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Posted to cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org by Philemon Siclone <ph...@yahoo.fr> on 2004/08/18 14:53:37 UTC
How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Hi,
The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on the
server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At the
moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed on
the client-side (obviously).
It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer on
the cactus-website.
Regards,
(and sorry for my bad english)
Phil
PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does it.
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Fixing the doco and more... (was RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures")
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
Hi Lee,
Thats really cool. I like it when people act positively and this is really
what open source is about. Let me know what you need and I'll do my best to
help you.
Thanks
-Vincent
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Chalupa [mailto:lchalupa@seelink.org]
> Sent: dimanche 22 août 2004 11:43
> To: Cactus Users List
> Subject: RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
>
> Ok. First, we need to come up with
> a better business model: one that works for you and others like yourself.
> What's the long term value of burning your most important people out? If
> we
> can't find a better balance in this "exchange of value" it's just a matter
> of
> time before it's dead. I'll give this some more thought starting with
> some
> attributes of the typical Cactus user. I for one would
> gladly pay some amount of money for responsive and useful support
> especially
> when I'm using the product in my development process.
>
> I'll put off my evaluation of the commercial product I'm looking at and
> put that
> effort into Cactus.
>
> Second, I'll help fix the documentation and work on providing other self
> help
> alternatives. A wiki might be part of the answer, I'd like to do some more
> analysis to better understand the problem.
>
> First things first. I need help getting the product installed. I'll start
> again
> and post my progress and questions on the mailing list.
>
> I look forward to working with you.
>
> lee
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>:
>
> > Hi Lee,
> >
> > Thanks for the effort in awakening me. However, I don't think I need a
> wake
> > up call. What I need is help. Help from others. I have been working on
> > Cactus for more than 4 years now and I'm also participating to more and
> more
> > other open source products. I have always encouraged very positively any
> > help.
> >
> > If you want to help (or anyone else for that matter), instead of saying
> how
> > to do X, Y, Z, point to where the documentation has flaws (and it has a
> > lot). Even better, once you understand how it works, help fix the
> > documentation! Do you know how many persons have submitted documentation
> > patches over the past 4 years? (I'd say under 10).
> >
> > What you may not understand is that I don't care if you don't use
> Cactus.
> > It's your choice. If you have found another tool that is better and/or
> that
> > suits what you try to do better, then all the best! I'm not selling
> > anything.
> >
> > I have personally created and used Cactus in the period 1998-2000 and
> since
> > then I have never used it. However, I've tried not to let anyone down
> and
> > I've continued to support it by answering to emails (I'm almost the only
> one
> > doing so BTW), fix bugs, and make some headway (albeit slowly as I have
> some
> > problems in working more than 18 hours per day). Several times I wanted
> to
> > stop but people kept coming and telling me that they liked it. So in
> > deference to them, I've continued the work as much as I could.
> >
> > Whining almost never helps in open source. Helping does. You can help in
> > several ways: answer to emails on the mailing list, help improve the
> > documentation, fix one of the 30 or so outstanding bugs/feature
> requests,
> > find some persons interested in helping, etc. If at least you were
> providing
> > a solution... And there are solution. One of them that I have been
> > contemplating for some time, is to move the Cactus doco to a Wiki so
> that it
> > lowers the bar of improving the documentation. But making the move is a
> big
> > task in itself and so far all the wikis I've seen were less good in
> feature
> > than the current site. Confluence is my current preferred choice but I
> need
> > to find the time to make the move. BTW, if you're interested in helping
> I
> > can give you hints on how to make that move. That would help.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lee Chalupa [mailto:lchalupa@seelink.org]
> > > Sent: samedi 21 août 2004 17:16
> > > To: Cactus Users List
> > > Subject: RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> > >
> > > Vincent:
> > >
> > > I'm not trying to flame you or your associates Vincent but you need a
> > > wakup call
> > > when it comes to your documentation and the built-in complexity of
> your
> > > product. Your current approach just doesn't match your mission
> statement.
> > > Do
> > > you really expect new users to spend days of high levels of
> frustration to
> > > get
> > > your software installed? I might add that they are frustrating days
> too.
> > > It's
> > > ironic that a tool that promotes testing hasn't devised tests that
> would
> > > help a
> > > developer know if the software is deployed properly and if not,
> provide
> > > some
> > > kind of clue where the problem is. As an alternative to Cactus, I'm
> > > currently
> > > evaluating an inexpensive software tool that provides similar
> > > functionality to
> > > cactus. It wasn't my first choice. I can report that it deployed
> itself in
> > > about 20 minutes start to finish. Done! As for your documentation, I
> can
> > > cite
> > > many examples where the vagueness of your directions leaves enough
> room
> > > for
> > > interpretation to drive a truck through the holes all the while you
> state
> > > in
> > > your messages to users that you need to "follow the instructions
> exactly":
> > > my
> > > point is there is no exactly to your documentation.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know you and your associates are working hard and I commend you for
> your
> > > efforts. I have stopped short a number of times of giving you this
> > > feedback but
> > > in the end I don't think withholding feedback makes anything better.
