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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2017/10/06 08:11:06 UTC
Re: Audio/Video suddenly disabled
You have to _very carefully_ follow SSL instructions.
Additional info can be obtained by adding java SSL debug options (
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/security/jsse/ReadDebug.html)
and enabling client DEBUG
Self signed certificate is sort of "russian roulette", they are not trusted
by java,OS and browser by default
I believe you can ask for commercial support .....
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried with Self-Seigned certificate but didn't work either.
> Is there any way to check both red5 client and server connection mechanism
> on OM ?
> Because error doesn't reflect properly on page and only showing missing
> error 566 , 642 etc..
> Do you know anyone who can solve this issue ?
>
> Regards
> Biswajit
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There was long discussion in mailing list regarding the topic
>> Please use the search and double-check you have followed instructions
>> published on site
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I followed self-signed certificate but still getting
>>> 'CertificateUntrustedError' during connection. What is the reason ?
>>> Do I need to buy the SSL certificate then only it works ? please guide
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please do not cross-post to different lists.
>>>> This question should go to user@ list only.
>>>>
>>>> Please search mailing archives regarding this.
>>>> Debugging SSL issues might be not very easy but possible.
>>>>
>>>> You have to follow the instructions :)
>>>>
>>>> Additional steps might be required in case you are using self-signed
>>>> certificate
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Its strange that there is no error log in red5 or server log. Only I
>>>>> can see the error while page load.
>>>>> Even I executed the server with DEBUG mode. What should do ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This generally mean you miss some step and now OM web browser client
>>>>>> is unable to connect to OM server.
>>>>>> Examine OM logs, fix all errors and follow the instructions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Biswajit Jena <expertsmeet@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am getting following error after SSL setup on OM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While entering to the room ,I get Missing error 556 , 642 and 204 .
>>>>>>> What could be the reason ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shared a screenshot for your review and suggestion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have to find SSL certificate provider
>>>>>>>> And get and/or buy ssl certificate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WBR, Maxim
>>>>>>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 19:00, "Biswajit Jena" <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this configuration support centOS 6 ?
>>>>>>>>> Please guide me with actual working steps.
>>>>>>>>> I don't know where to submit the CSR as per link :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed
>>>>>>>>> certificate
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure: http://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not able to fix this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please share the details configuration if any ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the issue :(((
>>>>>>>>>>>> Details are here: http://markmail.org/thread/c2a3l2vshjqnz5o6
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have marked to user@list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > No, it is running over HTTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I believe this question should go to user@ list :))
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Are you testing using https? (http://markmail.org/thread/c2
>>>>>>>>>>>> a3l2vshjqnz5o6)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > I have setup openmeeting in the CentOS. It was working
>>>>>>>>>>>> fine both audio /
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > video after loading conference page. But suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>>> disappear from choose
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > device window.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Please look into the attached screenshot for details and
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Audio/Video suddenly disabled
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Great you finally set it up :)
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It works with 'real-certificate'.
>
> Steps
> 1.Build Keystore with domain specific
> 2.Imported all certificated provided by CA
> 3.URL marked red to green https on Browser window
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Please provide detailed list of steps you have performed
>> as well detailed description of the results
>> so we can help you
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Ok, I'll choose any SSL provider for real-certificate.
>>>
>>> I tried with network testing page https://localhost:5443/op
>>> enmeetings/swf?6&swf=networktesting.swf10.swf for flash.
>>> It is showing me port error but that is updated in firewall and able to
>>> telnet remotely. What is the reason ? Is there anything I need to update
>>> for Flash media fails. ?
>>>
>>> Still getting error while Flash connection page load for video :
>>> NetConnection.Connect.CertificateUntrustedSigner
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> <<< *Where do I submit ? Any specific vendor ? Can I do this on my
>>>> domain CPanel ?*
>>>>
>>>> I't your choice, you have choose SSL provider
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did all the steps but still facing issue on SSL configuration and need
>>>>> your help. How do I proceed ?
