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Posted to general@db.apache.org by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org> on 2003/10/16 14:53:12 UTC
incubation requirements for axion at apache db?
Axion (<http://axion.tigris.org/>) is a Java-based relational database
engine that was among the set of "seed projects" named in the proposal for
Apache DB (<http://db.apache.org/pmc/initial-proposal.txt>).
The Axion team is considering moving to the Apache DB project, and
depending upon the source, there seem to be some conflicting reports on
what exactly that will entail.
The Apache DB bylaws (<http://db.apache.org/management.html>) and
subproject submission guidelines (<http://db.apache.org/newproject.html>)
state that a subproject must be approved by a 3/4 majority Apache DB PMC.
They make no mention of the Apache Incubator project, nor of any specific
incubation process.
(Similarly, by the way, for the Jakarta project bylaws and subproject
submission guidelines.)
Pages on the Incubator site (e.g.,
<http://incubator.apache.org/process.html>), seem to place the incubator
in a central role in the sub-project adoption process, although the
precise process to be followed is apparently neither "complete [n]or
completely authoritative".
The Axion team would like to understand precisely what the incubation
requirements and process, if any, is necessary for a move to the Apache DB
project.
A draft proposal for Axion at Apache DB follows. It includes some
additional background material.
- Rod <http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/>
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Proposal for Creating an Axion sub-project within the Apache DB Project
(0) Rationale and Consideration of Sub-Project Criteria
Axion is a relational database engine currently developed and released
under an Apache/BSD-like license.
While it has not yet had a formal 1.0 release, Axion is not a new project.
Axion has had three binary "milestone" releases, the first of which was
released over a year ago (9 July 2002) [1]. The project has been under
active development since early 2002 [2] and has shown regular and diverse
growth in both the development and user communities.
The Axion team has operated under meritocratic guidelines [3] similar to
and derived from those of the ASF since its inception.
The Axion project has strong personal ties to the Apache community. Many,
indeed most members of the Axion community are contributors or committers
to one or more ASF projects, serve on one or more ASF PMCs or are ASF
members. [4]
The Axion project has strong technical ties to the Apache community.
Axion uses several ASF libraries [5], and as a project, has contributed
code back to those libraries where appropriate [6]. Some existing ASF
projects use or support Axion currently, others have expressed an interest
in doing so (notably the Apache Directory Project).
Similarly, many current ASF projects could advantage of a robust,
ASF-licensed Java database engine and there several projects with which
Axion could collaborate on infrastructural components.
(1) Scope
The project will create and maintain a (primarily relational) database
engine and related utilities, to be distributed under an ASF-license.
(2) Initial Source
The initial source of the project will be the material currently available
from <http://axion.tigris.org/>. This source is currently available under
an ASF-style license, and the community has elected to migrate to an ASF
license.
(3) Apache DB Resources to be Created
(3.1) Mailing Lists
* axion-dev@db.apache.org
* axion-user@db.apache.org
(perhaps others as needed)
(3.2) Version Control Repository
* cvs/db-axion on cvs.apache.org
(3.3) Web Site
* http://db.apache.org/axion/
(3.4) Other
Issue tracking (bugzilla), email archive (eyebrowse), etc. entries as
appropriate.
(4) Initial Set of Committers
The initial set of committers will the same as that of the Axion project
at Tigris at the time of the move. See
<http://axion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList>.
(A) End Notes
[1] <http://axion.tigris.org/releases/index.html>
[2] <http://axion.tigris.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=cvs>
[3] <http://axion.tigris.org/guidelines.html>
[4] Compare those with the "Developer" role or stronger at
<http://axion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList>, or the list at
<http://axion.tigris.org/unbranded-source/browse/*checkout*/axion/LICENSE.txt?rev=HEAD>
with <http://www.apache.org/~jim/committers.html>
[5] Currently Axion uses 8 external libraries when you include required
and optional build, test and run-time dependencies. Of these, 6 are ASF
libraries (Ant, Jakarta-Commons-Codec, Jakarta-Commons-Collections,
Jakarta-Commons-Logging, Jakarta-Regexp, Maven).
