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Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:39:44 -0000, Uwe Brauer <ou...@mat.ucm.es> wrote:

> I have a document which contains a
>
> table
>
> Some text
>
> table
>
>
> So I want to select all the text of the document (basically I want to
> change the font), but select all does not select all, it only selects
> one table!

the problem vanishes if you insert some text before the first table (by positioning the caret in the beginning of its first cell and typing something).

that looks like a bug.

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Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

Posted by Dr Donald Zarlengo <za...@me.com>.
Well, thank you for your immediate response.

I am always open to learning - and helping others.




Don

Donald Zarlenga Ph.D.
zarlengo@me.com




On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net> wrote:

Dr Donald Zarlengo wrote:
> Great news.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> Donald Zarlenga Ph.D.
> zarlengo@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:33 AM, Uwe Brauer <ou...@mat.ucm.es> wrote:
> 
>>> "Andrea" == Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> writes:
> 
>> Johnny smith wrote:
> 
>> And a historical one:
> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7747
> 
> I didn't know about that. BTW even the newest version of Libreoffice has
> this bug. Seems to be hidden deep deep in some attic part of the code.
> 
> Uwe Brauer 

Not sure what the "Great News" is, but part of the solution to this
"historical" issue is not well documented:

o To insert a paragraph before a table at the start of a document place
the cursor before the contents of the first cell in the table and press
ALT+ENTER.

o To insert a paragraph after a table at the end of a document place the
cursor after the contents of the last cell in the table and press ALT+ENTER.

The bug id=7747 should only concentrate on the fact that it is not
possible to "Select All" (CTRL+A) when the document starts or ends with
a table. (i.e.. No leading or trailing paragraph.)

This issue is different from Uwe's situation where he was trying to
override the Conditional Formatting of a table.

Regards

Dave



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Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
Dr Donald Zarlengo wrote:
> Great news.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> Donald Zarlenga Ph.D.
> zarlengo@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:33 AM, Uwe Brauer <ou...@mat.ucm.es> wrote:
> 
>>> "Andrea" == Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> writes:
> 
>> Johnny smith wrote:
> 
>> And a historical one:
> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7747
> 
> I didn't know about that. BTW even the newest version of Libreoffice has
> this bug. Seems to be hidden deep deep in some attic part of the code.
> 
> Uwe Brauer 

Not sure what the "Great News" is, but part of the solution to this
"historical" issue is not well documented:

o To insert a paragraph before a table at the start of a document place
the cursor before the contents of the first cell in the table and press
ALT+ENTER.

o To insert a paragraph after a table at the end of a document place the
cursor after the contents of the last cell in the table and press ALT+ENTER.

The bug id=7747 should only concentrate on the fact that it is not
possible to "Select All" (CTRL+A) when the document starts or ends with
a table. (ie. No leading or trailing paragraph.)

This issue is different from Uwe's situation where he was trying to
override the Conditional Formatting of a table.

Regards

Dave



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Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
Uwe Brauer wrote:
>>> "Dave" == Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net> writes:
> 
>    > The bug id=7747 should only concentrate on the fact that it is not
>    > possible to "Select All" (CTRL+A) when the document starts or ends with
>    > a table. (ie. No leading or trailing paragraph.)
> 
>    > This issue is different from Uwe's situation where he was trying to
>    > override the Conditional Formatting of a table.
> 
> Well I might for some other reason select the whole text, say for coping
> it. The issue is the odt file I sent, generated by the org converter is
> ODF compliant but this workaround does not work!
> 
> Uwe

I did not offer a Select All workaround for your "Conditional
Formatting" situation.

The only way to know if the org converter is applying the correct ODF
translation is to examine the structure of the source document.

Dave



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Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does notselect­ all

Posted by Uwe Brauer <ou...@mat.ucm.es>.
>> "Dave" == Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net> writes:

   > The bug id=7747 should only concentrate on the fact that it is not
   > possible to "Select All" (CTRL+A) when the document starts or ends with
   > a table. (ie. No leading or trailing paragraph.)

   > This issue is different from Uwe's situation where he was trying to
   > override the Conditional Formatting of a table.

Well I might for some other reason select the whole text, say for coping
it. The issue is the odt file I sent, generated by the org converter is
ODF compliant but this workaround does not work!

Uwe

Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

Posted by Dr Donald Zarlengo <za...@me.com>.
Great news.



Don

Donald Zarlenga Ph.D.
zarlengo@me.com




On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:33 AM, Uwe Brauer <ou...@mat.ucm.es> wrote:

>> "Andrea" == Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> writes:

> Johnny smith wrote:

> And a historical one:

> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7747

I didn't know about that. BTW even the newest version of Libreoffice has
this bug. Seems to be hidden deep deep in some attic part of the code.

Uwe Brauer

Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does notselect­ all

Posted by Uwe Brauer <ou...@mat.ucm.es>.
>> "Andrea" == Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> writes:

   > johnny smith wrote:

   > And a historical one:

   > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7747

I didn't know about that. BTW even the newest version of Libreoffice has
this bug. Seems to be hidden deep deep in some attic part of the code.

Uwe Brauer

Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

Posted by Dr Donald Zarlengo <za...@me.com>.
I assume you are using OpenOffice.  
Are you using it in Text Mode? or Spreadsheet? 
Are you working on a Mac or windows computer?

I selected whole document, with lots of tables, etc under Word or Excel and it always worked. 

I have to set up a dual table in the OpenOffice - once I know which function (text, spreadsheet, data base etc.) that you
are using. 

Hope I can help.

PS
I also use Nisus Pro sometimes - but I never got good at it, because I used to know Word so well.
I like Nisus and their ownership. I have met and talked with Bill Gates. I have heard many bad
stories about his temper and lack of respect for others.

I just saw an interview of Steve Jobs and Bill Gages. Steve just shined all over Bill. But Steve said good
things on TV about Bill. But I have heard from their employees that both could be tyrants.

I always managed to avoid conflict and bring people together at NASA, and in Universities where I
worked as a VP/CIO of IT and Telecom. But I started out in large scale computing because of my
dissertation in Theoretical Physics. I needed to compute using my model. 


Don

Donald Zarlenga Ph.D.
zarlengo@me.com




On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

Johnny smith wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:39:44 -0000, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>> So I want to select all the text of the document (basically I want
>> to change the font), but select all does not select all, it only
>> selects one table!
> the problem vanishes if you insert some text before the first table
> (by positioning the caret in the beginning of its first cell and
> typing something). that looks like a bug.

And a historical one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7747

Regards,
 Andrea.

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Re: document with 2 tables, s­elect all does not select­ all

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
johnny smith wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:39:44 -0000, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>> So I want to select all the text of the document (basically I want
>> to change the font), but select all does not select all, it only
>> selects one table!
> the problem vanishes if you insert some text before the first table
> (by positioning the caret in the beginning of its first cell and
> typing something). that looks like a bug.

And a historical one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7747

Regards,
   Andrea.

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