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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com> on 2007/07/03 15:27:27 UTC

[site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html

I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:

start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07

We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at 100%,
we need TCK

also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
"Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java SE 5"

Comments? Other suggestions?

Thanks,
Mikhail

Re: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

Posted by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>.
If there are no objections, I'll update the site

2007/7/3, Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>:
> http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html
>
> I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
> things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:
>
> start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
> start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07
>
> We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
> our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at 100%,
> we need TCK
>
> also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
> "Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java SE 5"
>
> Comments? Other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Mikhail
>

Re: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

Posted by Yang Paulex <pa...@gmail.com>.
2007/7/5, Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>:
>
> Thanks Paulex,
>
> Please review an update here
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-4345


Sounds good to me, thanks, Mikhail.

Thanks,
> Mikhail
>
> 2007/7/5, Yang Paulex <pa...@gmail.com>:
> > 2007/7/3, Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html
> > >
> > > I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
> > > things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure we should remove or modify the words on TCK, I think it's
> still
> > our objectives to pass TCK, and the issue is just we cannot plan it due
> to
> > some reason we cannot control, so why not mention it as notation that
> ASF
> > and Harmony keeps trying to secure TCK license from the Java SE JSR spec
> > lead, and once it's done, we'll add it to the roadmap.  I just don't
> want to
> > make people confuse that Harmony doesn't want to pass TCK any longer.
> >
> > start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
> > > start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07
> > >
> > > We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
> > > our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at
> 100%,
> > > we need TCK
> > >
> > > also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
> > > "Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java
> SE
> > > 5"
> > >
> > > Comments? Other suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mikhail
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paulex Yang
> > China Software Development laboratory
> > IBM
> >
>



-- 
Paulex Yang
China Software Development laboratory
IBM

Re: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

Posted by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Paulex,

Please review an update here

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-4345

Thanks,
Mikhail

2007/7/5, Yang Paulex <pa...@gmail.com>:
> 2007/7/3, Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html
> >
> > I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
> > things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:
>
>
> I'm not sure we should remove or modify the words on TCK, I think it's still
> our objectives to pass TCK, and the issue is just we cannot plan it due to
> some reason we cannot control, so why not mention it as notation that ASF
> and Harmony keeps trying to secure TCK license from the Java SE JSR spec
> lead, and once it's done, we'll add it to the roadmap.  I just don't want to
> make people confuse that Harmony doesn't want to pass TCK any longer.
>
> start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
> > start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07
> >
> > We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
> > our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at 100%,
> > we need TCK
> >
> > also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
> > "Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java SE
> > 5"
> >
> > Comments? Other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mikhail
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Paulex Yang
> China Software Development laboratory
> IBM
>

Re: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

Posted by Yang Paulex <pa...@gmail.com>.
2007/7/3, Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>:
>
> http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html
>
> I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
> things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:


I'm not sure we should remove or modify the words on TCK, I think it's still
our objectives to pass TCK, and the issue is just we cannot plan it due to
some reason we cannot control, so why not mention it as notation that ASF
and Harmony keeps trying to secure TCK license from the Java SE JSR spec
lead, and once it's done, we'll add it to the roadmap.  I just don't want to
make people confuse that Harmony doesn't want to pass TCK any longer.

start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
> start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07
>
> We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
> our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at 100%,
> we need TCK
>
> also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
> "Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java SE
> 5"
>
> Comments? Other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Mikhail
>



-- 
Paulex Yang
China Software Development laboratory
IBM

Re: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

Posted by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>.
I think they should be united, btw, Application Status on wiki is also
out of date

2007/7/3, Morozova, Nadezhda <na...@intel.com>:
>
> A slightly unrelated question:
> How are the roadmap page and the status page
> http://harmony.apache.org/status.html related? do we have to have two?
> It seems the status is really an attempt to set some goals, which is
> what roadmap is also doing.
>
> Cheers,
> Nadya
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mikhail Loenko [mailto:mloenko@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:27 PM
> >To: dev@harmony.apache.org
> >Subject: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date
> >
> >http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html
> >
> >I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
> >things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:
> >
> >start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
> >start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07
> >
> >We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
> >our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at
> 100%,
> >we need TCK
> >
> >also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
> >"Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java
> SE
> >5"
> >
> >Comments? Other suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mikhail
>

RE: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date

Posted by "Morozova, Nadezhda" <na...@intel.com>.
A slightly unrelated question:
How are the roadmap page and the status page
http://harmony.apache.org/status.html related? do we have to have two?
It seems the status is really an attempt to set some goals, which is
what roadmap is also doing. 

Cheers, 
Nadya
 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mikhail Loenko [mailto:mloenko@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:27 PM
>To: dev@harmony.apache.org
>Subject: [site] our roadmap looks a bit out of date
>
>http://harmony.apache.org/roadmap.html
>
>I suggest that we remove mentions of TCKs since we can't control the
>things there and put more general items to the roadmap, like:
>
>start creating stable builds for Java SE 6: Q?'07
>start creating stable builds for x86_64: Q?'07
>
>We probably need to remove items about % of class library coverage:
>our current coverage is close to 100%, but to be sure that we are at
100%,
>we need TCK
>
>also I suggest to drop "5" from the project goal statement:
>"Our project goal is an open source, compatible implementation of Java
SE
>5"
>
>Comments? Other suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Mikhail