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Newbie to Content Management - General Question
I am a seasoned enterprise java programmer working for financial firm and
newbie to the world of content management.
We have a project that requires documents CRUD along with versioning, it is
a J2EE web-based application and will be used by people both inside and
outside the firm for publishing documents.
Instead of developing a home grown solution I was looking to open source
(**non too invasive) solution and found that there are several out there.
I was wondering if I could use Lenya for my requirement, if yes - where I
can find more info like tutorials, knowledge base forums etc.
Thanks,
Nitty
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Re: Newbie to Content Management - General Question
Posted by Nitty <re...@gmail.com>.
Andreas,
Thank you for the quick response.
At this point our requirement is the user should be a able to CRU documents
and maintain version history (the D in the CRUD would be a soft delete since
we need to maintain history), just like a source control repository.
After the user commit the changes (publishes) the document it should be
available to external vendors outside the firm through a web based
application.
The documents will be in thousands if not hundreds of thousands.
Based your description below Lenya is a great choice for web content
management and our requirement is more on document management.
Thanks again for your pointers to look into Jackrabbit and Sling.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
> Hi Nitty,
>
> Nitty schrieb:
>> I am a seasoned enterprise java programmer working for financial firm and
>> newbie to the world of content management.
>>
>> We have a project that requires documents CRUD along with versioning, it
>> is
>> a J2EE web-based application and will be used by people both inside and
>> outside the firm for publishing documents.
>
> Lenya shines when it comes to web content management, structured XML
> content, and complex XML processing in the presentation layer. So if you
> want to build a complex content-oriented web application with custom
> document types and server-side processing, Lenya is a very good option.
> It simplifies typical web content issues a lot – link management,
> publishing workflows, rendering in different output formats etc.
>
> If you are looking for a repository which treats documents as black
> boxes and allows CRUD via a Java API or REST, there might be better
> solutions (Apache Jackrabbit if you use Java, Apache Sling if you use
> REST and need a web GUI).
>
> Another question is the amount of documents you want to manage. Lenya is
> targeted for websites, so typical installations contain a couple of
> thousand documents. If you need to store hundreds of thousands or even
> millions of documents, you'd have to use a custom repository with Lenya
> (e.g., a JCR-based one), which will require quite a lot of customization
> work.
>
>> Instead of developing a home grown solution I was looking to open source
>> (**non too invasive) solution and found that there are several out there.
>>
>> I was wondering if I could use Lenya for my requirement, if yes - where I
>> can find more info like tutorials, knowledge base forums etc.
>
> Our forum is basically the mailing list archive:
> http://lenya.apache.org/community/ml.html#N10095
>
> You'll find some tutorials on the website and some more info on the Wiki
> (wiki.apache.org/lenya).
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
> --
> Andreas Hartmann, CTO
> BeCompany GmbH
> http://www.becompany.ch
> Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01
>
>
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Re: Newbie to Content Management - General Question
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Hi André,
Florent André schrieb:
>> Another question is the amount of documents you want to manage. Lenya is
>> targeted for websites, so typical installations contain a couple of
>> thousand documents. If you need to store hundreds of thousands or even
>> millions of documents, you'd have to use a custom repository with Lenya
>> (e.g., a JCR-based one), which will require quite a lot of customization
>> work.
>>
>
> I have a trouble remember : It seems to me that I see a way (in
> cocoon.xconf or lenya.xmap (a trouble remember i said !: )) to configure a
> jcr repository... I dreamed or not ?
you didn't :)
We once started a JCR integration, but it is not feature-complete and
has not been tested in production.
> What kind of "customization" we have to do for enable a jcr repository ?
Basically you'd have to implement a custom NodeFactory and the related
classes.
> Is it documented ?
What do you mean here? JCR is documented (you can download the complete
spec), the customization for Lenya is not documented.
> Stable ?
The stability of the JCR repository depends on the particular
implementation. The Lenya integration is not stable.
> howww ! I heard a beer cry ! It's time to do some arm muscle building ! :)
:)
-- Andreas
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BeCompany GmbH
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Re: Newbie to Content Management - General Question
Posted by Florent André <fl...@4sengines.com>.
Hi lenya addicts :)
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:30:28 +0100, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi Nitty,
>
> Nitty schrieb:
>
> Another question is the amount of documents you want to manage. Lenya is
> targeted for websites, so typical installations contain a couple of
> thousand documents. If you need to store hundreds of thousands or even
> millions of documents, you'd have to use a custom repository with Lenya
> (e.g., a JCR-based one), which will require quite a lot of customization
> work.
>
I have a trouble remember : It seems to me that I see a way (in
cocoon.xconf or lenya.xmap (a trouble remember i said !: )) to configure a
jcr repository... I dreamed or not ?
What kind of "customization" we have to do for enable a jcr repository ? Is
it documented ? Stable ?
Thanks for your answer.
howww ! I heard a beer cry ! It's time to do some arm muscle building ! :)
See you soon
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Re: Newbie to Content Management - General Question
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Hi Nitty,
Nitty schrieb:
> I am a seasoned enterprise java programmer working for financial firm and
> newbie to the world of content management.
>
> We have a project that requires documents CRUD along with versioning, it is
> a J2EE web-based application and will be used by people both inside and
> outside the firm for publishing documents.
Lenya shines when it comes to web content management, structured XML
content, and complex XML processing in the presentation layer. So if you
want to build a complex content-oriented web application with custom
document types and server-side processing, Lenya is a very good option.
It simplifies typical web content issues a lot – link management,
publishing workflows, rendering in different output formats etc.
If you are looking for a repository which treats documents as black
boxes and allows CRUD via a Java API or REST, there might be better
solutions (Apache Jackrabbit if you use Java, Apache Sling if you use
REST and need a web GUI).
Another question is the amount of documents you want to manage. Lenya is
targeted for websites, so typical installations contain a couple of
thousand documents. If you need to store hundreds of thousands or even
millions of documents, you'd have to use a custom repository with Lenya
(e.g., a JCR-based one), which will require quite a lot of customization
work.
> Instead of developing a home grown solution I was looking to open source
> (**non too invasive) solution and found that there are several out there.
>
> I was wondering if I could use Lenya for my requirement, if yes - where I
> can find more info like tutorials, knowledge base forums etc.
Our forum is basically the mailing list archive:
http://lenya.apache.org/community/ml.html#N10095
You'll find some tutorials on the website and some more info on the Wiki
(wiki.apache.org/lenya).
-- Andreas
--
Andreas Hartmann, CTO
BeCompany GmbH
http://www.becompany.ch
Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01
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