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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org> on 2016/03/01 00:30:30 UTC
RE: Copyright sign offs
Henri,
I did a quick look at the odftoolkit repository and the podling page.
The odftoolkit project was originally under ALv2. The code still carries Copyright notices on the individual files and the ALv2 license statement has not been updated/replaced by the current one mentioning contribution to the ASF, etc.
In passing, I notice a peculiarity of the incubator page,
<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html>. I'm certain I was never on the PPMC and I don't think I was a committer either, unless it is transitive via incubator (a change since 2012?). My impression was that the PPMC was rather small. I have no idea what its current membership is.
There has been recent maintenance on the source code, some working against JIRA issues, as reported in the February 2016 Incubator Report.
- Dennis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 17:28
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Copyright sign offs
>
> Haven't done this in a while :)
>
> Thought I'd share that the following podlings have not yet signed off on
> their Copyright sections in their status reports. I mention this because
> I
> believe it's one of the first elements that should be signed off on the
> status report and it's a worry if projects have not done so:
>
> cmda
> datafu
> horn
> johnzon
> odftoolkit
[ ... ]
>
> I'd be interested to hear about any reasons why the above aren't able to
> sign that element of their status file off.
[ ... ]
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RE: Copyright sign offs
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
There are two checklist items:
Is the software grant received and cover the (majority?) of the code? (In
which case those files should get the ASF header). This was presumably done
a while ago, so just find the date from email archives to private@odfdom
when the ASF secretary confirmed
The second point is about any third-party source code in the repository
which was NOT covered by that grant. For odfdom one example is the OASIS
schema files. This can be signed off when they have been checked to be OK
and accounted for (ideally in LICENCE/NOTICE files, but at least in their
headers.)
BTW, the OASIS files are against ASF policy as they have a no-modifications
clause: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODFTOOLKIT-419
-- but technically they are "legal to distribute" as you have not modified
them. Thus you can backdate the second item as well to when this was
checked.
On 1 Mar 2016 06:06, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 18:43
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: Dennis Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
> > Subject: Re: Copyright sign offs
> >
> > Is 'it was already under Apache 2.0' typically taken to cover:
> >
> > "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
> > been
> > received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the
> > core
> > code, and any new code produced by the project."
> >
> > ?
> [orcmid]
>
> No, I don't take it to cover that. I think it is more like speaking of
> third-party code that bears ALv2 license notices already.
>
> [Also "rights" and "transfer" are rather vague and potentially
> over-broad. I have no interest in haggling about that. All I am
> suggesting is that the original files do not appear to be transposed to
> having the form of notice preferred by the ASF. Having not been on the
> PPMC, I have no idea what grants were received in any form.]
>
> >
> > Hen
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dennis,
> > >
> > > For some reason, Oliver Rau added you in this commit
> > >
> > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/od
> > ftoolkit.xml?r1=1296007&r2=1531246
> > > If you don't belong, you should be able to remove yourself.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:30 PM Dennis E. Hamilton <
> > > dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Henri,
> > > >
> > > > I did a quick look at the odftoolkit repository and the podling
> > page.
> > > >
> > > > The odftoolkit project was originally under ALv2. The code still
> > carries
> > > > Copyright notices on the individual files and the ALv2 license
> > statement
> > > > has not been updated/replaced by the current one mentioning
> > contribution
> > > to
> > > > the ASF, etc.
> > > >
> > > > In passing, I notice a peculiarity of the incubator page,
> > > > <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html>. I'm certain
> > I
> > > > was never on the PPMC and I don't think I was a committer either,
> > unless
> > > it
> > > > is transitive via incubator (a change since 2012?). My impression
> > was
> > > that
> > > > the PPMC was rather small. I have no idea what its current
> > membership
> > > is.
> > > >
> > > > There has been recent maintenance on the source code, some working
> > > against
> > > > JIRA issues, as reported in the February 2016 Incubator Report.
> > > >
> > > > - Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 17:28
> > > > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Copyright sign offs
> > > > >
> > > > > Haven't done this in a while :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thought I'd share that the following podlings have not yet signed
> > off
> > > on
> > > > > their Copyright sections in their status reports. I mention this
> > > because
> > > > > I
> > > > > believe it's one of the first elements that should be signed off
> > on the
> > > > > status report and it's a worry if projects have not done so:
> > > > >
> > > > > cmda
> > > > > datafu
> > > > > horn
> > > > > johnzon
> > > > > odftoolkit
> > > > [ ... ]
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be interested to hear about any reasons why the above aren't
> > able
> > > to
> > > > > sign that element of their status file off.
> > > > [ ... ]
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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RE: Copyright sign offs
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 18:43
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Dennis Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
> Subject: Re: Copyright sign offs
>
> Is 'it was already under Apache 2.0' typically taken to cover:
>
> "Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
> been
> received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the
> core
> code, and any new code produced by the project."
>
> ?
[orcmid]
No, I don't take it to cover that. I think it is more like speaking of third-party code that bears ALv2 license notices already.
[Also "rights" and "transfer" are rather vague and potentially over-broad. I have no interest in haggling about that. All I am suggesting is that the original files do not appear to be transposed to having the form of notice preferred by the ASF. Having not been on the PPMC, I have no idea what grants were received in any form.]
