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[jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and
Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275#action_12908275 ]
Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
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Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The code obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created to get the grant for it from Sun.
> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: RIVER-32
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
> Project: River
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: Contributions
> Reporter: Nigel Daley
> Assignee: Jim Hurley
> Priority: Minor
>
> We still need the original source contribution from Sun Microsystems of the
> Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the former TCK).
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Re: [jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup,
Discovery and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
Posted by Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>.
I believe Nigel Daley is the primary author.
On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:55 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> Thanks Jim,
>
> Do we know who the authors are?
>
> If I uploaded it to JIRA, can some original authors validate it? I
> think this is how provenance works?
>
> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> It's available off java.net:
>>
>> https://starterkit.dev.java.net/downloads/index.html
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>> Does someone have a copy of the test kit? Is it under an apache
>>> license?
>>>
>>> We've got a copy of the Jini Patent Covenant, if the license is
>>> Apache 2, there seem to be enough original developers around to
>>> verify the code's provenance (the original authors need to confirm
>>> the source code and its license, they don't have to donate it,
>>> grant it etc).
>>>
>>> This should be sufficient to rescue it.
>>>
>>> It doesn't look like we're able to use the surrogate source
>>> unfortunately, due to provenance. We've got a copy on Jira for
>>> history's sake.
>>>
>>> As a minimum we should attempt to preserve the code (even if the
>>> license isn't compatible), if its still available, leaving the
>>> door open to resuscitate it later. Who knows Oracle could have a
>>> change of heart.
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>>>> This was probably my bad. When we did the initial River proposal
>>>> to Apache ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RiverProposal ), we
>>>> should
>>>> have included the Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join test
>>>> kit.
>>>>
>>>> Nigel- the proposal does include "QATests (project formerly on
>>>> Jini.org)".
>>>> I don't think it included this test kit, but wondered if you
>>>> remembered.
>>>>
>>>> -Jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps we should close the issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nigel Daley (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>>> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275
>>>>>> #action_12908275 ]
>>>>>> Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The
>>>>>> code obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created
>>>>>> to get the grant for it from Sun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution
>>>>>>> from Sun Microsystems
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Key: RIVER-32
>>>>>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
>>>>>>> Project: River
>>>>>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>>>>>> Components: Contributions
>>>>>>> Reporter: Nigel Daley
>>>>>>> Assignee: Jim Hurley
>>>>>>> Priority: Minor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We still need the original source contribution from Sun
>>>>>>> Microsystems of the Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the
>>>>>>> former TCK).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery
and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
Thanks Jim,
Do we know who the authors are?
If I uploaded it to JIRA, can some original authors validate it? I
think this is how provenance works?
Jim Hurley wrote:
> It's available off java.net:
>
> https://starterkit.dev.java.net/downloads/index.html
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>> Does someone have a copy of the test kit? Is it under an apache
>> license?
>>
>> We've got a copy of the Jini Patent Covenant, if the license is
>> Apache 2, there seem to be enough original developers around to
>> verify the code's provenance (the original authors need to confirm
>> the source code and its license, they don't have to donate it, grant
>> it etc).
>>
>> This should be sufficient to rescue it.
>>
>> It doesn't look like we're able to use the surrogate source
>> unfortunately, due to provenance. We've got a copy on Jira for
>> history's sake.
>>
>> As a minimum we should attempt to preserve the code (even if the
>> license isn't compatible), if its still available, leaving the door
>> open to resuscitate it later. Who knows Oracle could have a change
>> of heart.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>>> This was probably my bad. When we did the initial River proposal
>>> to Apache ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RiverProposal ), we should
>>> have included the Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join test kit.
>>>
>>> Nigel- the proposal does include "QATests (project formerly on
>>> Jini.org)".
>>> I don't think it included this test kit, but wondered if you
>>> remembered.
>>>
>>> -Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>>> Perhaps we should close the issue?
>>>>
>>>> Nigel Daley (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>> [
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275#action_12908275
>>>>> ]
>>>>> Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The code
>>>>> obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created to get
>>>>> the grant for it from Sun.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution from
>>>>>> Sun Microsystems
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Key: RIVER-32
>>>>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
>>>>>> Project: River
>>>>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>>>>> Components: Contributions
>>>>>> Reporter: Nigel Daley
>>>>>> Assignee: Jim Hurley
>>>>>> Priority: Minor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We still need the original source contribution from Sun
>>>>>> Microsystems of the Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the
>>>>>> former TCK).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: [jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup,
Discovery and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
Posted by Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>.
It's available off java.net:
https://starterkit.dev.java.net/downloads/index.html
On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> Does someone have a copy of the test kit? Is it under an apache
> license?
>
> We've got a copy of the Jini Patent Covenant, if the license is
> Apache 2, there seem to be enough original developers around to
> verify the code's provenance (the original authors need to confirm
> the source code and its license, they don't have to donate it, grant
> it etc).
