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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> on 2012/07/10 08:54:13 UTC
About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Hi,
We expect the IPMC to be notified of many ongoing podling votes, and
recently an increasingly common pattern for doing so has been to cc
the relevant Incubator-wide mailing list, general@ or private@.
This is a bit troublesome as it ends up with people sending their
votes to multiple lists and at least in some cases to it being unclear
where the vote is actually happening.
So instead of using cc for notification purposes, I'd recommend people
to send the original vote message *only* to the original target list
and then *forward* a copy to the relevant Incubator-wide list.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Thanks a lot for the feedback Greg, very appreciated!!!
all the best, have a nice day,
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No worries, Simone. Not your issue at all.
>
> The private@incubator.a.o list has recently seen a huge influx of voting
> emails. I'm not surprised to see Jukka provide some guidance.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
> On Jul 10, 2012 9:16 AM, "Simone Tripodi" <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jukka,
>>
>> it sounds like a good approach and apologize for my VOTE thread...
>> just applied the wrong pattern :P
>>
>> Thanks a lot, have a nice day!
>> -Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We expect the IPMC to be notified of many ongoing podling votes, and
>> > recently an increasingly common pattern for doing so has been to cc
>> > the relevant Incubator-wide mailing list, general@ or private@.
>> >
>> > This is a bit troublesome as it ends up with people sending their
>> > votes to multiple lists and at least in some cases to it being unclear
>> > where the vote is actually happening.
>> >
>> > So instead of using cc for notification purposes, I'd recommend people
>> > to send the original vote message *only* to the original target list
>> > and then *forward* a copy to the relevant Incubator-wide list.
>> >
>> > BR,
>> >
>> > Jukka Zitting
>> >
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Re: About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
No worries, Simone. Not your issue at all.
The private@incubator.a.o list has recently seen a huge influx of voting
emails. I'm not surprised to see Jukka provide some guidance.
Cheers,
-g
On Jul 10, 2012 9:16 AM, "Simone Tripodi" <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Jukka,
>
> it sounds like a good approach and apologize for my VOTE thread...
> just applied the wrong pattern :P
>
> Thanks a lot, have a nice day!
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We expect the IPMC to be notified of many ongoing podling votes, and
> > recently an increasingly common pattern for doing so has been to cc
> > the relevant Incubator-wide mailing list, general@ or private@.
> >
> > This is a bit troublesome as it ends up with people sending their
> > votes to multiple lists and at least in some cases to it being unclear
> > where the vote is actually happening.
> >
> > So instead of using cc for notification purposes, I'd recommend people
> > to send the original vote message *only* to the original target list
> > and then *forward* a copy to the relevant Incubator-wide list.
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
>
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Re: About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Jukka,
it sounds like a good approach and apologize for my VOTE thread...
just applied the wrong pattern :P
Thanks a lot, have a nice day!
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We expect the IPMC to be notified of many ongoing podling votes, and
> recently an increasingly common pattern for doing so has been to cc
> the relevant Incubator-wide mailing list, general@ or private@.
>
> This is a bit troublesome as it ends up with people sending their
> votes to multiple lists and at least in some cases to it being unclear
> where the vote is actually happening.
>
> So instead of using cc for notification purposes, I'd recommend people
> to send the original vote message *only* to the original target list
> and then *forward* a copy to the relevant Incubator-wide list.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Carol Frampton wrote on Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:33:49 -0700:
>> I'm not sure what case you are describing. I'm the release manager for
>> the first release of Apache Flex. There is a vote going on now on
>> flex-dev@incubator.apache.org for the release candidate. I read that once
>> we close that vote I am suppose to notify general@incubator of the result
>> and another vote with the IPMC members starts on general@incubator. When
>> does the forwarded email come into play?
>
> I assume Jukka was referring to committer/PPMC invitation votes.
Yes.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Carol Frampton wrote on Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:33:49 -0700:
>
>
> On 7/10/12 2 :54AM, "Jukka Zitting" <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >We expect the IPMC to be notified of many ongoing podling votes, and
> >recently an increasingly common pattern for doing so has been to cc
> >the relevant Incubator-wide mailing list, general@ or private@.
> >
> >This is a bit troublesome as it ends up with people sending their
> >votes to multiple lists and at least in some cases to it being unclear
> >where the vote is actually happening.
> >
> >So instead of using cc for notification purposes, I'd recommend people
> >to send the original vote message *only* to the original target list
> >and then *forward* a copy to the relevant Incubator-wide list.
>
> I'm not sure what case you are describing. I'm the release manager for
> the first release of Apache Flex. There is a vote going on now on
> flex-dev@incubator.apache.org for the release candidate. I read that once
> we close that vote I am suppose to notify general@incubator of the result
> and another vote with the IPMC members starts on general@incubator. When
> does the forwarded email come into play?
>
I assume Jukka was referring to committer/PPMC invitation votes.
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Re: About cc'ing general@ or private@ in votes
Posted by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>.
On 7/10/12 2 :54AM, "Jukka Zitting" <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We expect the IPMC to be notified of many ongoing podling votes, and
>recently an increasingly common pattern for doing so has been to cc
>the relevant Incubator-wide mailing list, general@ or private@.
>
>This is a bit troublesome as it ends up with people sending their
>votes to multiple lists and at least in some cases to it being unclear
>where the vote is actually happening.
>
>So instead of using cc for notification purposes, I'd recommend people
>to send the original vote message *only* to the original target list
>and then *forward* a copy to the relevant Incubator-wide list.
I'm not sure what case you are describing. I'm the release manager for
the first release of Apache Flex. There is a vote going on now on
flex-dev@incubator.apache.org for the release candidate. I read that once
we close that vote I am suppose to notify general@incubator of the result
and another vote with the IPMC members starts on general@incubator. When
does the forwarded email come into play?
Carol
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