> > > Please
> > > try to take my comments in the constructive manner that they were
> meant.
> > >
> > > The good news is that there would be a whold bunch more developers
> using
> > > your
> > > product if you can find a way to help them get started that doesn't
> "raise
> > > the
> > > bar" over their heads.
> > >
> > > Good Luck.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Phil,
> > > >
> > > > The following page
> > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it
> all
> > > too
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Vincent
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > > > > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > > > > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on
> the
> > > > > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run.
> At
> > > the
> > > > > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> > > > > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed
> on
> > > > > the client-side (obviously).
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer
> on
> > > > > the cactus-website.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > (and sorry for my bad english)
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE
> does
> > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Lee Chalupa <lc...@seelink.org>.
Ok. First, we need to come up with
a better business model: one that works for you and others like yourself.
What's the long term value of burning your most important people out? If we
can't find a better balance in this "exchange of value" it's just a matter of
time before it's dead. I'll give this some more thought starting with some
attributes of the typical Cactus user. I for one would
gladly pay some amount of money for responsive and useful support especially
when I'm using the product in my development process.
I'll put off my evaluation of the commercial product I'm looking at and put that
effort into Cactus.
Second, I'll help fix the documentation and work on providing other self help
alternatives. A wiki might be part of the answer, I'd like to do some more
analysis to better understand the problem.
First things first. I need help getting the product installed. I'll start again
and post my progress and questions on the mailing list.
I look forward to working with you.
lee
Quoting Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>:
> Hi Lee,
>
> Thanks for the effort in awakening me. However, I don't think I need a wake
> up call. What I need is help. Help from others. I have been working on
> Cactus for more than 4 years now and I'm also participating to more and more
> other open source products. I have always encouraged very positively any
> help.
>
> If you want to help (or anyone else for that matter), instead of saying how
> to do X, Y, Z, point to where the documentation has flaws (and it has a
> lot). Even better, once you understand how it works, help fix the
> documentation! Do you know how many persons have submitted documentation
> patches over the past 4 years? (I'd say under 10).
>
> What you may not understand is that I don't care if you don't use Cactus.
> It's your choice. If you have found another tool that is better and/or that
> suits what you try to do better, then all the best! I'm not selling
> anything.
>
> I have personally created and used Cactus in the period 1998-2000 and since
> then I have never used it. However, I've tried not to let anyone down and
> I've continued to support it by answering to emails (I'm almost the only one
> doing so BTW), fix bugs, and make some headway (albeit slowly as I have some
> problems in working more than 18 hours per day). Several times I wanted to
> stop but people kept coming and telling me that they liked it. So in
> deference to them, I've continued the work as much as I could.
>
> Whining almost never helps in open source. Helping does. You can help in
> several ways: answer to emails on the mailing list, help improve the
> documentation, fix one of the 30 or so outstanding bugs/feature requests,
> find some persons interested in helping, etc. If at least you were providing
> a solution... And there are solution. One of them that I have been
> contemplating for some time, is to move the Cactus doco to a Wiki so that it
> lowers the bar of improving the documentation. But making the move is a big
> task in itself and so far all the wikis I've seen were less good in feature
> than the current site. Confluence is my current preferred choice but I need
> to find the time to make the move. BTW, if you're interested in helping I
> can give you hints on how to make that move. That would help.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee Chalupa [mailto:lchalupa@seelink.org]
> > Sent: samedi 21 août 2004 17:16
> > To: Cactus Users List
> > Subject: RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> >
> > Vincent:
> >
> > I'm not trying to flame you or your associates Vincent but you need a
> > wakup call
> > when it comes to your documentation and the built-in complexity of your
> > product. Your current approach just doesn't match your mission statement.
> > Do
> > you really expect new users to spend days of high levels of frustration to
> > get
> > your software installed? I might add that they are frustrating days too.
