah, RealClass and MERSMP could work seperately. RealClass manages
> remote
> > teaching and courseware recording etc. And to my understanding,
> > MERSMP supplies a platform which all kinds of resources like courseware
> > could be shared and exchanged between teachers. Combined with a website,
> it
> > is also a platform for teachers and students to communicate with each
> other,
> > like a forum.
> > If RealClass going to make a Apache release today, it can work without
> > MERSMP.
> > regards,
> > Kevin
>
> Thanks, that's good.
>
> Bernd
>
--
Best regards
James Xu
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 15:02, Samuel Kevin<lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, RealClass and MERSMP could work seperately. RealClass manages remote
> teaching and courseware recording etc. And to my understanding,
> MERSMP supplies a platform which all kinds of resources like courseware
> could be shared and exchanged between teachers. Combined with a website, it
> is also a platform for teachers and students to communicate with each other,
> like a forum.
> If RealClass going to make a Apache release today, it can work without
> MERSMP.
> regards,
> Kevin
Thanks, that's good.
Bernd
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>.
yeah, RealClass and MERSMP could work seperately. RealClass manages remote
teaching and courseware recording etc. And to my understanding,
MERSMP supplies a platform which all kinds of resources like courseware
could be shared and exchanged between teachers. Combined with a website, it
is also a platform for teachers and students to communicate with each other,
like a forum.
If RealClass going to make a Apache release today, it can work without
MERSMP.
regards,
Kevin
2009/9/2 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> 2009/9/1 Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>:
> > hi Bernd:
> > like i've said ,BlueSky is consisted of two sub-systems. RealClass
> > system and MERSMP system. I am a member of RealClass team. RealClass team
> > has been working since the day we enter the incubation and gradually
> > understand how podling works, though that may still far below the
> > anticipation of Apache community. Mistakes, though we probably will make.
> > But recently, i believe we are on the way. As to the core team of
> > RealClass, we have a relative clear concept of where RealClass goes in
> the
> > future.
> > And to the MERSMP team, it seems they don't consider fostering a
> > community as the first priority. Instead, they devote themselves into the
> > revolving of MERSMP system rather than talking about their system on dev
> > mailing list. It's absolutely unacceptable, right? But you know it's how
> > hard to persuade a programmer that he can't save the world........ God
> > bless they finally realize what they had done can't help the forwarding
> of
> > incubation. Thus they join the discussion recently. i hope they could
> > progress faster since we had already on the verge of failure-_-!. i hope
> > MERSMP team could act faster rather than an better explaination. thanks.
> > regards,
> > Kevin
>
> Thanks Kevin. Now I understand much better.
>
> How do RealClass and MERSMP depend on each other?
> For example, if RealClass would be able to make an Apache release
> today would it work at all without MERSMP?
>
> Bernd
>
--
Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
2009/9/1 Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>:
> hi Bernd:
> like i've said ,BlueSky is consisted of two sub-systems. RealClass
> system and MERSMP system. I am a member of RealClass team. RealClass team
> has been working since the day we enter the incubation and gradually
> understand how podling works, though that may still far below the
> anticipation of Apache community. Mistakes, though we probably will make.
> But recently, i believe we are on the way. As to the core team of
> RealClass, we have a relative clear concept of where RealClass goes in the
> future.
> And to the MERSMP team, it seems they don't consider fostering a
> community as the first priority. Instead, they devote themselves into the
> revolving of MERSMP system rather than talking about their system on dev
> mailing list. It's absolutely unacceptable, right? But you know it's how
> hard to persuade a programmer that he can't save the world........ God
> bless they finally realize what they had done can't help the forwarding of
> incubation. Thus they join the discussion recently. i hope they could
> progress faster since we had already on the verge of failure-_-!. i hope
> MERSMP team could act faster rather than an better explaination. thanks.
> regards,
> Kevin
Thanks Kevin. Now I understand much better.
How do RealClass and MERSMP depend on each other?