>>>>> I reviewed the steps as per the documentation mentioned in the URL :
>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.Generated CSR file (OK ) from CentOS console.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed certificate ( *Where
>>>>> do I submit ? Any specific vendor ? Can I do this on my domain CPanel ?*
>>>>>
>>>>> 4.Import your chosen CA's root certificate into the keystore (may need
>>>>> to download it from their site - make sure to get the root CA and not the
>>>>> intermediate one):keytool -import -alias root -keystore
>>>>> red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file root.crt
>>>>>
>>>>> 5.Import the intermediate certificate(s) you normally receive with the
>>>>> certificate: *( How do I get this ?)*
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> keytool -import -alias intermed -keystore red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file intermediate.crt
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> 6.Import the certificate you received: *( How do I get this ?)*
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>
>>>>> keytool -import -alias red5 -keystore red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file demo.openmeetings.de.crt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to _very carefully_ follow SSL instructions.
>>>>>> Additional info can be obtained by adding java SSL debug options (
>>>>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/secur
>>>>>> ity/jsse/ReadDebug.html) and enabling client DEBUG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self signed certificate is sort of "russian roulette", they are not
>>>>>> trusted by java,OS and browser by default
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe you can ask for commercial support .....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried with Self-Seigned certificate but didn't work either.
>>>>>>> Is there any way to check both red5 client and server connection
>>>>>>> mechanism on OM ?
>>>>>>> Because error doesn't reflect properly on page and only showing
>>>>>>> missing error 566 , 642 etc..
>>>>>>> Do you know anyone who can solve this issue ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Biswajit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was long discussion in mailing list regarding the topic
>>>>>>>> Please use the search and double-check you have followed
>>>>>>>> instructions published on site
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I followed self-signed certificate but still getting
>>>>>>>>> 'CertificateUntrustedError' during connection. What is the reason ?
>>>>>>>>> Do I need to buy the SSL certificate then only it works ? please
>>>>>>>>> guide me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please do not cross-post to different lists.
>>>>>>>>>> This question should go to user@ list only.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please search mailing archives regarding this.
>>>>>>>>>> Debugging SSL issues might be not very easy but possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have to follow the instructions :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Additional steps might be required in case you are using
>>>>>>>>>> self-signed certificate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Its strange that there is no error log in red5 or server log.
>>>>>>>>>>> Only I can see the error while page load.
>>>>>>>>>>> Even I executed the server with DEBUG mode. What should do ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This generally mean you miss some step and now OM web browser
>>>>>>>>>>>> client is unable to connect to OM server.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Examine OM logs, fix all errors and follow the instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am getting following error after SSL setup on OM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> While entering to the room ,I get Missing error 556 , 642 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 204 . What could be the reason ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shared a screenshot for your review and suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to find SSL certificate provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And get and/or buy ssl certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR, Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 19:00, "Biswajit Jena" <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this configuration support centOS 6 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please guide me with actual working steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where to submit the CSR as per link :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure: http://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not able to fix this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please share the details configuration if any ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the issue :(((
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Details are here: http://markmail.org/thread/c2a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3l2vshjqnz5o6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have marked to user@list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > No, it is running over HTTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I believe this question should go to user@ list :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Are you testing using https? (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/c2a3l2vshjqnz5o6)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > I have setup openmeeting in the CentOS. It was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working fine both audio /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > video after loading conference page. But suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappear from choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > device window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Please look into the attached screenshot for details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and suggest what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Audio/Video suddenly disabled
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Please provide detailed list of steps you have performed
as well detailed description of the results
so we can help you
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
> Ok, I'll choose any SSL provider for real-certificate.
>
> I tried with network testing page https://localhost:5443/
> openmeetings/swf?6&swf=networktesting.swf10.swf for flash.
> It is showing me port error but that is updated in firewall and able to
> telnet remotely. What is the reason ? Is there anything I need to update
> for Flash media fails. ?
