Roadmap discussion

[Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>]

I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release 1.1 a
year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done and what I
think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is useful to
maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want to work
on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community can spot
(or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.

Simon

[1]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion

Re: Roadmap discussion

[Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>]

Similar to what we did with Web 2.0 and Spring, I believe we should
discuss the roadmap items before adding to the wiki, otherwise, if
someone just go and add it, it will probably not get noticed by the
whole community. Once the roadmap is discussed, it's more like a place
for others from the community to come and check what's planned and
it's status.

I think the website is more well organized, and would bring more
visibility to the Roadmap.

Also, from checking the change history on the current one, every
single person that changed the roadmap have access to the website.


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:04 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wouldn't the wiki page be easier to add to by all? Should this page be
> advertised to users to also provide input?
> Can you please add the link to the web20 roadmap to the page? Maybe under
> bindings?
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think this should be moved to website, linked from the left panels,
>> and include the web 2.0 roadmap already available there.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > First, thanks Simon for updating the road map page and make it current.
>> >
>> > I modified the  road map page[1] and added the following:
>> > 1. Made this a Java SCA Roadmap page (since it is only that at this
>> > moment)
>> > and added a table of content to make it more readable
>> > 2. Categorized the items on this page. This will make it easier for
>> > people
>> > who are interested in specific areas to find items to work on. This is a
>> > starting point, please feel free to fine tune the categories.
>> >
>> > 2 questions:
>> >
>> > 1) I am assuming that this email thread is suggesting to keep this page
>> > current. Yes?
>> > If yes, It is a good idea to link to this page  from a couple of places
>> > including the dashboard and get involved page. I can make these updates,
>> > but I am hesitant to do this if the road map page is not going to be
>> > kept up
>> > to date.
>> >
>> > 2) If this is a page that Tuscany developers will actively look at,
>> > should
>> > it be sent to users to see if they have ideas to add to it?
>> >
>> > Haleh
>> >
>> > [1]:
>> >
>> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Giorgio Zoppi
>> >> <gi...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 2008/10/12 Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>:
>> >>> > I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release
>> >>> > 1.1
>> >>> > a
>> >>> > year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > what I
>> >>> > think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is
>> >>> > useful
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > work
>> >>> > on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community
>> >>> > can
>> >>> > spot
>> >>> > (or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Simon,
>> >>> it will be nice have interoperability in the long period. I tried two
>> >>> months ago but
>> >>> i needed an hackished version of my wdsl parser.
>> >>> It should be more easy using the sca wdsl with a so what X language
>> >>> (replace X with
>> >>> java, Python, C++, ecc).
>> >>> Ciao,
>> >>> Giorgio.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta
>> >>> para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
>> >>> "Favola -Moda".
>> >>
>> >> Hi Girogio
>> >>
>> >> That's an excellent point. We haven't done that much work on iterop and
>> >> it's something we should be good at, i.e. if we are modeling an SOA
>> >> with SCA
>> >> then there is a good chance many parts of it will not be implemented by
>> >> SCA.
>> >> Go ahead and add it to the list.
>> >>
>> >> Simon
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Resende
>> Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
>



-- 
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Re: Roadmap discussion

[haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>]

Wouldn't the wiki page be easier to add to by all? Should this page be
advertised to users to also provide input?

Can you please add the link to the web20 roadmap to the page? Maybe under
bindings?

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I think this should be moved to website, linked from the left panels,
> and include the web 2.0 roadmap already available there.
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > First, thanks Simon for updating the road map page and make it current.
> >
> > I modified the  road map page[1] and added the following:
> > 1. Made this a Java SCA Roadmap page (since it is only that at this
> moment)
> > and added a table of content to make it more readable
> > 2. Categorized the items on this page. This will make it easier for
> people
> > who are interested in specific areas to find items to work on. This is a
> > starting point, please feel free to fine tune the categories.
> >
> > 2 questions:
> >
> > 1) I am assuming that this email thread is suggesting to keep this page
> > current. Yes?
> > If yes, It is a good idea to link to this page  from a couple of places
> > including the dashboard and get involved page. I can make these updates,
> > but I am hesitant to do this if the road map page is not going to be kept
> up
> > to date.
> >
> > 2) If this is a page that Tuscany developers will actively look at,
> should
> > it be sent to users to see if they have ideas to add to it?
> >
> > Haleh
> >
> > [1]:
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Giorgio Zoppi <
> giorgio.zoppi@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2008/10/12 Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>:
> >>> > I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release
> 1.1
> >>> > a
> >>> > year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done and
> >>> > what I
> >>> > think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is
> useful
> >>> > to
> >>> > maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want to
> >>> > work
> >>> > on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community
> can
> >>> > spot
> >>> > (or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Simon,
> >>> it will be nice have interoperability in the long period. I tried two
> >>> months ago but
> >>> i needed an hackished version of my wdsl parser.
> >>> It should be more easy using the sca wdsl with a so what X language
> >>> (replace X with
> >>> java, Python, C++, ecc).
> >>> Ciao,
> >>> Giorgio.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta
> >>> para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
> >>> "Favola -Moda".
> >>
> >> Hi Girogio
> >>
> >> That's an excellent point. We haven't done that much work on iterop and
> >> it's something we should be good at, i.e. if we are modeling an SOA with
> SCA
> >> then there is a good chance many parts of it will not be implemented by
> SCA.
> >> Go ahead and add it to the list.
> >>
> >> Simon
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>