[6] Most notably, the org.apache.commons.collections.primitives.* package,
which was initially developed within Axion then contributed to
Jakarta-Commons, although there have been other less substantial
enhancements and contributions.
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Re: [binarycloud-dev] Re: incubation requirements for axion at
apache db?
Posted by alex black <en...@turingstudio.com>.
Forgive my ignorance, but why was the binarycloud development list cc:d on
this message?
Though, I do find it interesting :)
Thanks!
_alex
> Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> ...
>> The Apache DB bylaws (<http://db.apache.org/management.html>) and
>> subproject submission guidelines (<http://db.apache.org/newproject.html>)
>> state that a subproject must be approved by a 3/4 majority Apache DB PMC.
>> They make no mention of the Apache Incubator project, nor of any specific
>> incubation process.
> ...
>> Pages on the Incubator site (e.g.,
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/process.html>), seem to place the incubator
>> in a central role in the sub-project adoption process
>
> They are both correct. We are in the process of updating the website and
> the process, so I'll outline it briefly here.
>
> The incubation process, WRT responsibilities, is as follows:
>
> 1 - Any Apache PMC (project management commitee) or the Apache board
> approves the entrance of a project at Apache. They are the Sponsoring
> Entity.
>
> 2 - The Incubator is from that moment on responsible for the project,
> which will remain so till the Incubator votes for it to be "graduated"
> to the PMC that asked for it. If the PMC was the Incubator itself or the
> board, the project will have its own PMC.
>
> 3 - Incubation complete.
>
>> The Axion team would like to understand precisely what the incubation
>> requirements and process, if any, is necessary for a move to the Apache DB
>> project.
>
> Ok.
>
> So, since you would like to have a place under the DB Project, ask there
> to vote for acceptance. After that vote, you will automatically be under
> the Incubator, and incubation will take place.
>
> You will then need a Mentor, that has to be an Apache member, that will
> be responsible for your project and become part of this PMC for all the
> incubation.
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Re: incubation requirements for axion at apache db?
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
...
> The Apache DB bylaws (<http://db.apache.org/management.html>) and
> subproject submission guidelines (<http://db.apache.org/newproject.html>)
> state that a subproject must be approved by a 3/4 majority Apache DB PMC.
> They make no mention of the Apache Incubator project, nor of any specific
> incubation process.
...
> Pages on the Incubator site (e.g.,
> <http://incubator.apache.org/process.html>), seem to place the incubator
> in a central role in the sub-project adoption process
They are both correct. We are in the process of updating the website and
the process, so I'll outline it briefly here.
The incubation process, WRT responsibilities, is as follows:
1 - Any Apache PMC (project management commitee) or the Apache board
approves the entrance of a project at Apache. They are the Sponsoring
Entity.
2 - The Incubator is from that moment on responsible for the project,
which will remain so till the Incubator votes for it to be "graduated"
to the PMC that asked for it. If the PMC was the Incubator itself or the
board, the project will have its own PMC.
3 - Incubation complete.
> The Axion team would like to understand precisely what the incubation
> requirements and process, if any, is necessary for a move to the Apache DB
> project.
Ok.
So, since you would like to have a place under the DB Project, ask there
to vote for acceptance. After that vote, you will automatically be under
the Incubator, and incubation will take place.
You will then need a Mentor, that has to be an Apache member, that will
be responsible for your project and become part of this PMC for all the
incubation.
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
- verba volant, scripta manent -
(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: incubation requirements for axion at apache db?
Posted by Brian McCallister <mc...@forthillcompany.com>.
I was wondering when this would happen.
I *think* entrance route is through the incubator with the intended
exit into the db pmc.
-Brian
On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 08:53 AM, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> Axion (<http://axion.tigris.org/>) is a Java-based relational database
> engine that was among the set of "seed projects" named in the proposal
> for
> Apache DB (<http://db.apache.org/pmc/initial-proposal.txt>).
>
> The Axion team is considering moving to the Apache DB project, and
> depending upon the source, there seem to be some conflicting reports on
> what exactly that will entail.
>
> The Apache DB bylaws (<http://db.apache.org/management.html>) and
> subproject submission guidelines
> (<http://db.apache.org/newproject.html>)
> state that a subproject must be approved by a 3/4 majority Apache DB
> PMC.
