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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com> on 2004/08/31 18:47:25 UTC
Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
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Originally I thought commit records were supposed to go to
derby-dev@db.apache.org, but they are in fact going to
derby-commits@db.apache.org (you can find it at
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/).
So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the separate
list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev? If everyone wants
to keep them on derby-commits, I'll add that mail list to
http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
~ -jean
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Kathey Marsden <km...@Sourcery.Org>.
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I vote for separate commit list.
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
| Jean T. Anderson wrote:
|
|
| | So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the separate
| | list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev? If everyone wants
| | to keep them on derby-commits, I'll add that mail list to
| | http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
|
|
| We are caught between the Apache DB guidelines that seem to state a
| commit list is used, and copying Apache DB sub-projects that use a
| single developer list. The easiest solution is probably to have a vote
| to adopt one or the other. I think the current setup of a separate
| commit list is the most flexible.
|
| Dan.
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Jan Hlavatý <hl...@code.cz>.
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I'm for separate commit list.
Jan
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
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Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
| On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
|
|> | We are caught between the Apache DB guidelines that seem to state a
|> | commit list is used, and copying Apache DB sub-projects that use a
|> | single developer list.
|
|
| I'm not sure where you seeing that guideline. Is is
| http://db.apache.org/communication.html? I think that's meant to be
| more descriptive than prescriptive. Is there another place you're
| thinking of? If so, we should change it.
Yes that's the place. The wording is
'The commit lists are where all cvs code commit messages are sent. All
committers are required to subscribe to this list so that they can stay
aware of changes to the repository.'
I read that as definitive, specifically '... ARE where ALL ...'.
Maybe an additional infomation is needed that says something like
'sub-projects can choose to send commit messages to the developer list
instead'.
Dan.
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> | We are caught between the Apache DB guidelines that seem to state a
> | commit list is used, and copying Apache DB sub-projects that use a
> | single developer list.
I'm not sure where you seeing that guideline. Is is
http://db.apache.org/communication.html? I think that's meant to be more
descriptive than prescriptive. Is there another place you're thinking of?
If so, we should change it.
> Is a vote necessary?
Lazy consensus seems to carry the day on this.
> If so, I'll organize it. If not, I'll simply update the information in
> http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
>
> ~ -jean
>
Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by "Jean T. Anderson" <jt...@bristowhill.com>.
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Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
| Jean T. Anderson wrote:
|
| | So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the
| separate | list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev? If
| everyone wants | to keep them on derby-commits, I'll add that mail
| list to | http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
|
|
| We are caught between the Apache DB guidelines that seem to state a
| commit list is used, and copying Apache DB sub-projects that use a
| single developer list. The easiest solution is probably to have a
| vote to adopt one or the other. I think the current setup of a
| separate commit list is the most flexible.
I have seen no opinions expressed on this list that argue for changing
the existing setup. Everyone has stated a preference for the separate
list. --Unless I've missed any posts and feel free to point any out to
me. :-)
Is a vote necessary?
If so, I'll organize it. If not, I'll simply update the information in
http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
~ -jean
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
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Jean T. Anderson wrote:
| So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the separate
| list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev? If everyone wants
| to keep them on derby-commits, I'll add that mail list to
| http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
We are caught between the Apache DB guidelines that seem to state a
commit list is used, and copying Apache DB sub-projects that use a
single developer list. The easiest solution is probably to have a vote
to adopt one or the other. I think the current setup of a separate
commit list is the most flexible.
Dan.
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Patrick Mueller <pm...@yahoo.com>.
+1 for leaving them in derby-commits
On Aug 31, 2004, at 12:47 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
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> Originally I thought commit records were supposed to go to
> derby-dev@db.apache.org, but they are in fact going to
> derby-commits@db.apache.org (you can find it at
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/).
>
> So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the separate
> list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev? If everyone wants
> to keep them on derby-commits, I'll add that mail list to
> http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html .
>
> ~ -jean
>
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pmuellr@yahoo.com
Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Samuel Andrew McIntyre <fu...@nonintuitive.com>.
On Aug 31, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
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> Originally I thought commit records were supposed to go to
> derby-dev@db.apache.org, but they are in fact going to
> derby-commits@db.apache.org
>
> So, any thoughts on this?
>
> ~ -jean
I personally would prefer the commit records on a separate list, for
ease of browsing the commits and to keep the noise down on derby-dev.
Plus, it looks like the Apache DB project suggests keeping separate
commit lists on the project guidelines:
http://db.apache.org/communication.html
While this doesn't appear to be strictly followed, maybe we can blaze a
trail for standards compliance in this area. ;-)
Anyway, that's my $.02,
andrew
Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Daniel John Debrunner <dj...@debrunners.com>.
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Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
| Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
|
|
|>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
|>
|>
|>>they were supposed to be redirected to the -dev list. i guess
|>>that got dropped. they were originally set up to be on their
|>>own list, but it was decided to put them on -dev instead.
|>
|>Where?
|
|
| amongst the initial set of committers from ibm when the infrastructure
| was being set up. if you think it should be revisited now in a more
| open forum, i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with that. :-)
And that's exactly what is happening in this thread!!!
:-)
Dan.
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>
>> they were supposed to be redirected to the -dev list. i guess
>> that got dropped. they were originally set up to be on their
>> own list, but it was decided to put them on -dev instead.
>
> Where?
amongst the initial set of committers from ibm when the infrastructure
was being set up. if you think it should be revisited now in a more
open forum, i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with that. :-)
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> they were supposed to be redirected to the -dev list. i guess
> that got dropped. they were originally set up to be on their
> own list, but it was decided to put them on -dev instead.
Where?
RE: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> > Originally I thought commit records were supposed to go to
> > derby-dev@db.apache.org, but they are in fact going to
> > derby-commits@db.apache.org
> >
> > So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the
> > separate list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev?
>
> they were supposed to be redirected to the -dev list. i guess
> that got dropped. they were originally set up to be on their
> own list, but it was decided to put them on -dev instead.
Yes, apparently that change got dropped. But is there an action item, or
just leave it as it is?
--- Noel
Re: Derby commit records are posted to derby-commits@db.apache.org
Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
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Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> Originally I thought commit records were supposed to go to
> derby-dev@db.apache.org, but they are in fact going to
> derby-commits@db.apache.org (you can find it at
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/).
>
> So, any thoughts on this? Should they continue to go to the separate
> list? Or would people prefer they go to derby-dev?
they were supposed to be redirected to the -dev list. i guess
that got dropped. they were originally set up to be on their
own list, but it was decided to put them on -dev instead.
- --
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
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