> > It's
> > ironic that a tool that promotes testing hasn't devised tests that would
> > help a
> > developer know if the software is deployed properly and if not, provide
> > some
> > kind of clue where the problem is. As an alternative to Cactus, I'm
> > currently
> > evaluating an inexpensive software tool that provides similar
> > functionality to
> > cactus. It wasn't my first choice. I can report that it deployed itself in
> > about 20 minutes start to finish. Done! As for your documentation, I can
> > cite
> > many examples where the vagueness of your directions leaves enough room
> > for
> > interpretation to drive a truck through the holes all the while you state
> > in
> > your messages to users that you need to "follow the instructions exactly":
> > my
> > point is there is no exactly to your documentation.
> >
> >
> > I know you and your associates are working hard and I commend you for your
> > efforts. I have stopped short a number of times of giving you this
> > feedback but
> > in the end I don't think withholding feedback makes anything better.
> > Please
> > try to take my comments in the constructive manner that they were meant.
> >
> > The good news is that there would be a whold bunch more developers using
> > your
> > product if you can find a way to help them get started that doesn't "raise
> > the
> > bar" over their heads.
> >
> > Good Luck.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > Quoting Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>:
> >
> > > Hi Phil,
> > >
> > > The following page
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it all
> > too
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > > > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > > > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on the
> > > > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At
> > the
> > > > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> > > > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed on
> > > > the client-side (obviously).
> > > >
> > > > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer on
> > > > the cactus-website.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > (and sorry for my bad english)
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does
> > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
Hi Lee,
Thanks for the effort in awakening me. However, I don't think I need a wake
up call. What I need is help. Help from others. I have been working on
Cactus for more than 4 years now and I'm also participating to more and more
other open source products. I have always encouraged very positively any
help.
If you want to help (or anyone else for that matter), instead of saying how
to do X, Y, Z, point to where the documentation has flaws (and it has a
lot). Even better, once you understand how it works, help fix the
documentation! Do you know how many persons have submitted documentation
patches over the past 4 years? (I'd say under 10).
What you may not understand is that I don't care if you don't use Cactus.
It's your choice. If you have found another tool that is better and/or that
suits what you try to do better, then all the best! I'm not selling
anything.
I have personally created and used Cactus in the period 1998-2000 and since
then I have never used it. However, I've tried not to let anyone down and
I've continued to support it by answering to emails (I'm almost the only one
doing so BTW), fix bugs, and make some headway (albeit slowly as I have some
problems in working more than 18 hours per day). Several times I wanted to
stop but people kept coming and telling me that they liked it. So in
deference to them, I've continued the work as much as I could.
Whining almost never helps in open source. Helping does. You can help in
several ways: answer to emails on the mailing list, help improve the
documentation, fix one of the 30 or so outstanding bugs/feature requests,
find some persons interested in helping, etc. If at least you were providing
a solution... And there are solution. One of them that I have been
contemplating for some time, is to move the Cactus doco to a Wiki so that it
lowers the bar of improving the documentation. But making the move is a big
task in itself and so far all the wikis I've seen were less good in feature
than the current site. Confluence is my current preferred choice but I need
to find the time to make the move. BTW, if you're interested in helping I
can give you hints on how to make that move. That would help.
Thanks
-Vincent
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Chalupa [mailto:lchalupa@seelink.org]
> Sent: samedi 21 août 2004 17:16
> To: Cactus Users List
> Subject: RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
>
> Vincent:
>
> I'm not trying to flame you or your associates Vincent but you need a
> wakup call
> when it comes to your documentation and the built-in complexity of your
> product. Your current approach just doesn't match your mission statement.
> Do
> you really expect new users to spend days of high levels of frustration to
> get
> your software installed? I might add that they are frustrating days too.
> It's
> ironic that a tool that promotes testing hasn't devised tests that would
> help a
> developer know if the software is deployed properly and if not, provide
> some
> kind of clue where the problem is. As an alternative to Cactus, I'm
> currently
> evaluating an inexpensive software tool that provides similar
> functionality to
> cactus. It wasn't my first choice. I can report that it deployed itself in
> about 20 minutes start to finish. Done! As for your documentation, I can
> cite
> many examples where the vagueness of your directions leaves enough room
> for
> interpretation to drive a truck through the holes all the while you state
> in
> your messages to users that you need to "follow the instructions exactly":
> my
> point is there is no exactly to your documentation.
>
>
> I know you and your associates are working hard and I commend you for your
> efforts. I have stopped short a number of times of giving you this
> feedback but
> in the end I don't think withholding feedback makes anything better.
> Please
> try to take my comments in the constructive manner that they were meant.
>
> The good news is that there would be a whold bunch more developers using
> your
> product if you can find a way to help them get started that doesn't "raise
> the
> bar" over their heads.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Lee
>
>
> Quoting Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>:
>
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > The following page
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it all
> too
> > :-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on the
> > > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At
> the
> > > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> > > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed on
> > > the client-side (obviously).