For example, if RealClass would be able to make an Apache release
today would it work at all without MERSMP?
Bernd
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>.
hi Bernd:
like i've said ,BlueSky is consisted of two sub-systems. RealClass
system and MERSMP system. I am a member of RealClass team. RealClass team
has been working since the day we enter the incubation and gradually
understand how podling works, though that may still far below the
anticipation of Apache community. Mistakes, though we probably will make.
But recently, i believe we are on the way. As to the core team of
RealClass, we have a relative clear concept of where RealClass goes in the
future.
And to the MERSMP team, it seems they don't consider fostering a
community as the first priority. Instead, they devote themselves into the
revolving of MERSMP system rather than talking about their system on dev
mailing list. It's absolutely unacceptable, right? But you know it's how
hard to persuade a programmer that he can't save the world........ God
bless they finally realize what they had done can't help the forwarding of
incubation. Thus they join the discussion recently. i hope they could
progress faster since we had already on the verge of failure-_-!. i hope
MERSMP team could act faster rather than an better explaination. thanks.
regards,
Kevin
2009/9/1 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> 2009/9/1 Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>:
> > hi, Bernd:
> > Actually, BlueSky is consisted of two sub-systems- RealClass and
> > MERSMP. RealClass is used to live broadcast、courseware recording
> > etc. And MERSMP is in charge of courseware resource management、sharing
> and
> > exchanging etc. i guess it's kind of late to join, however, without too
> many
> > legal trouble, i believe MERSMP could catch up.
> > regards,
> > Kevin
>
> ok then, could you please give a high-level overview of Bluesky and
> who is developing what?
> I'm confused. You still are by far not open enough about your project.
> What new team and subproject will you be coming up with tommorrow?
>
> Bernd
>
> >
> > 2009/8/31 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> >
> >> How is this mersmp thingy relevant to the bluesky project and this
> mailing
> >> list?
> >>
> >> If you just want to market your software, please go away.
> >>
> >> Bernd
> >>
> >> (Anyone out there who has ever read a Kafka book and can tell me how
> >> bluesky is different from his stories? Thanks.)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:16, James Xu<me...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I list all lisences of the libraries used in mersmp, except db2
> >> > drivers, hibernate related libraries, all the libraries are coincided
> >> with
> >> > apache lisences. In the next version, one option is to remove all the
> >> > database related features from mersmp, instead, we will add some
> database
> >> > add-on functions to make it more customizable, the other option is to
> use
> >> > embed database like derby and replace hibernate.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the list of the libraries used in mersmp:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tsrUaka3y1Z1OpsT8sgeZeg&output=html
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best regards
> >> > James Xu
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
> > Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
> > http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
> >
>
--
Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
2009/9/1 Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>:
> hi, Bernd:
> Actually, BlueSky is consisted of two sub-systems- RealClass and
> MERSMP. RealClass is used to live broadcast、courseware recording
> etc. And MERSMP is in charge of courseware resource management、sharing and
> exchanging etc. i guess it's kind of late to join, however, without too many
> legal trouble, i believe MERSMP could catch up.
> regards,
> Kevin
ok then, could you please give a high-level overview of Bluesky and
who is developing what?
I'm confused. You still are by far not open enough about your project.
What new team and subproject will you be coming up with tommorrow?
Bernd
>
> 2009/8/31 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
>
>> How is this mersmp thingy relevant to the bluesky project and this mailing
>> list?
>>
>> If you just want to market your software, please go away.
>>
>> Bernd
>>
>> (Anyone out there who has ever read a Kafka book and can tell me how
>> bluesky is different from his stories? Thanks.)
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:16, James Xu<me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I list all lisences of the libraries used in mersmp, except db2
>> > drivers, hibernate related libraries, all the libraries are coincided
>> with
>> > apache lisences. In the next version, one option is to remove all the
>> > database related features from mersmp, instead, we will add some database
>> > add-on functions to make it more customizable, the other option is to use
>> > embed database like derby and replace hibernate.
