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[csv] release 1.0?
Hi All,
It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining corner
issues?
Gary
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Emmanuel Bourg <eb...@apache.org> wrote:
> Le 17/06/2014 15:31, Gary Gregory a écrit :
> >
> > My personal preference would be for type names like CsvFormat and
> > CsvParser, instead f CSVFormat and CSVParser.
>
> My personal preference is for CSV*, that seems to be the most common
> syntax for 3-letters acronyms.
>
> Practically, it's also easier to type "SHIFT down + C + S + V" than
> "SHIFT down + C + SHIFT up + s + v".
>
Talk about truly personal preference! Typing! ;-)
Gary
>
> Emmanuel Bourg
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Emmanuel Bourg <eb...@apache.org>.
Le 17/06/2014 15:31, Gary Gregory a écrit :
>
> My personal preference would be for type names like CsvFormat and
> CsvParser, instead f CSVFormat and CSVParser.
My personal preference is for CSV*, that seems to be the most common
syntax for 3-letters acronyms.
Practically, it's also easier to type "SHIFT down + C + S + V" than
"SHIFT down + C + SHIFT up + s + v".
Emmanuel Bourg
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Colton <co...@sparksis.com> wrote:
> I agree with naming the classes something usable in an IDE(Ide). It also
> tends to make things more readable. Consider CSVToXML vs CsvToXml etc. It's
> not obvious at a glance what the former says.
>
Would you like to use my IBMXMLSAXParser? ;-)
Gary
> On Jun 17, 2014 7:32 AM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
> > >
> >
> > My personal preference would be for type names like CsvFormat and
> > CsvParser, instead f CSVFormat and CSVParser.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > > >>
> > > >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <
> > siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
> > > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi Gary,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Cheers,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Siegfried Goeschl
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi All,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2
> > remaining
> > > >> corner
> > > >> >> issues?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Gary
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
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> > > >> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
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> > > >> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Colton <co...@sparksis.com>.
I agree with naming the classes something usable in an IDE(Ide). It also
tends to make things more readable. Consider CSVToXML vs CsvToXml etc. It's
not obvious at a glance what the former says.
On Jun 17, 2014 7:32 AM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
> >
>
> My personal preference would be for type names like CsvFormat and
> CsvParser, instead f CSVFormat and CSVParser.
>
> Gary
>
>
> > >>
> > >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <
> siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hi Gary,
> > >> >
> > >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> >
> > >> > Siegfried Goeschl
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi All,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2
> remaining
> > >> corner
> > >> >> issues?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Gary
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> > >> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> > >> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
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> > >> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> > >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> > >> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> > >> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> > >> >
> > >> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
>
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
>
My personal preference would be for type names like CsvFormat and
CsvParser, instead f CSVFormat and CSVParser.
Gary
> >>
> >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Gary,
> >> >
> >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Siegfried Goeschl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi All,
> >> >>
> >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> >> >>
> >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
> >> corner
> >> >> issues?
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>.
2014-06-18 0:04 GMT+02:00 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
> On 17 June 2014 14:39, Tillmann Gaida <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I'm a long time user of csv and am eagerly awaiting the 1.0 release.
> > Two major "bugs" are unresolved:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CSV-35 Escaped line separators
> > are not supported
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CSV-58 Unescape handling needs
> rethinking
> >
> > IMHO the first one may be addressed after version 1.0. I feel like any
> > workaround for this issue will still work for any changes that might
> > be made in reaction to it.
>
> That's probably true.
>
> > The second one should in my opinion be resolved before 1.0. I feel
> > like users will be relying strongly on how escaping is handled. I'm
> > not quite sure about the status of the issue, but any escape chars
> > appearing or disappearing in 1.1 would be quite questionable for a
> > component as fundamental as csv parsing and writing. I for one
> > repeatedly chose apache commons-csv not only for the simple API, but
> > for the name as well, which in my head stands for: "don't worry about
> > it. we got this figured out."
>
> I agree, this really needs sorting before a release.
> Although it only affects the behaviour of CSV (not the API), it is
> such a fundamental part of CSV parsing that it really needs to work in
> the first release.
>
The question is: does anybody have the time to work on this issue?
>
> > My personal preference would be Csv* instead of CSV* as well. I am
> > using json-lib as well as gson and I prefer gson's Json* naming over
> > json-libs JSON* naming because it auto-completes a lot faster (JA
> > instead of JSONA for JsonArray/JSONArray if the IDE uses camel-case
> > auto-complete).
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Tillmann Gaida
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
> >> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
> >> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
> >>
> >> - Gabriel
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
> >>>
> >>> But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> And are we sure that the API is OK?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <
> siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Gary,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Cheers,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Siegfried Goeschl
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Hi All,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2
> remaining
> >>>> corner
> >>>> >> issues?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Gary
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >>>> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
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> >>>> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >>>> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >>>> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >>>> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
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> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 17 June 2014 14:39, Tillmann Gaida <ti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm a long time user of csv and am eagerly awaiting the 1.0 release.
