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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> on 2013/01/11 11:41:51 UTC
Re: "dist" move...
On 12/6/12 10:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12/6/2012 9:40 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 06.12.2012 00:03, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>> I put in a request, as part of our graduation process, to have our
>>>>> "dist" area moved to a top level.
>>>>>
>>>>> INFRA-5607
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5607
>>>>
>>>> The issue is requesting a move to http://www.apache.org/dist/ooo, but
>>>> shouldn't this better be named */openoffice (or */aoo)?
>>>>
>>>> Herbert
>>> Herbert -- see comments by Henk on the ticket. It does appear that
>>> /dist/openoffice will be the new top-level name for our *next* release
>>> -- nothing will be moved now. Perhaps this was already communicated to
>>> infra and I was not aware of it.
>>>
>>> Also, of more immediate concern is the archiving of the 3.4.0 source
>>> release and possibly the 3.3. patch.
>>>
>> All of this is driven by the nature of /dist/, how it is mirrored outside Apache, and the pretty substantial resources taken up by our release.
>> There are consequences to moving something once it is there - some mirrors might end up with both areas mirrored, for example.
>> The best way to resolve that (in the opinion of infra - AIUI) is to move the location on our next release, this allows for planing of resources and the notification of the mirror network. It seems a reasonable approach to me.
>
> This is the direction the comments are going in Kay's issue.
>
> Since the 3.4.1 Language packs are supplements to the 3.4.1 source release and will have incubator branding they will go into the incubator/ooo/ location.
>
> Some might think that we should be doing a full 3.4.2 with non-incubator branding, but no real need IMO.
>
What does it mean for our upcoming respin of AOO 3.4.1? Taking the
discussion into account I plan to do the following.
1. copy the new src release ("") to
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/3.4.1/source besides the former 3.4.1
src release. Please notice that the name includes now a revision number.
2. copy the the new binaries besides the existing ones under
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ast/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/da/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/eu/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/gd/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/pl/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ko/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/nb/3.4.1
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/sv/3.4.1
With the next release AOO 4.0 we will have a new name without
"incubating" and I plan to reorganize the directory structure to
simplify it. I know we had a discussion about it in the past and I will
continue there or will start a new thread on this topic separately. I
would like to plan this asap to be prepared and to have enough time to
adapt the download scripts etc.
Juergen
Re: "dist" move...
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 12/6/12 10:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 12/6/2012 9:40 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> On 06.12.2012 00:03, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>>>> I put in a request, as part of our graduation process, to have our
> >>>>> "dist" area moved to a top level.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> INFRA-5607
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5607
> >>>>
> >>>> The issue is requesting a move to http://www.apache.org/dist/ooo, but
> >>>> shouldn't this better be named */openoffice (or */aoo)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Herbert
> >>> Herbert -- see comments by Henk on the ticket. It does appear that
> >>> /dist/openoffice will be the new top-level name for our *next* release
> >>> -- nothing will be moved now. Perhaps this was already communicated to
> >>> infra and I was not aware of it.
> >>>
> >>> Also, of more immediate concern is the archiving of the 3.4.0 source
> >>> release and possibly the 3.3. patch.
> >>>
> >> All of this is driven by the nature of /dist/, how it is mirrored
> outside Apache, and the pretty substantial resources taken up by our
> release.
> >> There are consequences to moving something once it is there - some
> mirrors might end up with both areas mirrored, for example.
> >> The best way to resolve that (in the opinion of infra - AIUI) is to
> move the location on our next release, this allows for planing of resources
> and the notification of the mirror network. It seems a reasonable
> approach to me.
> >
> > This is the direction the comments are going in Kay's issue.
> >
> > Since the 3.4.1 Language packs are supplements to the 3.4.1 source
> release and will have incubator branding they will go into the
> incubator/ooo/ location.
> >
> > Some might think that we should be doing a full 3.4.2 with non-incubator
> branding, but no real need IMO.
> >
>
> What does it mean for our upcoming respin of AOO 3.4.1? Taking the
> discussion into account I plan to do the following.
>
> 1. copy the new src release ("") to
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/3.4.1/source besides the former 3.4.1
> src release. Please notice that the name includes now a revision number.
>
> 2. copy the the new binaries besides the existing ones under
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ast/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/da/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/eu/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/gd/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/pl/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ko/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/nb/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/sv/3.4.1
>
I think the consensus/suggestion from infra was YES to all the above. Just
add the new languages in to the existing incubator "dist" area despite the
fact that we are no longer in incubation.
>
> With the next release AOO 4.0 we will have a new name without
> "incubating" and I plan to reorganize the directory structure to
> simplify it.
Yes.
> I know we had a discussion about it in the past and I will
> continue there or will start a new thread on this topic separately.
OK, good...we need to go over this again. And Sourceforge needs a heads up
as well I think.
> I
> would like to plan this asap to be prepared and to have enough time to
> adapt the download scripts etc.
>
> Juergen
>
>
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Re: "dist" move...
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 01/11/2013 11:41 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 12/6/12 10:18 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 12/6/2012 9:40 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Herbert Duerr<hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 06.12.2012 00:03, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>> I put in a request, as part of our graduation process, to have our
>>>>>> "dist" area moved to a top level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INFRA-5607
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5607
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue is requesting a move to http://www.apache.org/dist/ooo, but
>>>>> shouldn't this better be named */openoffice (or */aoo)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Herbert
>>>> Herbert -- see comments by Henk on the ticket. It does appear that
>>>> /dist/openoffice will be the new top-level name for our *next* release
>>>> -- nothing will be moved now. Perhaps this was already communicated to
>>>> infra and I was not aware of it.
>>>>
>>>> Also, of more immediate concern is the archiving of the 3.4.0 source
>>>> release and possibly the 3.3. patch.
>>>>
>>> All of this is driven by the nature of /dist/, how it is mirrored outside Apache, and the pretty substantial resources taken up by our release.
>>> There are consequences to moving something once it is there - some mirrors might end up with both areas mirrored, for example.
>>> The best way to resolve that (in the opinion of infra - AIUI) is to move the location on our next release, this allows for planing of resources and the notification of the mirror network. It seems a reasonable approach to me.
>>
>> This is the direction the comments are going in Kay's issue.
>>
>> Since the 3.4.1 Language packs are supplements to the 3.4.1 source release and will have incubator branding they will go into the incubator/ooo/ location.
>>
>> Some might think that we should be doing a full 3.4.2 with non-incubator branding, but no real need IMO.
>>
>
> What does it mean for our upcoming respin of AOO 3.4.1? Taking the
> discussion into account I plan to do the following.
>
> 1. copy the new src release ("") to
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/3.4.1/source besides the former 3.4.1
> src release. Please notice that the name includes now a revision number.
Ah, thanks for the reminder.
> 2. copy the the new binaries besides the existing ones under
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ast/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/da/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/eu/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/gd/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/pl/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ko/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/nb/3.4.1
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/sv/3.4.1
OK
> With the next release AOO 4.0 we will have a new name without
> "incubating" and I plan to reorganize the directory structure to
> simplify it. I know we had a discussion about it in the past and I will
> continue there or will start a new thread on this topic separately. I
> would like to plan this asap to be prepared and to have enough time to
> adapt the download scripts etc.
Please have a look here to see the work that was done already:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Improvements+for+the+download+webpages#Improvementsforthedownloadwebpages-Reworktostartoverwiththenextbiggerrelease%28AOO3.5%2C4.0%2Cetc.%29
(Part #2)
It should be possible to go on from here.
Marcus