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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Ayub Khan <ay...@gmail.com> on 2008/12/18 05:52:07 UTC
htmLib tag library query
Hi,
We are using htmLib tag library listed at
http://www.jsftutorials.net/htmLib/ website.
We are using this tag as it will give us flexibility to design the complex
forms in jsf. We have not found any issues with this tag. However my
architect is suggesting not to use this tag, his argument is that its not a
standard jsf tag and instead use <h:panelGrid> tag.
I am not able to use <h:panelGrid> as it does not give me enough felxibility
on the layout of components.
Could any one let me know their openions here ?
Regards
Ayub
--
-- "Two roads diverged in a wood
And I took the one less traveled by
And that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost....."
Re: htmLib tag library query
Posted by Ayub Khan <ay...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Simon for your openion !!
On 12/19/08, Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Yep, you should definitely ditch htmLib. It's only a workaround for the
> problems JSF1.1+JSP had mixing static and dynamic content. With
> JSF1.2+JSP, this is solved. Or even better, move to Facelets.
>
> That still doesn't solve the original question though: is it better to
> lay out pages using raw html tags or h:panelGrid.
>
> Personally, I would suggest using plain html + CSS is better. The
> h:panelGrid generates html table components for html layout, which is
> generally regarded as being ugly; instead a page's html should represent
> the "meaningful" structure of the data, then CSS style rules should be
> used to control the actual layout on the page. Of course this approach
> does mean
> (a) your team may need to improve their knowledge of CSS, and
> (b) backwards support for old browsers is not so easy (in particular,
> CSS positioning is dodgy in IE6 and completely broken in earlier IE
> versions).
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
> Ali Ok schrieb:
> > Hi Ayub,
> >
> > Main purpose of that library is providing HTML tag flexibility before
> > JSF 1.2. Before JSF 1.2, nonJSF HTML tags should be enclosed in
> > f:verbatim. So, htmLib is helping you writing HTML tags without
> > f:verbatim, because it has most HTML tags as JSF tags.
> >
> > If you are suggested to avoid htmLib, you can use JSF 1.2 compliant
> > MyFaces version and just write HTML tags.
> > Of course there is some limitations. For example, you can't just write
> > a <h:commandButton> inside a <form> instead of <h:form>.
> >
> > Also, you can use Facelets for rendering.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ali
> >
> > 2008/12/18 Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are using htmLib tag library listed at
> > http://www.jsftutorials.net/htmLib/ website.
> >
> > We are using this tag as it will give us flexibility to design the
> > complex forms in jsf. We have not found any issues with this tag.
> > However my architect is suggesting not to use this tag, his
> > argument is that its not a standard jsf tag and instead use
> > <h:panelGrid> tag.
> >
> > I am not able to use <h:panelGrid> as it does not give me enough
> > felxibility on the layout of components.
> >
> > Could any one let me know their openions here ?
> >
> > Regards
> > Ayub
> >
> > --
> > -- "Two roads diverged in a wood
> > And I took the one less traveled by
> > And that has made all the difference.
> >
> > Robert Frost....."
> >
> >
>
>
--
-- "Two roads diverged in a wood
And I took the one less traveled by
And that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost....."
Re: htmLib tag library query
Posted by Simon Kitching <sk...@apache.org>.
Yep, you should definitely ditch htmLib. It's only a workaround for the
problems JSF1.1+JSP had mixing static and dynamic content. With
JSF1.2+JSP, this is solved. Or even better, move to Facelets.
That still doesn't solve the original question though: is it better to
lay out pages using raw html tags or h:panelGrid.
Personally, I would suggest using plain html + CSS is better. The
h:panelGrid generates html table components for html layout, which is
generally regarded as being ugly; instead a page's html should represent
the "meaningful" structure of the data, then CSS style rules should be
used to control the actual layout on the page. Of course this approach
does mean
(a) your team may need to improve their knowledge of CSS, and
(b) backwards support for old browsers is not so easy (in particular,
CSS positioning is dodgy in IE6 and completely broken in earlier IE
versions).
Regards,
Simon
Ali Ok schrieb:
> Hi Ayub,
>
> Main purpose of that library is providing HTML tag flexibility before
> JSF 1.2. Before JSF 1.2, nonJSF HTML tags should be enclosed in
> f:verbatim. So, htmLib is helping you writing HTML tags without
> f:verbatim, because it has most HTML tags as JSF tags.
>
> If you are suggested to avoid htmLib, you can use JSF 1.2 compliant
> MyFaces version and just write HTML tags.
> Of course there is some limitations. For example, you can't just write
> a <h:commandButton> inside a <form> instead of <h:form>.
>
> Also, you can use Facelets for rendering.
>
> Regards,
> Ali
>
> 2008/12/18 Ayub Khan <ayub.hp@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hi,
>
> We are using htmLib tag library listed at
> http://www.jsftutorials.net/htmLib/ website.
>
> We are using this tag as it will give us flexibility to design the
> complex forms in jsf. We have not found any issues with this tag.
> However my architect is suggesting not to use this tag, his
> argument is that its not a standard jsf tag and instead use
> <h:panelGrid> tag.
>
> I am not able to use <h:panelGrid> as it does not give me enough
> felxibility on the layout of components.
>
> Could any one let me know their openions here ?
>
> Regards
> Ayub
>
> --
> -- "Two roads diverged in a wood
> And I took the one less traveled by
> And that has made all the difference.
>
> Robert Frost....."
>
>
Re: htmLib tag library query
Posted by Ali Ok <al...@aliok.info>.
Hi Ayub,
Main purpose of that library is providing HTML tag flexibility before JSF
1.2. Before JSF 1.2, nonJSF HTML tags should be enclosed in f:verbatim. So,
htmLib is helping you writing HTML tags without f:verbatim, because it has
most HTML tags as JSF tags.
If you are suggested to avoid htmLib, you can use JSF 1.2 compliant MyFaces
version and just write HTML tags.
Of course there is some limitations. For example, you can't just write a
<h:commandButton> inside a <form> instead of <h:form>.
Also, you can use Facelets for rendering.
Regards,
Ali
2008/12/18 Ayub Khan <ay...@gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> We are using htmLib tag library listed at
> http://www.jsftutorials.net/htmLib/ website.
>
> We are using this tag as it will give us flexibility to design the complex
> forms in jsf. We have not found any issues with this tag. However my
> architect is suggesting not to use this tag, his argument is that its not a
> standard jsf tag and instead use <h:panelGrid> tag.
>
> I am not able to use <h:panelGrid> as it does not give me enough
> felxibility on the layout of components.
>
> Could any one let me know their openions here ?
> Regards
> Ayub
>
> --
> -- "Two roads diverged in a wood
> And I took the one less traveled by
> And that has made all the difference.
>
> Robert Frost....."
>