> Two major "bugs" are unresolved:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CSV-35 Escaped line separators
> are not supported
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CSV-58 Unescape handling needs rethinking
>
> IMHO the first one may be addressed after version 1.0. I feel like any
> workaround for this issue will still work for any changes that might
> be made in reaction to it.
That's probably true.
> The second one should in my opinion be resolved before 1.0. I feel
> like users will be relying strongly on how escaping is handled. I'm
> not quite sure about the status of the issue, but any escape chars
> appearing or disappearing in 1.1 would be quite questionable for a
> component as fundamental as csv parsing and writing. I for one
> repeatedly chose apache commons-csv not only for the simple API, but
> for the name as well, which in my head stands for: "don't worry about
> it. we got this figured out."
I agree, this really needs sorting before a release.
Although it only affects the behaviour of CSV (not the API), it is
such a fundamental part of CSV parsing that it really needs to work in
the first release.
> My personal preference would be Csv* instead of CSV* as well. I am
> using json-lib as well as gson and I prefer gson's Json* naming over
> json-libs JSON* naming because it auto-completes a lot faster (JA
> instead of JSONA for JsonArray/JSONArray if the IDE uses camel-case
> auto-complete).
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Tillmann Gaida
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
>> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
>> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
>>
>> - Gabriel
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
>>>
>>> But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And are we sure that the API is OK?
>>>>
>>>> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Gary,
>>>> >
>>>> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> >
>>>> > Siegfried Goeschl
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi All,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
>>>> corner
>>>> >> issues?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Gary
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
>>>> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>>>> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>>>> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>>>> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
>>>> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>>>> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
>>>> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>>> >
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Tillmann Gaida <ti...@gmail.com>.
Hi everybody,
I'm a long time user of csv and am eagerly awaiting the 1.0 release.
Two major "bugs" are unresolved:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CSV-35 Escaped line separators
are not supported
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CSV-58 Unescape handling needs rethinking
IMHO the first one may be addressed after version 1.0. I feel like any
workaround for this issue will still work for any changes that might
be made in reaction to it.
The second one should in my opinion be resolved before 1.0. I feel
like users will be relying strongly on how escaping is handled. I'm
not quite sure about the status of the issue, but any escape chars
appearing or disappearing in 1.1 would be quite questionable for a
component as fundamental as csv parsing and writing. I for one
repeatedly chose apache commons-csv not only for the simple API, but
for the name as well, which in my head stands for: "don't worry about
it. we got this figured out."
My personal preference would be Csv* instead of CSV* as well. I am
using json-lib as well as gson and I prefer gson's Json* naming over
json-libs JSON* naming because it auto-completes a lot faster (JA
instead of JSONA for JsonArray/JSONArray if the IDE uses camel-case
auto-complete).
Kind Regards
Tillmann Gaida
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
>>
>> But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And are we sure that the API is OK?
>>>
>>> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Gary,
>>> >
>>> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Siegfried Goeschl
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
>>> >>
>>> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
>>> >>
>>> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
>>> corner
>>> >> issues?
>>> >>
>>> >> Gary
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
>>> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>>> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>>> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>>> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
>>> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>>> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
>>> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
Hello,
I think it is fine to not support record seperators other than EOL. So
as long as it supports (*) CR/LF/CRLF, NEL (U+0085 - mapped from EBCDIC)
and LS (U+2028) it is ok to not require further configuration.
One thing which is however quite common is multi-line field values
(inside quotes).
Gruss
Bernd
* based on XML 1.1 2.11 "End-of-Line handling"
Am Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:06:57 +0200
schrieb Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>:
> 2014-06-30 11:00 GMT+02:00 Tillmann Gaida <ti...@gmail.com>:
>
> > It looks like the two issues revolve around the question if record
> > separators should always be some combination of CR and LF or if they
> > may be more exotic. I think that if someone made the call that
> > commons-csv will not support exotic record separators, both issues
> > could be closed very quickly. I'd support that call since I don't
> > see any use cases for exotic record separators. After all, CSV is a
> > specified format and while some tolerance is required to cover what
> > has become a family of formats, I think that exotic record
> > separators don't play a role here.
> >
>
> Nicely said! I'd support this.
> What do others think?
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Gabriel Reid
> > <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Benedikt Ritter
> > > <br...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Alpha, beta, or GA makes no difference if it's made public
> > >> through maven central. As soon as something is available there,
> > >> people will start to
> > use
> > >> it. This will lead to jar hell, when we decide/have to break BC
> > >> between alpha/beta and GA.