>
> Hen
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Dennis,
> >
> > For some reason, Oliver Rau added you in this commit
> >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/od
> ftoolkit.xml?r1=1296007&r2=1531246
> > If you don't belong, you should be able to remove yourself.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:30 PM Dennis E. Hamilton <
> > dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Henri,
> > >
> > > I did a quick look at the odftoolkit repository and the podling
> page.
> > >
> > > The odftoolkit project was originally under ALv2. The code still
> carries
> > > Copyright notices on the individual files and the ALv2 license
> statement
> > > has not been updated/replaced by the current one mentioning
> contribution
> > to
> > > the ASF, etc.
> > >
> > > In passing, I notice a peculiarity of the incubator page,
> > > <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html>. I'm certain
> I
> > > was never on the PPMC and I don't think I was a committer either,
> unless
> > it
> > > is transitive via incubator (a change since 2012?). My impression
> was
> > that
> > > the PPMC was rather small. I have no idea what its current
> membership
> > is.
> > >
> > > There has been recent maintenance on the source code, some working
> > against
> > > JIRA issues, as reported in the February 2016 Incubator Report.
> > >
> > > - Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 17:28
> > > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Copyright sign offs
> > > >
> > > > Haven't done this in a while :)
> > > >
> > > > Thought I'd share that the following podlings have not yet signed
> off
> > on
> > > > their Copyright sections in their status reports. I mention this
> > because
> > > > I
> > > > believe it's one of the first elements that should be signed off
> on the
> > > > status report and it's a worry if projects have not done so:
> > > >
> > > > cmda
> > > > datafu
> > > > horn
> > > > johnzon
> > > > odftoolkit
> > > [ ... ]
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested to hear about any reasons why the above aren't
> able
> > to
> > > > sign that element of their status file off.
> > > [ ... ]
> > >
> > >
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> -
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Copyright sign offs
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@apache.org>.
Is 'it was already under Apache 2.0' typically taken to cover:
"Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been
received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core
code, and any new code produced by the project."
?
Hen
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> For some reason, Oliver Rau added you in this commit
>
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/odftoolkit.xml?r1=1296007&r2=1531246
> If you don't belong, you should be able to remove yourself.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:30 PM Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Henri,
> >
> > I did a quick look at the odftoolkit repository and the podling page.
> >
> > The odftoolkit project was originally under ALv2. The code still carries
> > Copyright notices on the individual files and the ALv2 license statement
> > has not been updated/replaced by the current one mentioning contribution
> to
> > the ASF, etc.
> >
> > In passing, I notice a peculiarity of the incubator page,
> > <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html>. I'm certain I
> > was never on the PPMC and I don't think I was a committer either, unless
> it
> > is transitive via incubator (a change since 2012?). My impression was
> that
> > the PPMC was rather small. I have no idea what its current membership
> is.
> >
> > There has been recent maintenance on the source code, some working
> against
> > JIRA issues, as reported in the February 2016 Incubator Report.
> >
> > - Dennis
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 17:28
> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Copyright sign offs
> > >
> > > Haven't done this in a while :)
> > >
> > > Thought I'd share that the following podlings have not yet signed off
> on
> > > their Copyright sections in their status reports. I mention this
> because
> > > I
> > > believe it's one of the first elements that should be signed off on the
> > > status report and it's a worry if projects have not done so:
> > >
> > > cmda
> > > datafu
> > > horn
> > > johnzon
> > > odftoolkit
> > [ ... ]
> > >
> > > I'd be interested to hear about any reasons why the above aren't able
> to
> > > sign that element of their status file off.
> > [ ... ]
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
>
Re: Copyright sign offs
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Dennis,
For some reason, Oliver Rau added you in this commit
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/odftoolkit.xml?r1=1296007&r2=1531246
If you don't belong, you should be able to remove yourself.
John
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:30 PM Dennis E. Hamilton <de...@acm.org>
wrote:
> Henri,
>
> I did a quick look at the odftoolkit repository and the podling page.
>
> The odftoolkit project was originally under ALv2. The code still carries
> Copyright notices on the individual files and the ALv2 license statement
> has not been updated/replaced by the current one mentioning contribution to
> the ASF, etc.
>
> In passing, I notice a peculiarity of the incubator page,
> <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html>. I'm certain I
> was never on the PPMC and I don't think I was a committer either, unless it
> is transitive via incubator (a change since 2012?). My impression was that
> the PPMC was rather small. I have no idea what its current membership is.
>
> There has been recent maintenance on the source code, some working against
> JIRA issues, as reported in the February 2016 Incubator Report.
>
> - Dennis
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 17:28
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Copyright sign offs
> >
> > Haven't done this in a while :)
> >
> > Thought I'd share that the following podlings have not yet signed off on
> > their Copyright sections in their status reports. I mention this because
> > I
> > believe it's one of the first elements that should be signed off on the
> > status report and it's a worry if projects have not done so:
> >
> > cmda
> > datafu
> > horn
> > johnzon
> > odftoolkit
> [ ... ]
> >
> > I'd be interested to hear about any reasons why the above aren't able to
> > sign that element of their status file off.
> [ ... ]
>
>
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