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Posted to dev@accumulo.apache.org by Billie J Rinaldi <bi...@ugov.gov> on 2011/11/15 15:11:09 UTC
new developer
Alan,
Please add skuehn to the accumulo-developers group on JIRA. He has submitted a patch for ACCUMULO-19.
Billie
Re: new developer
Posted by Todd Lipcon <to...@cloudera.com>.
Just another perspective: over in Hadoop/HBase land, we thank the
contributor on the JIRA (whether it's their first JIRA or hundredth)
but don't announce new contributors. We've got several hundred
contributors so the mailing list traffic would be pretty tiresome. So
there's no ASF-wide rule on this - do what's practical and feels
right, IMO.
-Todd
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:24 AM, <mv...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Here is some background about how other projects treat the issue of contributors and committers. Generally, contributions and elevations of developers to committer status are widely publicized. This is done for a few reasons, the most important of which is to publicly thank the developer for thier hard work. On most Apache Projects, getting a contributor status is done after a developer contributes a patch for documentation or actual code.
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> Committer status usually takes much longer because the PMC's need to trust that the developer won't muck up the codebase. Additionally, there is the concern about "drive by committers". This is someone that only contributes to a project until they get committer status, and then upon achieving that goal doesn't continue to contribute. Each project has its own rules for granting someone "karma" (committer status) but generally speaking, it is only done after a long period of time in which the developer contributes patches that allow the PMC to get to understand how the person codes, unit-tests, and if their contributions are strong. Even then, many projects won't grant committer status until after a developer has contributed a something major to the project, such as a high-level piece of functionality. Again, how contributors are granted karma is something each PMC handles individually, with the only stipulation being that new committers are reflected in the project's quarterly report.
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> For new project like Accumulo that has a strong core of committers, the Apache Software Foundation has a mentorship program. In this program, existing committers to a project join the ASF Mentorship group. Then, when a contributor is identified as a candidate for karma, they work with a mentor to create a mentorship agreement. This agreement outlines the expectations for the contributor and mentor. After the mentorship is complete, the PMC has a good understanding of how the contributor works, their coding ability, and trustworthiness, and whether or not they want to grant committer status to the contributor.
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> In many projects, it is common to see a person granted karma, and soon therafter for them to be voted onto the PMC of that project if they continue to make strong contributions to the codebase.
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>
> To: accumulo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:04:31 AM
> Subject: Re: new developer
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> On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Billie J Rinaldi wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:47:46 AM, "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>:
>>> Yeah, can you check to see if you have admin rights to manage that
>>> group?
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>> I do! Oops. :) In the future, do you think I should make an announcement when I add someone?
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> That's a good idea. When in doubt, err on the side of over broadcasting. :)
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> Regards,
> Alan
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Todd Lipcon
Software Engineer, Cloudera
Re: new developer
Posted by mv...@comcast.net.
Billie,
Here is some background about how other projects treat the issue of contributors and committers. Generally, contributions and elevations of developers to committer status are widely publicized. This is done for a few reasons, the most important of which is to publicly thank the developer for thier hard work. On most Apache Projects, getting a contributor status is done after a developer contributes a patch for documentation or actual code.
Committer status usually takes much longer because the PMC's need to trust that the developer won't muck up the codebase. Additionally, there is the concern about "drive by committers". This is someone that only contributes to a project until they get committer status, and then upon achieving that goal doesn't continue to contribute. Each project has its own rules for granting someone "karma" (committer status) but generally speaking, it is only done after a long period of time in which the developer contributes patches that allow the PMC to get to understand how the person codes, unit-tests, and if their contributions are strong. Even then, many projects won't grant committer status until after a developer has contributed a something major to the project, such as a high-level piece of functionality. Again, how contributors are granted karma is something each PMC handles individually, with the only stipulation being that new committers are reflected in the project's quarterly report.
For new project like Accumulo that has a strong core of committers, the Apache Software Foundation has a mentorship program. In this program, existing committers to a project join the ASF Mentorship group. Then, when a contributor is identified as a candidate for karma, they work with a mentor to create a mentorship agreement. This agreement outlines the expectations for the contributor and mentor. After the mentorship is complete, the PMC has a good understanding of how the contributor works, their coding ability, and trustworthiness, and whether or not they want to grant committer status to the contributor.
In many projects, it is common to see a person granted karma, and soon therafter for them to be voted onto the PMC of that project if they continue to make strong contributions to the codebase.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>
To: accumulo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:04:31 AM
Subject: Re: new developer
On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Billie J Rinaldi wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:47:46 AM, "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>:
>> Yeah, can you check to see if you have admin rights to manage that
>> group?
>
> I do! Oops. :) In the future, do you think I should make an announcement when I add someone?
That's a good idea. When in doubt, err on the side of over broadcasting. :)
Regards,
Alan
Re: new developer
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Billie J Rinaldi wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:47:46 AM, "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>:
>> Yeah, can you check to see if you have admin rights to manage that
>> group?
>
> I do! Oops. :) In the future, do you think I should make an announcement when I add someone?
That's a good idea. When in doubt, err on the side of over broadcasting. :)
Regards,
Alan
Re: new developer
Posted by Billie J Rinaldi <bi...@ugov.gov>.
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:47:46 AM, "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>:
> Yeah, can you check to see if you have admin rights to manage that
> group?
I do! Oops. :) In the future, do you think I should make an announcement when I add someone?
Billie
Re: new developer
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Billie J Rinaldi wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:29:47 AM, "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>:
>> I added him to the contributor's group. Is there a reason he needs to
>> be on the accumulo-developers group?
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> No, that's perfect. I didn't realize we had a separate group for contributors. Thanks!
Yeah, can you check to see if you have admin rights to manage that group?
Regards,
Alan
Re: new developer
Posted by Billie J Rinaldi <bi...@ugov.gov>.
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:29:47 AM, "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>:
> I added him to the contributor's group. Is there a reason he needs to
> be on the accumulo-developers group?
No, that's perfect. I didn't realize we had a separate group for contributors. Thanks!
Billie
Re: new developer
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Nov 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Billie J Rinaldi wrote:
> Alan,
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> Please add skuehn to the accumulo-developers group on JIRA. He has submitted a patch for ACCUMULO-19.
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> Billie
I added him to the contributor's group. Is there a reason he needs to be on the accumulo-developers group?
Regards,
Alan