> > >>
> > >> That said I'd just release trunk as 1.0, since nobody among us
> > >> seems to have the ability/time to fix the last outstanding issue.
> > >
> > > +1 to releasing trunk.
> > >
> > > We had a similar discussion about this a couple of months ago. The
> > > fact is that people are using commons-csv now, either by making
> > > their own build or by pulling the commons-csv codebase directly
> > > into their own codebase, and this will lead to the same jar hell
> > > issues when a "real" first release comes out. I think that
> > > delaying the release further, particularly for a couple of
> > > tickets that have been open for over two years, will only make
> > > this problem worse.
> > >
> > > - Gabriel
> > >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>.
2014-06-30 11:00 GMT+02:00 Tillmann Gaida <ti...@gmail.com>:
> It looks like the two issues revolve around the question if record
> separators should always be some combination of CR and LF or if they
> may be more exotic. I think that if someone made the call that
> commons-csv will not support exotic record separators, both issues
> could be closed very quickly. I'd support that call since I don't see
> any use cases for exotic record separators. After all, CSV is a
> specified format and while some tolerance is required to cover what
> has become a family of formats, I think that exotic record separators
> don't play a role here.
>
Nicely said! I'd support this.
What do others think?
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alpha, beta, or GA makes no difference if it's made public through maven
> >> central. As soon as something is available there, people will start to
> use
> >> it. This will lead to jar hell, when we decide/have to break BC between
> >> alpha/beta and GA.
> >>
> >> That said I'd just release trunk as 1.0, since nobody among us seems to
> >> have the ability/time to fix the last outstanding issue.
> >
> > +1 to releasing trunk.
> >
> > We had a similar discussion about this a couple of months ago. The
> > fact is that people are using commons-csv now, either by making their
> > own build or by pulling the commons-csv codebase directly into their
> > own codebase, and this will lead to the same jar hell issues when a
> > "real" first release comes out. I think that delaying the release
> > further, particularly for a couple of tickets that have been open for
> > over two years, will only make this problem worse.
> >
> > - Gabriel
> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Tillmann Gaida <ti...@gmail.com>.
It looks like the two issues revolve around the question if record
separators should always be some combination of CR and LF or if they
may be more exotic. I think that if someone made the call that
commons-csv will not support exotic record separators, both issues
could be closed very quickly. I'd support that call since I don't see
any use cases for exotic record separators. After all, CSV is a
specified format and while some tolerance is required to cover what
has become a family of formats, I think that exotic record separators
don't play a role here.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Alpha, beta, or GA makes no difference if it's made public through maven
>> central. As soon as something is available there, people will start to use
>> it. This will lead to jar hell, when we decide/have to break BC between
>> alpha/beta and GA.
>>
>> That said I'd just release trunk as 1.0, since nobody among us seems to
>> have the ability/time to fix the last outstanding issue.
>
> +1 to releasing trunk.
>
> We had a similar discussion about this a couple of months ago. The
> fact is that people are using commons-csv now, either by making their
> own build or by pulling the commons-csv codebase directly into their
> own codebase, and this will lead to the same jar hell issues when a
> "real" first release comes out. I think that delaying the release
> further, particularly for a couple of tickets that have been open for
> over two years, will only make this problem worse.
>
> - Gabriel
>
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Alpha, beta, or GA makes no difference if it's made public through maven
> central. As soon as something is available there, people will start to use
> it. This will lead to jar hell, when we decide/have to break BC between
> alpha/beta and GA.
>
> That said I'd just release trunk as 1.0, since nobody among us seems to
> have the ability/time to fix the last outstanding issue.
+1 to releasing trunk.
We had a similar discussion about this a couple of months ago. The
fact is that people are using commons-csv now, either by making their
own build or by pulling the commons-csv codebase directly into their
own codebase, and this will lead to the same jar hell issues when a
"real" first release comes out. I think that delaying the release
further, particularly for a couple of tickets that have been open for
over two years, will only make this problem worse.
- Gabriel
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>.
2014-06-29 15:27 GMT+02:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:18 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 29 June 2014 12:44, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Since we not seem to be able to release 1.0 with a clean implementation
> > > ATM...
> > >
> > > I would like to propose to release a 1.0-beta1 to put a working
> > > implementation in Maven repos.
> > >
> > > This will avoid some of use depending on SNAPSHOT builds.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > Since there are still discussions over API and/or fundamental
> > behaviour, I would prefer ALPHA status.
> > As well as big warnings in the Release Notes
> >
>
> Sure, I'm more interested in having /something/ in the repo than in the
> label.
>
Alpha, beta, or GA makes no difference if it's made public through maven
central. As soon as something is available there, people will start to use
it. This will lead to jar hell, when we decide/have to break BC between
alpha/beta and GA.
That said I'd just release trunk as 1.0, since nobody among us seems to
have the ability/time to fix the last outstanding issue.
