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Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Hi QAs and all volunteers,
You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like contribute
to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
system.
Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
Hi,
I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
AOO410 release branch.
Integrated fixes for
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
enough tested.
It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
Juergen
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Re: Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Posted by Marcolongo <gi...@alice.it>.
I downloaded RC3 and I tried to install it. He asked me to close the
program running and quick starter, I had already closed before. The
installation was interrupted.
I continue to work with RC2.
Regards
Gian Paolo Marcolongo
Il 14/04/2014 11:58, Yuzhen Fan ha scritto:
> RC 3 is announced available by Juergen :
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com> wrote:
>
>> Another suggestion:
>> We should aim for smallest code base.
>> The smaller the code is, the better chances an update won't break anything.
>> This can be achieved by:
>> a. removal of non used features
>> b. making less used features available via extensions
>> c. one UI element per task (avoiding duplicates in UI)
>> d. rewriting certain modules more efficiently (i.e. performing the same
>> task with 80 lines of code instead 100 lines of code)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 14:24, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
>>> Hi QAs and all volunteers,
>>>
>>> You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like
>> contribute
>>> to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
>>> installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
>>> Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
>>> To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
>>> AOO410 release branch.
>>>
>>> Integrated fixes for
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
>>>
>>> The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
>>> integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
>>> enough tested.
>>>
>>> It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
>>> all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
>>> the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
>>> manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
>>> planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
>>> try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
>>> code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
>>> stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
>>> received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
>>> we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
>>> since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
>>> release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
>>> I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Yu Zhen
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Re: Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Posted by Yuzhen Fan <fa...@gmail.com>.
RC 3 is announced available by Juergen :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com> wrote:
> Another suggestion:
> We should aim for smallest code base.
> The smaller the code is, the better chances an update won't break anything.
> This can be achieved by:
> a. removal of non used features
> b. making less used features available via extensions
> c. one UI element per task (avoiding duplicates in UI)
> d. rewriting certain modules more efficiently (i.e. performing the same
> task with 80 lines of code instead 100 lines of code)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 14:24, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
> > Hi QAs and all volunteers,
> >
> > You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like
> contribute
> > to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
> > installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
> > system.
> >
> > Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
> > Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
> > To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
> > AOO410 release branch.
> >
> > Integrated fixes for
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
> >
> > The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
> > integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
> > enough tested.
> >
> > It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
> > all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
> > the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
> > manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
> > planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
> > try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
> > code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
> > stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
> > received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
> > we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
> > since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
> > release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
> > I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Yu Zhen
>
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>
>
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Regards,
Yu Zhen
Re: Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Posted by Yuzhen Fan <fa...@gmail.com>.
RC 3 is announced available by Juergen :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com> wrote:
> Another suggestion:
> We should aim for smallest code base.
> The smaller the code is, the better chances an update won't break anything.
> This can be achieved by:
> a. removal of non used features
> b. making less used features available via extensions
> c. one UI element per task (avoiding duplicates in UI)
> d. rewriting certain modules more efficiently (i.e. performing the same
> task with 80 lines of code instead 100 lines of code)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 14:24, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
> > Hi QAs and all volunteers,
> >
> > You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like
> contribute
> > to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
> > installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
> > system.
> >
> > Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
> > Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
> > To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
> > AOO410 release branch.
> >
> > Integrated fixes for
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
> >
> > The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
> > integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
> > enough tested.
> >
> > It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
> > all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
> > the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
> > manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
> > planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
> > try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
> > code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
> > stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
> > received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
> > we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
> > since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
> > release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
> > I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Yu Zhen
>
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>
>
--
Regards,
Yu Zhen
Re: Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Posted by Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com>.
Another suggestion:
We should aim for smallest code base.
The smaller the code is, the better chances an update won't break anything.
This can be achieved by:
a. removal of non used features
b. making less used features available via extensions
c. one UI element per task (avoiding duplicates in UI)
d. rewriting certain modules more efficiently (i.e. performing the same task with 80 lines of code instead 100 lines of code)
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 14:24, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
> Hi QAs and all volunteers,
>
> You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like contribute
> to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
> installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
> system.
>
> Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
> Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
> To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
> AOO410 release branch.
>
> Integrated fixes for
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
>
> The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
> integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
> enough tested.
>
> It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
> all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
> the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
> manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
> planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
> try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
> code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
> stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
> received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
> we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
> since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
> release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
> I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
>
> Juergen
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Yu Zhen
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Re: Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Posted by Marcolongo <gi...@alice.it>.
I'm using RC2 without problems. Win 8.1 64bit
I wait RC3
Regards
Gian Paolo Marcolongo
Il 11/04/2014 13:54, Edwin Sharp ha scritto:
> Thanks Yuzhen!
> Where to download?
> IMHO we need
> alpha feature freeze
> beta feature freeze+fixing freeze
> RC feature freeze+fixing freeze+testing freeze
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 14:24, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
>> Hi QAs and all volunteers,
>>
>> You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like contribute
>> to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
>> installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
>> system.
>>
>> Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
>> Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
>> To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
>> AOO410 release branch.
>>
>> Integrated fixes for
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
>>
>> The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
>> integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
>> enough tested.
>>
>> It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
>> all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
>> the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
>> manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
>> planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
>> try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
>> code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
>> stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
>> received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
>> we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
>> since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
>> release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
>> I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Yu Zhen
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Re: Fwd: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
Posted by Edwin Sharp <el...@mail-page.com>.
Thanks Yuzhen!
Where to download?
IMHO we need
alpha feature freeze
beta feature freeze+fixing freeze
RC feature freeze+fixing freeze+testing freeze
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 14:24, Yuzhen Fan wrote:
> Hi QAs and all volunteers,
>
> You are invited to test this RC3 if you have time and would like contribute
> to the AOO 4.1.0. Please do testing widely and intensively, from
> installation, functions to integration with other applications in your
> system.
>
> Any critical problems you find, please report immediately. Thank you!
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:57 PM
> Subject: [RELEASE]: propose RC3 on revision 1586584
> To: dev <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose a new RC3 based on revision 1586584 of our
> AOO410 release branch.
>
> Integrated fixes for
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124617
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639
>
> The fix for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124636 is not
> integrated because it is not really critical and the fix is not yet well
> enough tested.
>
> It is potentially not understandable for people why we don't integrate
> all available fixes but our experience have shown that even minor and on
> the first look uncritical fixes can cause regressions. As acting release
> manager it is my goal to stabilize the release branch and bring the
> planned release out. I am sometimes to optimistic and over motivated and
> try to push a release. But this time it becomes again clear that our
> code base is tricky and complex and we need probably more time to
> stabilize and test it. We published a Beta with >200000 downloads and
> received no critical feedback which was promising. But with the first RC
> we got several critical issues and partly on code that is in the product
> since last year. I am sure we can do better and the question after the
> release will be how we can improve this. Quality is important for us and
> I invite all to think about ways how we can improve this together.
>
> Juergen
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Yu Zhen
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