>> >
>> > Here is the list of the libraries used in mersmp:
>> >
>> >
>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tsrUaka3y1Z1OpsT8sgeZeg&output=html
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards
>> > James Xu
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
> Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
> http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
>
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Samuel Kevin <lo...@gmail.com>.
hi, Bernd:
Actually, BlueSky is consisted of two sub-systems- RealClass and
MERSMP. RealClass is used to live broadcast、courseware recording
etc. And MERSMP is in charge of courseware resource management、sharing and
exchanging etc. i guess it's kind of late to join, however, without too many
legal trouble, i believe MERSMP could catch up.
regards,
Kevin
2009/8/31 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> How is this mersmp thingy relevant to the bluesky project and this mailing
> list?
>
> If you just want to market your software, please go away.
>
> Bernd
>
> (Anyone out there who has ever read a Kafka book and can tell me how
> bluesky is different from his stories? Thanks.)
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:16, James Xu<me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I list all lisences of the libraries used in mersmp, except db2
> > drivers, hibernate related libraries, all the libraries are coincided
> with
> > apache lisences. In the next version, one option is to remove all the
> > database related features from mersmp, instead, we will add some database
> > add-on functions to make it more customizable, the other option is to use
> > embed database like derby and replace hibernate.
> >
> > Here is the list of the libraries used in mersmp:
> >
> >
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tsrUaka3y1Z1OpsT8sgeZeg&output=html
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> > James Xu
> >
>
--
Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by James Xu <me...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Bernd:
I am so sorry for join in bluesky mail list so late, I should
introduce myself first, I am one member of the bluesky mersmp team in
China.
Mersmp is the sub-project of the whole bluesky project, it is short
for massive resources of sharing and management platform and from the
following url: http://incubator.apache.org/bluesky/files/html/MERSMP.html,
you can get its relationship with Bluesky and also get some other
information of mersmp.
Mersmp faded out the discussion of mailing in the past, because we
have lots of problems to solve with the original version of mersmp to make
it can compatible with the requirement of apache.
I think there are still lots of problems in mersmp, I really wish you
and other mentors and developers in the community to help us to solve them.
Thank you.
2009/8/31 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
> How is this mersmp thingy relevant to the bluesky project and this mailing
> list?
>
> If you just want to market your software, please go away.
>
> Bernd
>
> (Anyone out there who has ever read a Kafka book and can tell me how
> bluesky is different from his stories? Thanks.)
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:16, James Xu<me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I list all lisences of the libraries used in mersmp, except db2
> > drivers, hibernate related libraries, all the libraries are coincided
> with
> > apache lisences. In the next version, one option is to remove all the
> > database related features from mersmp, instead, we will add some database
> > add-on functions to make it more customizable, the other option is to use
> > embed database like derby and replace hibernate.
> >
> > Here is the list of the libraries used in mersmp:
> >
> >
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tsrUaka3y1Z1OpsT8sgeZeg&output=html
> >
> > --
> > Best regards
> > James Xu
> >
>
--
Best regards
James Xu,
Re: The lisences of libraries used in mersmp
Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
How is this mersmp thingy relevant to the bluesky project and this mailing list?
If you just want to market your software, please go away.
Bernd
(Anyone out there who has ever read a Kafka book and can tell me how
bluesky is different from his stories? Thanks.)
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:16, James Xu<me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I list all lisences of the libraries used in mersmp, except db2
> drivers, hibernate related libraries, all the libraries are coincided with
> apache lisences. In the next version, one option is to remove all the
> database related features from mersmp, instead, we will add some database
> add-on functions to make it more customizable, the other option is to use
> embed database like derby and replace hibernate.
>
> Here is the list of the libraries used in mersmp:
>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tsrUaka3y1Z1OpsT8sgeZeg&output=html
>
> --
> Best regards
> James Xu
>