Benedikt
>
> Gary
>
>
> >
> >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
> > >> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
> > >> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
> > >>
> > >> - Gabriel
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
> > >> >
> > >> > But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem
> stuck.
> > >> >
> > >> > Gary
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <
> > siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
> > >> >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > Hi Gary,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Cheers,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Siegfried Goeschl
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> Hi All,
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all
> busy.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2
> > remaining
> > >> >> corner
> > >> >> >> issues?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Gary
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> > >> >> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> > >> >> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> > >> >> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/
> > >
> > >> >> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> > >> >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> > >> >> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> > >> >> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:18 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 June 2014 12:44, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Since we not seem to be able to release 1.0 with a clean implementation
> > ATM...
> >
> > I would like to propose to release a 1.0-beta1 to put a working
> > implementation in Maven repos.
> >
> > This will avoid some of use depending on SNAPSHOT builds.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Since there are still discussions over API and/or fundamental
> behaviour, I would prefer ALPHA status.
> As well as big warnings in the Release Notes
>
Sure, I'm more interested in having /something/ in the repo than in the
label.
Gary
>
>
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
> >> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
> >> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
> >>
> >> - Gabriel
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
> >> >
> >> > But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
> >> >>
> >> >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <
> siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Gary,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Siegfried Goeschl
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi All,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2
> remaining
> >> >> corner
> >> >> >> issues?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Gary
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >> >> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >> >> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >> >> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/
> >
> >> >> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> >> >> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> >> >> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> >> >> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 29 June 2014 12:44, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since we not seem to be able to release 1.0 with a clean implementation
> ATM...
>
> I would like to propose to release a 1.0-beta1 to put a working
> implementation in Maven repos.
>
> This will avoid some of use depending on SNAPSHOT builds.
>
> Thoughts?
Since there are still discussions over API and/or fundamental
behaviour, I would prefer ALPHA status.
As well as big warnings in the Release Notes
> Gary
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
>> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
>> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
>>
>> - Gabriel
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
>> >
>> > But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
>> >>
>> >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Gary,
>> >> >
>> >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Siegfried Goeschl
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
>> >> corner
>> >> >> issues?
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Since we not seem to be able to release 1.0 with a clean implementation
ATM...
I would like to propose to release a 1.0-beta1 to put a working
implementation in Maven repos.
This will avoid some of use depending on SNAPSHOT builds.
Thoughts?
Gary
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
> delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
> open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
> >
> > But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And are we sure that the API is OK?
> >>
> >> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Gary,
> >> >
> >> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Siegfried Goeschl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi All,
> >> >>
> >> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> >> >>
> >> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> >> >>
> >> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
> >> corner
> >> >> issues?
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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> >> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gabriel Reid <ga...@gmail.com>.
I'm definitely in favor of going for a 1.0 release. I think that the
delay in releasing it introduces more potential problems than the two
open Jira issues that are blocking the release ever will.
- Gabriel
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
>
> But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And are we sure that the API is OK?
>>
>> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Gary,
>> >
>> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Siegfried Goeschl
>> >
>> >
>> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
>> >>
>> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
>> >>
>> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
>> corner
>> >> issues?
>> >>
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
>> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
>> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
>> >> Home: http://garygregory.com/
>> >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>> >
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
The public API is OK, and the internal stuff seems OK.
But it feels like we've reviewed this so many times and we seem stuck.
Gary
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:20 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And are we sure that the API is OK?
>
> On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Siegfried Goeschl
> >
> >
> > On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> >>
> >> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> >>
> >> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
> corner
> >> issues?
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> --
> >> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
> >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> >> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
And are we sure that the API is OK?
On 16 June 2014 21:26, Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.com> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>
> what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Siegfried Goeschl
>
>
> On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
>>
>> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
>>
>> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining corner
>> issues?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> --
>> E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/>
>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
There are one or two Jiras that are open and tricky, about escaping,
Unicode, and maybe something else...
Gary
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Siegfried Goeschl <
siegfried.goeschl@it20one.com> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
>
> what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Siegfried Goeschl
>
>
> On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
> >
> > Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
> >
> > Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining
> corner
> > issues?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > --
> > E-Mail: garydgregory@gmail.com | ggregory@apache.org
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> > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
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> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/>
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Re: [csv] release 1.0?
Posted by Siegfried Goeschl <si...@it20one.com>.
Hi Gary,
what are the JIRAs for the “corner issues”?
Cheers,
Siegfried Goeschl
On 16 Jun 2014, at 17:00, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It seems we have been stuck for a while and that we are all busy.
>
> Should we pull the trigger and try to release 1.0?
>
> Or, is anyone willing to step up and do work on the 1 or 2 remaining corner
> issues?
>
> Gary
>
> --
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