>
> Still getting error while Flash connection page load for video :
> NetConnection.Connect.CertificateUntrustedSigner
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> <<< *Where do I submit ? Any specific vendor ? Can I do this on my
>> domain CPanel ?*
>>
>> I't your choice, you have choose SSL provider
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Did all the steps but still facing issue on SSL configuration and need
>>> your help. How do I proceed ?
>>> I reviewed the steps as per the documentation mentioned in the URL :
>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html.
>>>
>>> 2.Generated CSR file (OK ) from CentOS console.
>>>
>>> 3.Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed certificate ( *Where
>>> do I submit ? Any specific vendor ? Can I do this on my domain CPanel ?*
>>>
>>> 4.Import your chosen CA's root certificate into the keystore (may need
>>> to download it from their site - make sure to get the root CA and not the
>>> intermediate one):keytool -import -alias root -keystore
>>> red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file root.crt
>>>
>>> 5.Import the intermediate certificate(s) you normally receive with the
>>> certificate: *( How do I get this ?)*
>>> -
>>>
>>> keytool -import -alias intermed -keystore red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file intermediate.crt
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> 6.Import the certificate you received: *( How do I get this ?)*
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> keytool -import -alias red5 -keystore red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file demo.openmeetings.de.crt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have to _very carefully_ follow SSL instructions.
>>>> Additional info can be obtained by adding java SSL debug options (
>>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/secur
>>>> ity/jsse/ReadDebug.html) and enabling client DEBUG
>>>>
>>>> Self signed certificate is sort of "russian roulette", they are not
>>>> trusted by java,OS and browser by default
>>>>
>>>> I believe you can ask for commercial support .....
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried with Self-Seigned certificate but didn't work either.
>>>>> Is there any way to check both red5 client and server connection
>>>>> mechanism on OM ?
>>>>> Because error doesn't reflect properly on page and only showing
>>>>> missing error 566 , 642 etc..
>>>>> Do you know anyone who can solve this issue ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Biswajit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There was long discussion in mailing list regarding the topic
>>>>>> Please use the search and double-check you have followed instructions
>>>>>> published on site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <expertsmeet@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I followed self-signed certificate but still getting
>>>>>>> 'CertificateUntrustedError' during connection. What is the reason ?
>>>>>>> Do I need to buy the SSL certificate then only it works ? please
>>>>>>> guide me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please do not cross-post to different lists.
>>>>>>>> This question should go to user@ list only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please search mailing archives regarding this.
>>>>>>>> Debugging SSL issues might be not very easy but possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have to follow the instructions :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additional steps might be required in case you are using
>>>>>>>> self-signed certificate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its strange that there is no error log in red5 or server log. Only
>>>>>>>>> I can see the error while page load.
>>>>>>>>> Even I executed the server with DEBUG mode. What should do ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This generally mean you miss some step and now OM web browser
>>>>>>>>>> client is unable to connect to OM server.
>>>>>>>>>> Examine OM logs, fix all errors and follow the instructions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am getting following error after SSL setup on OM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While entering to the room ,I get Missing error 556 , 642 and
>>>>>>>>>>> 204 . What could be the reason ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shared a screenshot for your review and suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have to find SSL certificate provider
>>>>>>>>>>>> And get and/or buy ssl certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR, Maxim
>>>>>>>>>>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 19:00, "Biswajit Jena" <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this configuration support centOS 6 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please guide me with actual working steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where to submit the CSR as per link :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure: http://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not able to fix this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please share the details configuration if any ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the issue :(((
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Details are here: http://markmail.org/thread/c2a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3l2vshjqnz5o6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have marked to user@list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > No, it is running over HTTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I believe this question should go to user@ list :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Are you testing using https? (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/c2a3l2vshjqnz5o6)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > I have setup openmeeting in the CentOS. It was working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine both audio /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > video after loading conference page. But suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappear from choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > device window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Please look into the attached screenshot for details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and suggest what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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Re: Audio/Video suddenly disabled
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
<<< *Where do I submit ? Any specific vendor ? Can I do this on my domain
CPanel ?*
I't your choice, you have choose SSL provider
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Did all the steps but still facing issue on SSL configuration and need
> your help. How do I proceed ?