Re: Roadmap discussion

[Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>]

I think this should be moved to website, linked from the left panels,
and include the web 2.0 roadmap already available there.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:16 AM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> First, thanks Simon for updating the road map page and make it current.
>
> I modified the  road map page[1] and added the following:
> 1. Made this a Java SCA Roadmap page (since it is only that at this moment)
> and added a table of content to make it more readable
> 2. Categorized the items on this page. This will make it easier for people
> who are interested in specific areas to find items to work on. This is a
> starting point, please feel free to fine tune the categories.
>
> 2 questions:
>
> 1) I am assuming that this email thread is suggesting to keep this page
> current. Yes?
> If yes, It is a good idea to link to this page  from a couple of places
> including the dashboard and get involved page. I can make these updates,
> but I am hesitant to do this if the road map page is not going to be kept up
> to date.
>
> 2) If this is a page that Tuscany developers will actively look at, should
> it be sent to users to see if they have ideas to add to it?
>
> Haleh
>
> [1]:
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2008/10/12 Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>:
>>> > I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release 1.1
>>> > a
>>> > year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done and
>>> > what I
>>> > think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is useful
>>> > to
>>> > maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want to
>>> > work
>>> > on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community can
>>> > spot
>>> > (or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon,
>>> it will be nice have interoperability in the long period. I tried two
>>> months ago but
>>> i needed an hackished version of my wdsl parser.
>>> It should be more easy using the sca wdsl with a so what X language
>>> (replace X with
>>> java, Python, C++, ecc).
>>> Ciao,
>>> Giorgio.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta
>>> para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
>>> "Favola -Moda".
>>
>> Hi Girogio
>>
>> That's an excellent point. We haven't done that much work on iterop and
>> it's something we should be good at, i.e. if we are modeling an SOA with SCA
>> then there is a good chance many parts of it will not be implemented by SCA.
>> Go ahead and add it to the list.
>>
>> Simon
>
>



-- 
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Re: Roadmap discussion

[haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>]

Hi,
First, thanks Simon for updating the road map page and make it current.

I modified the  road map page[1] and added the following:
1. Made this a Java SCA Roadmap page (since it is only that at this moment)
and added a table of content to make it more readable
2. Categorized the items on this page. This will make it easier for people
who are interested in specific areas to find items to work on. This is a
starting point, please feel free to fine tune the categories.

2 questions:

1) I am assuming that this email thread is suggesting to keep this page
current. Yes?
If yes, It is a good idea to link to this page  from a couple of places
including the dashboard and get involved page. I can make these updates,
but I am hesitant to do this if the road map page is not going to be kept up
to date.

2) If this is a page that Tuscany developers will actively look at, should
it be sent to users to see if they have ideas to add to it?

Haleh

[1]:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion


On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> 2008/10/12 Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>:
>> > I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release 1.1 a
>> > year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done and
>> what I
>> > think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is useful
>> to
>> > maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want to
>> work
>> > on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community can
>> spot
>> > (or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.
>>
>>
>> Simon,
>> it will be nice have interoperability in the long period. I tried two
>> months ago but
>> i needed an hackished version of my wdsl parser.
>> It should be more easy using the sca wdsl with a so what X language
>> (replace X with
>> java, Python, C++, ecc).
>> Ciao,
>> Giorgio.
>>
>> --
>> Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta
>> para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
>> "Favola -Moda".
>>
>
> Hi Girogio
>
> That's an excellent point. We haven't done that much work on iterop and
> it's something we should be good at, i.e. if we are modeling an SOA with SCA
> then there is a good chance many parts of it will not be implemented by SCA.
> Go ahead and add it to the list.
>
> Simon
>

Re: Roadmap discussion

[Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> 2008/10/12 Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>:
> > I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release 1.1 a
> > year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done and
> what I
> > think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is useful
> to
> > maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want to
> work
> > on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community can
> spot
> > (or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.
>
>
> Simon,
> it will be nice have interoperability in the long period. I tried two
> months ago but
> i needed an hackished version of my wdsl parser.
> It should be more easy using the sca wdsl with a so what X language
> (replace X with
> java, Python, C++, ecc).
> Ciao,
> Giorgio.
>
> --
> Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta
> para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
> "Favola -Moda".
>

Hi Girogio

That's an excellent point. We haven't done that much work on iterop and it's
something we should be good at, i.e. if we are modeling an SOA with SCA then
there is a good chance many parts of it will not be implemented by SCA. Go
ahead and add it to the list.

Simon

Re: Roadmap discussion

[Giorgio Zoppi <gi...@gmail.com>]

2008/10/12 Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>:
> I tripped over the roadmap page we used when talking about release 1.1 a
> year ago [1]. I've updated it based on what I think has been done and what I
> think is going on now. Is this accurate? Do people think this is useful to
> maintain in terms of capturing the main themes of what people want to work
> on now and in the future? I'd like to think anyone in the community can spot
> (or add) items they are interested in here and get involved.


Simon,
it will be nice have interoperability in the long period. I tried two
months ago but
i needed an hackished version of my wdsl parser.
It should be more easy using the sca wdsl with a so what X language
(replace X with
java, Python, C++, ecc).
Ciao,
Giorgio.

-- 
Quiero ser el rayo de sol que cada día te despierta
para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
"Favola -Moda".