> > >
> > > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer on
> > > the cactus-website.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > (and sorry for my bad english)
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does
> it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vous manquez despace pour stocker vos mails ?
> > > Yahoo! Mail vous offre GRATUITEMENT 100 Mo !
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RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Lee Chalupa <lc...@seelink.org>.
Vincent:
I'm not trying to flame you or your associates Vincent but you need a wakup call
when it comes to your documentation and the built-in complexity of your
product. Your current approach just doesn't match your mission statement. Do
you really expect new users to spend days of high levels of frustration to get
your software installed? I might add that they are frustrating days too. It's
ironic that a tool that promotes testing hasn't devised tests that would help a
developer know if the software is deployed properly and if not, provide some
kind of clue where the problem is. As an alternative to Cactus, I'm currently
evaluating an inexpensive software tool that provides similar functionality to
cactus. It wasn't my first choice. I can report that it deployed itself in
about 20 minutes start to finish. Done! As for your documentation, I can cite
many examples where the vagueness of your directions leaves enough room for
interpretation to drive a truck through the holes all the while you state in
your messages to users that you need to "follow the instructions exactly": my
point is there is no exactly to your documentation.
I know you and your associates are working hard and I commend you for your
efforts. I have stopped short a number of times of giving you this feedback but
in the end I don't think withholding feedback makes anything better. Please
try to take my comments in the constructive manner that they were meant.
The good news is that there would be a whold bunch more developers using your
product if you can find a way to help them get started that doesn't "raise the
bar" over their heads.
Good Luck.
Lee
Quoting Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>:
> Hi Phil,
>
> The following page
> http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it all too
> :-)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on the
> > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At the
> > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed on
> > the client-side (obviously).
> >
> > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer on
> > the cactus-website.
> >
> > Regards,
> > (and sorry for my bad english)
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does it.
> >
> >
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Re: Cactus, Ant and Eclipse? [Again]
Posted by Sebastian Wiehage <tr...@uni-muenster.de>.
Hi everybody!
Yes, the solution in Msg 5700 is working.
It should be said, that Eclipse 3.0 still
complains about classpath-Problems as you
can see under:
http://user.uni-muenster.de/exec/bigmail/nBIdMAJ8OjjRDx7l31pd50/CactusProb%2Ejpg
I was irritated by that Error-Msg, but
the Cactus-Task does work, same as the
other tasks.
So there seems to be a problem with
the Eclipse3.0-Ant-Plugin...
For those who encounter the same problem:
Try the Task although there are errors!
Even the automatic completion works.
Thanks for the help,
Sebastian
RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> Sent: lundi 23 août 2004 20:08
> To: Cactus Users List
> Subject: RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
>
> --- Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> a écrit :
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > More precisely the setUp()/teardown() methods will be executed on the
> > server
> > side (which is what you want) but I now understand that you want this
> > for a
> > set of Cactus Test Cases and not just for one test case. Is that
> > correct?
>
> Yes it is ! Sorry if it wasn't very clear.
>
> >
> > Then, why don't you create a MyServletTestCase class which has a
> > default
> > setUp()/teardown() and then have your tests extend MyServletTestCase,
> > ensuring they call super.setUp()/super.tearDown()?
> >
> > Another option is to create this common setup/teardown in a separate
> > helper
> > class and call them from your test classes.
> >
> > Would that do it for you?
> >
>
> Well, not really... because I do not only want these fixtures to be the
> same code, I also want them to be executed only once before and after
> each TestCase, like real testsuite-fixtures (and if I am right your
> solutions get them executed once before and after each test method).
Ah yes.
>
> The only solution I came up with is quite ugly :
> "
> public class CactusSuite extends TestCase
> {
> public static Test suite()
> {
> TestSuite suite = new TestSuite();
> suite.addTestSuite(TestSuiteSetUp.class);
> suite.addTestSuite(MyFirstTest.class);
> suite.addTestSuite(TestSuiteTearDown.class);
> return suite;
> }
> }
> "
> Where MyFirstTest is my real ServletTestCase; and TestSuiteSetup and
> TestSuiteTearDown are ServletTestCase that simulate fixtures.
Nice. I find this quite good actually.
>
> Maybe if I have got time I'll dive into the sources and try to write a
> true "ServerSideSuite".
>
Cool.
> Anyway, thanks a lot for your answers and for the cactus project,
>
[snip]
Thanks
-Vincent
RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Philemon Siclone <ph...@yahoo.fr>.
--- Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> a écrit :
> Hi Phil,
>
> More precisely the setUp()/teardown() methods will be executed on the
> server
> side (which is what you want) but I now understand that you want this
> for a
> set of Cactus Test Cases and not just for one test case. Is that
> correct?