> I reviewed the steps as per the documentation mentioned in the URL :
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html.
>
> 2.Generated CSR file (OK ) from CentOS console.
>
> 3.Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed certificate ( *Where
> do I submit ? Any specific vendor ? Can I do this on my domain CPanel ?*
> 4.Import your chosen CA's root certificate into the keystore (may need to
> download it from their site - make sure to get the root CA and not the
> intermediate one):keytool -import -alias root -keystore
> red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file root.crt
>
> 5.Import the intermediate certificate(s) you normally receive with the
> certificate: *( How do I get this ?)*
> -
>
> keytool -import -alias intermed -keystore red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file intermediate.crt
>
> -
>
> 6.Import the certificate you received: *( How do I get this ?)*
>
> -
>
> keytool -import -alias red5 -keystore red5/conf/keystore.jks -trustcacerts -file demo.openmeetings.de.crt
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You have to _very carefully_ follow SSL instructions.
>> Additional info can be obtained by adding java SSL debug options (
>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/
>> security/jsse/ReadDebug.html) and enabling client DEBUG
>>
>> Self signed certificate is sort of "russian roulette", they are not
>> trusted by java,OS and browser by default
>>
>> I believe you can ask for commercial support .....
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried with Self-Seigned certificate but didn't work either.
>>> Is there any way to check both red5 client and server connection
>>> mechanism on OM ?
>>> Because error doesn't reflect properly on page and only showing missing
>>> error 566 , 642 etc..
>>> Do you know anyone who can solve this issue ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Biswajit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was long discussion in mailing list regarding the topic
>>>> Please use the search and double-check you have followed instructions
>>>> published on site
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Biswajit Jena <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I followed self-signed certificate but still getting
>>>>> 'CertificateUntrustedError' during connection. What is the reason ?
>>>>> Do I need to buy the SSL certificate then only it works ? please guide
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please do not cross-post to different lists.
>>>>>> This question should go to user@ list only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please search mailing archives regarding this.
>>>>>> Debugging SSL issues might be not very easy but possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to follow the instructions :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additional steps might be required in case you are using self-signed
>>>>>> certificate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Biswajit Jena <expertsmeet@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its strange that there is no error log in red5 or server log. Only I
>>>>>>> can see the error while page load.
>>>>>>> Even I executed the server with DEBUG mode. What should do ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This generally mean you miss some step and now OM web browser
>>>>>>>> client is unable to connect to OM server.
>>>>>>>> Examine OM logs, fix all errors and follow the instructions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am getting following error after SSL setup on OM.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While entering to the room ,I get Missing error 556 , 642 and 204
>>>>>>>>> . What could be the reason ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shared a screenshot for your review and suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have to find SSL certificate provider
>>>>>>>>>> And get and/or buy ssl certificate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WBR, Maxim
>>>>>>>>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2017 19:00, "Biswajit Jena" <ex...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this configuration support centOS 6 ?
>>>>>>>>>>> Please guide me with actual working steps.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know where to submit the CSR as per link :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Submit CSR to your CA of choice and receive a signed
>>>>>>>>>>> certificate
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure: http://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not able to fix this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please share the details configuration if any ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the issue :(((
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Details are here: http://markmail.org/thread/c2a3l2vshjqnz5o6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have marked to user@list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > No, it is running over HTTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I believe this question should go to user@ list :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Are you testing using https? (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/c2a3l2vshjqnz5o6)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Biswajit Jena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertsmeet@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > I have setup openmeeting in the CentOS. It was working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine both audio /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > video after loading conference page. But suddenly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappear from choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > device window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Please look into the attached screenshot for details and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax