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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Eric <eh...@gmail.com> on 2015/02/07 03:10:03 UTC
Swiz Donation?
Hello,
Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
happened already?
-Eric
RE: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
The consensus wasn't to add Swiz to the flex SDK itself. The basis being that it gave the impression of having a favorite, which we don't want to stifle the choices people make. It was to add it in a GIT repo for storing. I believe at this time it would have been added utilities repo. However it has not been donated yet (or at least completed).
-Mark
Re: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Christophe Herreman <ch...@gmail.com>.
As the original author of the Spring ActionScript framework, I might be a
bit biased towards Swiz, but I don't think an IoC container belongs in the
core of the Flex framework. Swiz is just one of the IoC implementations out
there that most likely will not fit all scenarios in which you want to use
an IoC container. It will most certainly also not be the preferred IoC
implementation for a good part of the Flex developers, hence the existence
of alternatives.
I would much rather like to see a project with (small) libraries as
extensions to the core Flex framework, think AS3Commons (reflection,
metadata, logging, etc). These building blocks are much more generic in use
compared to an IoC implementation and could be used as a basis for an ad
hoc IoC container.
2015-02-09 17:10 GMT+01:00 Gary Yang <fl...@gmail.com>:
> Oh, Please do NOT merge it into the SDK, IOC is not the only way to void
> boilerplate, and Swiz is not the only way to IOC!
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Eric <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That's a shame. I agree the entire framework might be a bit much, but
> > IoC/Dependency Injection, ServiceHelper and default fault handler support
> > (all optional features) really helped fill in some gaps and avoid
> > boilerplate.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/8/2015 7:19 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote:
> >
> >> No. It was not merged.
> >>
> >> I was in contact with chris (the author of swiz), and although he had
> the
> >> intention to make the donation he was very busy to make it happen, so
> >> things where left and nothing happens in the end.
> >>
> >> 2015-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>:
> >>
> >> On 2/6/2015 9:10 PM, Eric wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>> Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
> >>>> happened already?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Has Swiz been donated? I thought there was talk of it at some
> >>> point in
> >>> the past, but I thought it never happened.
> >>>
> >>> To my knowledge Swiz has not been merged into the standard SDK. Even
> if
> >>> it were donated; I have mixed feelings about whether it should be or
> not
> >>> merged into the main Flex SDK or remain separate.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jeffry Houser
> >>> Technical Entrepreneur
> >>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> >>> 203-379-0773
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
--
Christophe Herreman
http://www.herrodius.com
http://www.springactionscript.org
http://www.as3commons.org
Re: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Eric <eh...@gmail.com>.
On boilerplate, I was referring to the ServiceHelper class & default
fault handlers, not so much IoC. But if the general consensus is to not
bother with adding these things to the core SDK, so be it. I was hoping
it would make it in, just because Swiz is essentially defunct otherwise.
On 2/9/2015 11:10 AM, Gary Yang wrote:
> Oh, Please do NOT merge it into the SDK, IOC is not the only way to void
> boilerplate, and Swiz is not the only way to IOC!
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Eric <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a shame. I agree the entire framework might be a bit much, but
>> IoC/Dependency Injection, ServiceHelper and default fault handler support
>> (all optional features) really helped fill in some gaps and avoid
>> boilerplate.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/2015 7:19 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote:
>>
>>> No. It was not merged.
>>>
>>> I was in contact with chris (the author of swiz), and although he had the
>>> intention to make the donation he was very busy to make it happen, so
>>> things where left and nothing happens in the end.
>>>
>>> 2015-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>:
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2015 9:10 PM, Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
>>>>> happened already?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Has Swiz been donated? I thought there was talk of it at some
>>>> point in
>>>> the past, but I thought it never happened.
>>>>
>>>> To my knowledge Swiz has not been merged into the standard SDK. Even if
>>>> it were donated; I have mixed feelings about whether it should be or not
>>>> merged into the main Flex SDK or remain separate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeffry Houser
>>>> Technical Entrepreneur
>>>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>>>> 203-379-0773
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Gary Yang <fl...@gmail.com>.
Oh, Please do NOT merge it into the SDK, IOC is not the only way to void
boilerplate, and Swiz is not the only way to IOC!
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Eric <eh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a shame. I agree the entire framework might be a bit much, but
> IoC/Dependency Injection, ServiceHelper and default fault handler support
> (all optional features) really helped fill in some gaps and avoid
> boilerplate.
>
>
>
> On 2/8/2015 7:19 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote:
>
>> No. It was not merged.
>>
>> I was in contact with chris (the author of swiz), and although he had the
>> intention to make the donation he was very busy to make it happen, so
>> things where left and nothing happens in the end.
>>
>> 2015-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>:
>>
>> On 2/6/2015 9:10 PM, Eric wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>> Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
>>>> happened already?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has Swiz been donated? I thought there was talk of it at some
>>> point in
>>> the past, but I thought it never happened.
>>>
>>> To my knowledge Swiz has not been merged into the standard SDK. Even if
>>> it were donated; I have mixed feelings about whether it should be or not
>>> merged into the main Flex SDK or remain separate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeffry Houser
>>> Technical Entrepreneur
>>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>>> 203-379-0773
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Eric <eh...@gmail.com>.
That's a shame. I agree the entire framework might be a bit much, but
IoC/Dependency Injection, ServiceHelper and default fault handler
support (all optional features) really helped fill in some gaps and
avoid boilerplate.
On 2/8/2015 7:19 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote:
> No. It was not merged.
>
> I was in contact with chris (the author of swiz), and although he had the
> intention to make the donation he was very busy to make it happen, so
> things where left and nothing happens in the end.
>
> 2015-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>:
>
>> On 2/6/2015 9:10 PM, Eric wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
>>> happened already?
>>>
>>>
>> Has Swiz been donated? I thought there was talk of it at some point in
>> the past, but I thought it never happened.
>>
>> To my knowledge Swiz has not been merged into the standard SDK. Even if
>> it were donated; I have mixed feelings about whether it should be or not
>> merged into the main Flex SDK or remain separate.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeffry Houser
>> Technical Entrepreneur
>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>> 203-379-0773
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
No. It was not merged.
I was in contact with chris (the author of swiz), and although he had the
intention to make the donation he was very busy to make it happen, so
things where left and nothing happens in the end.
2015-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>:
> On 2/6/2015 9:10 PM, Eric wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
>> happened already?
>>
>>
> Has Swiz been donated? I thought there was talk of it at some point in
> the past, but I thought it never happened.
>
> To my knowledge Swiz has not been merged into the standard SDK. Even if
> it were donated; I have mixed feelings about whether it should be or not
> merged into the main Flex SDK or remain separate.
>
>
>
> --
> Jeffry Houser
> Technical Entrepreneur
> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> 203-379-0773
>
>
--
Carlos Rovira
M: +34 607 22 60 05
http://www.codeoscopic.com
http://www.directwriter.es
http://www.avant2.es
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Re: Swiz Donation?
Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
On 2/6/2015 9:10 PM, Eric wrote:
> Hello,
> Is Swiz still going to be merged into the standard SDK? Or has that
> happened already?
>
Has Swiz been donated? I thought there was talk of it at some point
in the past, but I thought it never happened.
To my knowledge Swiz has not been merged into the standard SDK. Even
if it were donated; I have mixed feelings about whether it should be or
not merged into the main Flex SDK or remain separate.
--
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773