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[jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15646836#comment-15646836 ]
Ate Douma edited comment on LEGAL-279 at 11/8/16 7:58 AM:
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Thanks all for the quick turnaround!
[~clr] Can I conclude and resolve this issue with your positive and binding yes on the question?
was (Author: adouma):
Thanks all for the quick turnaround!
[~clr2k] Can I conclude and resolve this issue with your positive and binding yes on the question?
> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
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>
> Key: LEGAL-279
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Ate Douma
>
> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
> {quote}
> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
> {quote}
> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code donation to Apache.
> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor) have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api and implementation).
> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part of the NetBeans core.
> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as platform for other products.
> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as "optional" as explained at \[3].
> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1bcd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced128768f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
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Re: [jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
+1
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 2:58 AM, Ate Douma (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
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> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15646836#comment-15646836 ]
>
> Ate Douma edited comment on LEGAL-279 at 11/8/16 7:58 AM:
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thanks all for the quick turnaround!
> [~clr] Can I conclude and resolve this issue with your positive and binding yes on the question?
>
>
> was (Author: adouma):
> Thanks all for the quick turnaround!
> [~clr2k] Can I conclude and resolve this issue with your positive and binding yes on the question?
>
>> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Key: LEGAL-279
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
>> Project: Legal Discuss
>> Issue Type: Question
>> Reporter: Ate Douma
>>
>> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
>> {quote}
>> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
>> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
>> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
>> {quote}
>> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
>> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code donation to Apache.
>> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor) have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api and implementation).
>> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part of the NetBeans core.
>> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as platform for other products.
>> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as "optional" as explained at \[3].
>> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1bcd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced128768f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
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