Yes it is ! Sorry if it wasn't very clear.
>
> Then, why don't you create a MyServletTestCase class which has a
> default
> setUp()/teardown() and then have your tests extend MyServletTestCase,
> ensuring they call super.setUp()/super.tearDown()?
>
> Another option is to create this common setup/teardown in a separate
> helper
> class and call them from your test classes.
>
> Would that do it for you?
>
Well, not really... because I do not only want these fixtures to be the
same code, I also want them to be executed only once before and after
each TestCase, like real testsuite-fixtures (and if I am right your
solutions get them executed once before and after each test method).
The only solution I came up with is quite ugly :
"
public class CactusSuite extends TestCase
{
public static Test suite()
{
TestSuite suite = new TestSuite();
suite.addTestSuite(TestSuiteSetUp.class);
suite.addTestSuite(MyFirstTest.class);
suite.addTestSuite(TestSuiteTearDown.class);
return suite;
}
}
"
Where MyFirstTest is my real ServletTestCase; and TestSuiteSetup and
TestSuiteTearDown are ServletTestCase that simulate fixtures.
Maybe if I have got time I'll dive into the sources and try to write a
true "ServerSideSuite".
Anyway, thanks a lot for your answers and for the cactus project,
Phil
> There is currently no notion of "server-side test suites".
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > > > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > > > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code
> on
> > > the
> > > > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is
> run. At
> > > the
> > > > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing
> the
> > > > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get
> executed
> > > on
> > > > the client-side (obviously).
> > > >
> > > > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any
> answer
> > > on
> > > > the cactus-website.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > (and sorry for my bad english)
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE
> does
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
Hi Phil,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> Sent: lundi 23 août 2004 15:53
> To: Cactus Users List
> Subject: RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
>
> --- Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> a écrit :
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > The following page
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it
> > all too
> > :-)
>
> Does it?
> According to the page, the only way to run "server-side testsuite
> fixtures" is to use the ServletTestSuite class. The problem is that it
> force me to use (classic JUnit) TestCases inside the suite, when I'd
> like to use Servlet or JSP-TestCases.
> Or maybe I didn't understand the documentation...
I thought that steps 3 and 4 of this page were answering your question but I
now realize that maybe I have not understood the question correctly.
More precisely the setUp()/teardown() methods will be executed on the server
side (which is what you want) but I now understand that you want this for a
set of Cactus Test Cases and not just for one test case. Is that correct?
Then, why don't you create a MyServletTestCase class which has a default
setUp()/teardown() and then have your tests extend MyServletTestCase,
ensuring they call super.setUp()/super.tearDown()?
Another option is to create this common setup/teardown in a separate helper
class and call them from your test classes.
Would that do it for you?
There is currently no notion of "server-side test suites".
Thanks
-Vincent
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on
> > the
> > > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At
> > the
> > > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> > > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed
> > on
> > > the client-side (obviously).
> > >
> > > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer
> > on
> > > the cactus-website.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > (and sorry for my bad english)
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does
> > it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Philemon Siclone <ph...@yahoo.fr>.
--- Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> a écrit :
> Hi Phil,
>
> The following page
> http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it
> all too
> :-)
Does it?
According to the page, the only way to run "server-side testsuite
fixtures" is to use the ServletTestSuite class. The problem is that it
force me to use (classic JUnit) TestCases inside the suite, when I'd
like to use Servlet or JSP-TestCases.
Or maybe I didn't understand the documentation...
Regards,
Phil
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> > Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> > To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on
> the
> > server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At
> the
> > moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> > servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed
> on
> > the client-side (obviously).
> >
> > It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer
> on
> > the cactus-website.
> >
> > Regards,
> > (and sorry for my bad english)
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does
> it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
Hi Phil,
The following page
http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/writing/howto_testcase.html says it all too
:-)
Thanks
-Vincent
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philemon Siclone [mailto:philemon_siclone@yahoo.fr]
> Sent: mercredi 18 août 2004 14:54
> To: cactus-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: How to write "testsuite server-side fixtures"
>
> Hi,
>
> The title says it all (almost). I'd like to execute some code on the
> server-side before and after a set of (servlet)testcases is run. At the
> moment I have written a (classic junit) testSuite containing the
> servletTestCases, but the fixtures of this testSuite get executed on
> the client-side (obviously).
>
> It seems like a quite simple need but I could not find any answer on
> the cactus-website.
>
> Regards,
> (and sorry for my bad english)
>
> Phil
>
> PS: I do not use cactus-ant tasks for tests-execution : my IDE does it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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