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Java EE 6 Web Profile
Hi;
You guys , do you think to implement Java EE 6 Web Profile using Tomcat? Or
Tomcat is a Servlet & JSP container forever?
Thanks;
--Gurkan
Re: Java EE 6 Web Profile
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
Hi Kevan;
>>>As Mark mentioned, the Geronimo community is building an EE6 Web Profile
server and full EE6 profile, also. Current releases of Geronimo already
>>>provide custom assemblies which can provide lighter-weight server
runtimes (e.g. web container, only) customized to the needs of your
application(s). >>>You'd be more than welcome to work with the Geronimo
community.
Yes, this seems a more reasonable approach :) Maybe I can create some
extension for injection JSR-299 beans into Servlets and Filters for Tomcat.
>>>Regarding a maven build, Geronimo has a tomcat-archetype which can be
used to create a Tomcat maven build environment. You might want to check it
out.
Really, I do not see it, I will check it.
Thanks;
--Gurkan
2010/3/2 Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>
> On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:11 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the answer Mark :)
> >
> > I have started to fork the Tomcat to implement a Java EE Web Profile,
> called
> > Web Enterprise Server :)
> >
> > My reasons:
> > 1* Without touching source code it is impossible to implement such a
> > product.
> > 2* I also do not like code conventions used in Tomcat (for example ,
> > listener-observer model.). I will implement an interfaces and use
> interfaces
> > on all core modules instead of using implementation classes.
> > 3* I do no like to build it via complex ant scripts. I will create a
> maven
> > module for each of the projects. I think that each current project will
> > provide one/two modules.
>
> Gurkan,
> As Mark mentioned, the Geronimo community is building an EE6 Web Profile
> server and full EE6 profile, also. Current releases of Geronimo already
> provide custom assemblies which can provide lighter-weight server runtimes
> (e.g. web container, only) customized to the needs of your application(s).
> You'd be more than welcome to work with the Geronimo community.
>
> Regarding a maven build, Geronimo has a tomcat-archetype which can be used
> to create a Tomcat maven build environment. You might want to check it out.
>
> --kevan
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Gurkan Erdogdu
http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com
Re: Java EE 6 Web Profile
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:11 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
> Thanks for the answer Mark :)
>
> I have started to fork the Tomcat to implement a Java EE Web Profile, called
> Web Enterprise Server :)
>
> My reasons:
> 1* Without touching source code it is impossible to implement such a
> product.
> 2* I also do not like code conventions used in Tomcat (for example ,
> listener-observer model.). I will implement an interfaces and use interfaces
> on all core modules instead of using implementation classes.
> 3* I do no like to build it via complex ant scripts. I will create a maven
> module for each of the projects. I think that each current project will
> provide one/two modules.
Gurkan,
As Mark mentioned, the Geronimo community is building an EE6 Web Profile server and full EE6 profile, also. Current releases of Geronimo already provide custom assemblies which can provide lighter-weight server runtimes (e.g. web container, only) customized to the needs of your application(s). You'd be more than welcome to work with the Geronimo community.
Regarding a maven build, Geronimo has a tomcat-archetype which can be used to create a Tomcat maven build environment. You might want to check it out.
--kevan
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Re: Java EE 6 Web Profile
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <cg...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the answer Mark :)
I have started to fork the Tomcat to implement a Java EE Web Profile, called
Web Enterprise Server :)
My reasons:
1* Without touching source code it is impossible to implement such a
product.
2* I also do not like code conventions used in Tomcat (for example ,
listener-observer model.). I will implement an interfaces and use interfaces
on all core modules instead of using implementation classes.
3* I do no like to build it via complex ant scripts. I will create a maven
module for each of the projects. I think that each current project will
provide one/two modules.
Thanks;
--Gurkan
2010/2/26 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
> On 26/02/2010 08:55, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
>
>> Hi;
>>
>> You guys , do you think to implement Java EE 6 Web Profile using Tomcat?
>> Or
>> Tomcat is a Servlet& JSP container forever?
>>
>
> There has been some internal discussion on this topic when a journalist was
> asking essentially the same question.
>
> I think the reply I gave then (that in the end wasn't published) still
> applies:
>
> <quote>
> Currently, there are no plans in the Tomcat community to implement the
> web profile. Tomcat has always been focused on the Servlet and JSP/EL
> specifications. We simply don't see a demand from the Tomcat community
> for Tomcat to support the web profile. In my day job at SpringSource, I
> regularly work with clients that use Tomcat. Some of those clients have
> a requirement for a JTA implementation but I don't recall any of those
> clients asking for any of the other components in the web profile.
>
> Providing an application server that meets the web profile is on the
> road map for Apache Geronimo (Tomcat provides the Servlet & JSP
> implementations for Geronimo). The Tomcat committers will continue to
> listen to the Tomcat community via the very active users discussion list
> and, if a strong demand for web-profile support in Tomcat emerges, then
> we would look at the options to provide web profile support at that point.
> </quote>
>
> This is my personal view and I'm sure the other committers will speak up if
> they disagree.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
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Re: Java EE 6 Web Profile
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 26/02/2010 08:55, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
> Hi;
>
> You guys , do you think to implement Java EE 6 Web Profile using Tomcat? Or
> Tomcat is a Servlet& JSP container forever?
There has been some internal discussion on this topic when a journalist
was asking essentially the same question.
I think the reply I gave then (that in the end wasn't published) still
applies:
<quote>
Currently, there are no plans in the Tomcat community to implement the
web profile. Tomcat has always been focused on the Servlet and JSP/EL
specifications. We simply don't see a demand from the Tomcat community
for Tomcat to support the web profile. In my day job at SpringSource, I
regularly work with clients that use Tomcat. Some of those clients have
a requirement for a JTA implementation but I don't recall any of those
clients asking for any of the other components in the web profile.
Providing an application server that meets the web profile is on the
road map for Apache Geronimo (Tomcat provides the Servlet & JSP
implementations for Geronimo). The Tomcat committers will continue to
listen to the Tomcat community via the very active users discussion list
and, if a strong demand for web-profile support in Tomcat emerges, then
we would look at the options to provide web profile support at that point.
</quote>
This is my personal view and I'm sure the other committers will speak up
if they disagree.
Mark
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