>
> This should be sufficient to rescue it.
>
> It doesn't look like we're able to use the surrogate source
> unfortunately, due to provenance. We've got a copy on Jira for
> history's sake.
>
> As a minimum we should attempt to preserve the code (even if the
> license isn't compatible), if its still available, leaving the door
> open to resuscitate it later. Who knows Oracle could have a change
> of heart.
>
> Peter.
>
> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> This was probably my bad. When we did the initial River proposal
>> to Apache ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RiverProposal ), we
>> should
>> have included the Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join test
>> kit.
>>
>> Nigel- the proposal does include "QATests (project formerly on
>> Jini.org)".
>> I don't think it included this test kit, but wondered if you
>> remembered.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>> Perhaps we should close the issue?
>>>
>>> Nigel Daley (JIRA) wrote:
>>>> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275
>>>> #action_12908275 ]
>>>> Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The code
>>>> obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created to get
>>>> the grant for it from Sun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution from
>>>>> Sun Microsystems
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Key: RIVER-32
>>>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
>>>>> Project: River
>>>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>>>> Components: Contributions
>>>>> Reporter: Nigel Daley
>>>>> Assignee: Jim Hurley
>>>>> Priority: Minor
>>>>>
>>>>> We still need the original source contribution from Sun
>>>>> Microsystems of the Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the
>>>>> former TCK).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery
and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
Does someone have a copy of the test kit? Is it under an apache license?
We've got a copy of the Jini Patent Covenant, if the license is Apache
2, there seem to be enough original developers around to verify the
code's provenance (the original authors need to confirm the source code
and its license, they don't have to donate it, grant it etc).
This should be sufficient to rescue it.
It doesn't look like we're able to use the surrogate source
unfortunately, due to provenance. We've got a copy on Jira for
history's sake.
As a minimum we should attempt to preserve the code (even if the license
isn't compatible), if its still available, leaving the door open to
resuscitate it later. Who knows Oracle could have a change of heart.
Peter.
Jim Hurley wrote:
> This was probably my bad. When we did the initial River proposal
> to Apache ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RiverProposal ), we should
> have included the Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join test kit.
>
> Nigel- the proposal does include "QATests (project formerly on
> Jini.org)".
> I don't think it included this test kit, but wondered if you remembered.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>> Perhaps we should close the issue?
>>
>> Nigel Daley (JIRA) wrote:
>>> [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275#action_12908275
>>> ]
>>> Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>> Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The code
>>> obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created to get the
>>> grant for it from Sun.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution from
>>>> Sun Microsystems
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Key: RIVER-32
>>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
>>>> Project: River
>>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>>> Components: Contributions
>>>> Reporter: Nigel Daley
>>>> Assignee: Jim Hurley
>>>> Priority: Minor
>>>>
>>>> We still need the original source contribution from Sun
>>>> Microsystems of the Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the former
>>>> TCK).
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: [jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup,
Discovery and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
Posted by Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>.
This was probably my bad. When we did the initial River proposal
to Apache ( http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RiverProposal ), we should
have included the Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join test kit.
Nigel- the proposal does include "QATests (project formerly on
Jini.org)".
I don't think it included this test kit, but wondered if you remembered.
-Jim
On Sep 14, 2010, at 4:04 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> Perhaps we should close the issue?
>
> Nigel Daley (JIRA) wrote:
>> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275
>> #action_12908275 ]
>> Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
>> ----------------------------------
>>
>> Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The code
>> obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created to get
>> the grant for it from Sun.
>>
>>
>>> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution from
>>> Sun Microsystems
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Key: RIVER-32
>>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
>>> Project: River
>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>> Components: Contributions
>>> Reporter: Nigel Daley
>>> Assignee: Jim Hurley
>>> Priority: Minor
>>>
>>> We still need the original source contribution from Sun
>>> Microsystems of the Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the former
>>> TCK).
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [jira] Commented: (RIVER-32) Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery
and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
Perhaps we should close the issue?
Nigel Daley (JIRA) wrote:
> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12908275#action_12908275 ]
>
> Nigel Daley commented on RIVER-32:
> ----------------------------------
>
> Unfortunately neither Jim nor I are at Sun/Oracle now. The code obviously is available, but I think this Jira was created to get the grant for it from Sun.
>
>
>> Jini Technology Lookup, Discovery and Join Kit contribution from Sun Microsystems
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Key: RIVER-32
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-32
>> Project: River
>> Issue Type: New Feature
>> Components: Contributions
>> Reporter: Nigel Daley
>> Assignee: Jim Hurley
>> Priority: Minor
>>
>> We still need the original source contribution from Sun Microsystems of the
>> Lookup, Discovery, and Join Kit (ie the former TCK).
>>
>
>