> They make no mention of the Apache Incubator project, nor of any
> specific
> incubation process.
>
> (Similarly, by the way, for the Jakarta project bylaws and subproject
> submission guidelines.)
>
> Pages on the Incubator site (e.g.,
> <http://incubator.apache.org/process.html>), seem to place the
> incubator
> in a central role in the sub-project adoption process, although the
> precise process to be followed is apparently neither "complete [n]or
> completely authoritative".
>
> The Axion team would like to understand precisely what the incubation
> requirements and process, if any, is necessary for a move to the
> Apache DB
> project.
>
> A draft proposal for Axion at Apache DB follows. It includes some
> additional background material.
>
> - Rod <http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/>
>
> --------------
> Proposal for Creating an Axion sub-project within the Apache DB Project
>
> (0) Rationale and Consideration of Sub-Project Criteria
>
> Axion is a relational database engine currently developed and released
> under an Apache/BSD-like license.
>
> While it has not yet had a formal 1.0 release, Axion is not a new
> project.
> Axion has had three binary "milestone" releases, the first of which was
> released over a year ago (9 July 2002) [1]. The project has been under
> active development since early 2002 [2] and has shown regular and
> diverse
> growth in both the development and user communities.
>
> The Axion team has operated under meritocratic guidelines [3] similar
> to
> and derived from those of the ASF since its inception.
>
> The Axion project has strong personal ties to the Apache community.
> Many,
> indeed most members of the Axion community are contributors or
> committers
> to one or more ASF projects, serve on one or more ASF PMCs or are ASF
> members. [4]
>
> The Axion project has strong technical ties to the Apache community.
> Axion uses several ASF libraries [5], and as a project, has contributed
> code back to those libraries where appropriate [6]. Some existing ASF
> projects use or support Axion currently, others have expressed an
> interest
> in doing so (notably the Apache Directory Project).
>
> Similarly, many current ASF projects could advantage of a robust,
> ASF-licensed Java database engine and there several projects with which
> Axion could collaborate on infrastructural components.
>
> (1) Scope
>
> The project will create and maintain a (primarily relational) database
> engine and related utilities, to be distributed under an ASF-license.
>
> (2) Initial Source
>
> The initial source of the project will be the material currently
> available
> from <http://axion.tigris.org/>. This source is currently available
> under
> an ASF-style license, and the community has elected to migrate to an
> ASF
> license.
>
> (3) Apache DB Resources to be Created
>
> (3.1) Mailing Lists
>
> * axion-dev@db.apache.org
> * axion-user@db.apache.org
>
> (perhaps others as needed)
>
> (3.2) Version Control Repository
>
> * cvs/db-axion on cvs.apache.org
>
> (3.3) Web Site
>
> * http://db.apache.org/axion/
>
> (3.4) Other
>
> Issue tracking (bugzilla), email archive (eyebrowse), etc. entries as
> appropriate.
>
> (4) Initial Set of Committers
>
> The initial set of committers will the same as that of the Axion
> project
> at Tigris at the time of the move. See
> <http://axion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList>.
>
> (A) End Notes
>
> [1] <http://axion.tigris.org/releases/index.html>
> [2] <http://axion.tigris.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=cvs>
> [3] <http://axion.tigris.org/guidelines.html>
> [4] Compare those with the "Developer" role or stronger at
> <http://axion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList>, or the list at
> <http://axion.tigris.org/unbranded-source/browse/*checkout*/axion/
> LICENSE.txt?rev=HEAD>
> with <http://www.apache.org/~jim/committers.html>
> [5] Currently Axion uses 8 external libraries when you include required
> and optional build, test and run-time dependencies. Of these, 6 are ASF
> libraries (Ant, Jakarta-Commons-Codec, Jakarta-Commons-Collections,
> Jakarta-Commons-Logging, Jakarta-Regexp, Maven).
> [6] Most notably, the org.apache.commons.collections.primitives.*
> package,
> which was initially developed within Axion then contributed to
> Jakarta-Commons, although there have been other less substantial
> enhancements and contributions.
> ---------------
>
>