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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Carl Olivier <ca...@unysen.co.uk> on 2005/11/08 11:56:48 UTC
Tomcat WAP/WML
Greetings
This may be a very stupid question, but I am busy researching serving WML
content to WAP devices - from my existing Tomcat (5.0.28) server - from
existing web apps - as the content is shared - standard HTML/HTTP via JSP -
would like to provide a WAP/WML access point to the same site/content.
Has anyone had experience with this - and who would be able to point me in
the right direction?
Thanks in advance,
Carl
Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by Jon Wingfield <jo...@mkodo.com>.
Sure. All the big boys sell gateways. The Nokia gateway seems to be used
(or at least was) a fair bit within the operators themselves.
Here's a Nokia SDK which may be of use:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-741,00.html
The major OSS gateway is kannel (http://www.kannel.org/)
The last time I looked there weren't any mature OSS gateways written in
java. That could have changed though...
Jon
Carl Olivier wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Great. Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though? If you wanted
> to set your own gateway up?
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:jon.wingfield@mkodo.com]
> Sent: 08 November 2005 12:11
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>
> You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they proxy
> the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is valid
> and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the
> rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).
>
> HTH,
>
> Jon
>
> Carl Olivier wrote:
>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Appreciate that.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
>>Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
>>To: Tomcat Users List
>>Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>>
>>Carl Olivier wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>>>gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>>>however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but
>>>I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
>>>to HTTP stack and send to the web server?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see
>>what they have to say about it.
>>
>>t.n.a.
>>
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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by "t.n.a." <tn...@sharanet.org>.
My colleagues directed me to the same site. I guess that should be the
way to go.
t.n.a.
Zohar Amir wrote:
> http://www.kannel.org/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Olivier"
> <ca...@unysen.co.uk>
> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Tomcat WAP/WML
>
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Great. Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though? If you
>> wanted
>> to set your own gateway up?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:jon.wingfield@mkodo.com]
>> Sent: 08 November 2005 12:11
>> To: Tomcat Users List
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>>
>> You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and
>> they proxy
>> the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is
>> valid
>> and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will
>> do the
>> rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> Carl Olivier wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Appreciate that.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
>>> Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
>>> To: Tomcat Users List
>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>>>
>>> Carl Olivier wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>>>> gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>>>> however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but
>>>> I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
>>>> to HTTP stack and send to the web server?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see
>>> what they have to say about it.
>>>
>>> t.n.a.
>>>
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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by Zohar Amir <da...@hotmail.com>.
http://www.kannel.org/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Olivier" <ca...@unysen.co.uk>
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat WAP/WML
> Hi.
>
> Great. Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though? If you wanted
> to set your own gateway up?
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:jon.wingfield@mkodo.com]
> Sent: 08 November 2005 12:11
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>
> You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they
> proxy
> the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is
> valid
> and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the
> rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).
>
> HTH,
>
> Jon
>
> Carl Olivier wrote:
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Appreciate that.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
>> Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
>> To: Tomcat Users List
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>>
>> Carl Olivier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>>>gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>>>however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but
>>>I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
>>>to HTTP stack and send to the web server?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see
>> what they have to say about it.
>>
>> t.n.a.
>>
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RE: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by Carl Olivier <ca...@unysen.co.uk>.
Hi.
Great. Thanks! Is there Gateway software available though? If you wanted
to set your own gateway up?
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Wingfield [mailto:jon.wingfield@mkodo.com]
Sent: 08 November 2005 12:11
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they proxy
the browser request :) You just need to make sure the wml you vend is valid
and sent with the correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the
rest (conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).
HTH,
Jon
Carl Olivier wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Appreciate that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
> Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>
> Carl Olivier wrote:
>
>
>>Hi.
>>
>>Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>>gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>>however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but
>>I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
>>to HTTP stack and send to the web server?
>>
>>
>
> I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see
> what they have to say about it.
>
> t.n.a.
>
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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by Jon Wingfield <jo...@mkodo.com>.
You don't need a WAP gateway. The mobile operator's have them and they
proxy the browser request :)
You just need to make sure the wml you vend is valid and sent with the
correct mime type and the operator's gateway will do the rest
(conversion to wmlc, a wbxml tokenized version of the markup).
HTH,
Jon
Carl Olivier wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Appreciate that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
> Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
>
> Carl Olivier wrote:
>
>
>>Hi.
>>
>>Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>>gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>>however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but
>>I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
>>to HTTP stack and send to the web server?
>>
>>
>
> I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see what they
> have to say about it.
>
> t.n.a.
>
>
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RE: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by Carl Olivier <ca...@unysen.co.uk>.
Thanks!
Appreciate that.
-----Original Message-----
From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
Sent: 08 November 2005 11:54
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Carl Olivier wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but
>I assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck
>to HTTP stack and send to the web server?
>
>
I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see what they
have to say about it.
t.n.a.
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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by "t.n.a." <tn...@sharanet.org>.
Carl Olivier wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
>gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
>however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but I
>assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck to HTTP
>stack and send to the web server?
>
>
I see your point. I'll forward your query to my colleagues and see what
they have to say about it.
t.n.a.
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RE: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by Carl Olivier <ca...@unysen.co.uk>.
Hi.
Thanks for the info - but I was actually wonderin about the whole WAP
gateway - generating the different presentation layers is no problem -
however the protocol handler? Maybe I should go do more reading - but I
assume a WAP gateway is required in order to process the WAP stacck to HTTP
stack and send to the web server?
Thanks.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: t.n.a. [mailto:tna@sharanet.org]
Sent: 08 November 2005 11:44
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Carl Olivier wrote:
>Greetings
>
>This may be a very stupid question, but I am busy researching serving
>WML content to WAP devices - from my existing Tomcat (5.0.28) server -
>from existing web apps - as the content is shared - standard HTML/HTTP
>via JSP - would like to provide a WAP/WML access point to the same
site/content.
>
>Has anyone had experience with this - and who would be able to point me
>in the right direction?
>
>
I've built a small WAP app running on tomcat a couple of months ago. A
couple of my collegues have done just what you sad, built a site that could
serve either HTML or WML, but using PHP.
I don't know what exactly you would like to know more about? Using the same
content for both presentation layers? That shouldn't be too
difficult: generate your docs as XML and build a couple of XSLT
adapters: one for HTML and one for WML.
Regards,
t.n.a.
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Re: Tomcat WAP/WML
Posted by "t.n.a." <tn...@sharanet.org>.
Carl Olivier wrote:
>Greetings
>
>This may be a very stupid question, but I am busy researching serving WML
>content to WAP devices - from my existing Tomcat (5.0.28) server - from
>existing web apps - as the content is shared - standard HTML/HTTP via JSP -
>would like to provide a WAP/WML access point to the same site/content.
>
>Has anyone had experience with this - and who would be able to point me in
>the right direction?
>
>
I've built a small WAP app running on tomcat a couple of months ago. A
couple of my collegues have done just what you sad, built a site that
could serve either HTML or WML, but using PHP.
I don't know what exactly you would like to know more about? Using the
same content for both presentation layers? That shouldn't be too
difficult: generate your docs as XML and build a couple of XSLT
adapters: one for HTML and one for WML.
Regards,
t.n.a.
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