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Posted to dev@metamodel.apache.org by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com> on 2013/07/29 11:34:16 UTC
First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Hi everyone,
Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
@ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
of the old website contents.
This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
anyways just EMPTY right now).
Kasper
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
The only drawback is that you can not update the website via user
interface: https://cms.apache.org/metamodel/
I will play around with mdtext to HTML sometimes next week to see how easy
it is to port it.
- Henry
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Kasper Sørensen <
i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Henry,
>
> Must confess I always just used the HTML. Seemed a lot easier to get
> working and since most in-depth information is delegated to the wiki,
> I thought we could live without too much CMS infrastructure to begin
> with. A bit silly reasoning maybe, feel free to punk me for it :-) Or
> maybe remake it into a CMS template we can edit thru mdtext.
>
> 2013/8/12 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> > So Kasper, so to build the MetaModel CMS we are currently used the mdtext
> > files to generate the HTML files?
> >
> > I am seeing the content directory contains the index.html file that is
> > manually generated?
> >
> >
> > - Henry
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> > i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Updated that then :-)
> >>
> >> 2013/8/12 Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>:
> >> > I would change the footer to:
> >> >
> >> > Copyright © 2013 The Apache Software Foundation — Licensed under the
> >> Apache
> >> > License 2.0
> >> > Apache MetaModel, MetaModel, and the project logo are trademarks of
> The
> >> > Apache Software Foundation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 1 August 2013 17:56, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
> >> >>
> >> >> The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract
> >> more
> >> >> contributors to build the community.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good job Kasper, thanks =)
> >> >>
> >> >> - Henry
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Updated the staging site with that correction.
> >> >> > Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important
> to
> >> >> > avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
> >> >> > abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
> >> >> > processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
> >> >> > particular domain."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
> >> >> > here, please bring it up.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >> >> > > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I
> >> think
> >> >> > > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we
> >> move
> >> >> > > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
> >> >> > > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all
> the
> >> >> > > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a
> big
> >> >> > > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets
> >> you
> >> >> > > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> >> > >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page.
> >> Maybe
> >> >> > >> separate different contents into separate page?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of
> the
> >> info
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to
> them
> >> from
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > >> website.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> - Henry
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> >> > >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think
> of
> >> this
> >> >> > >>> (staged)?
> >> >> > >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >> >> > >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions
> based on
> >> >> that
> >> >> > >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an
> interest
> >> to
> >> >> > >>> > further build up a good site.
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> >> > >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
> >> >> > >>> >>
> >> >> > >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> >> >> > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >> >> > >>> >>
> >> >> > >>> >> - Henry
> >> >> > >>> >>
> >> >> > >>> >>
> >> >> > >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> >> > >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>> >>
> >> >> > >>> >>> Hi everyone,
> >> >> > >>> >>>
> >> >> > >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a
> "simple
> >> >> > website"
> >> >> > >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >> >> > >>> >>>
> >> >> > >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days
> >> and
> >> >> > weeks
> >> >> > >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to
> direct
> >> >> > people to
> >> >> > >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of
> what
> >> >> > Apache
> >> >> > >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
> >> >> > apache-adoptation
> >> >> > >>> >>> of the old website contents.
> >> >> > >>> >>>
> >> >> > >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can
> >> >> publish
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > >>> >>> to the real URL:
> http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/(which
> >> >> is
> >> >> > >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
> >> >> > >>> >>>
> >> >> > >>> >>> Kasper
> >> >> > >>> >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Noah Slater
> >> > https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>
>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>.
Hi Henry,
Must confess I always just used the HTML. Seemed a lot easier to get
working and since most in-depth information is delegated to the wiki,
I thought we could live without too much CMS infrastructure to begin
with. A bit silly reasoning maybe, feel free to punk me for it :-) Or
maybe remake it into a CMS template we can edit thru mdtext.
2013/8/12 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> So Kasper, so to build the MetaModel CMS we are currently used the mdtext
> files to generate the HTML files?
>
> I am seeing the content directory contains the index.html file that is
> manually generated?
>
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Updated that then :-)
>>
>> 2013/8/12 Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>:
>> > I would change the footer to:
>> >
>> > Copyright © 2013 The Apache Software Foundation — Licensed under the
>> Apache
>> > License 2.0
>> > Apache MetaModel, MetaModel, and the project logo are trademarks of The
>> > Apache Software Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1 August 2013 17:56, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
>> >>
>> >> The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract
>> more
>> >> contributors to build the community.
>> >>
>> >> Good job Kasper, thanks =)
>> >>
>> >> - Henry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Updated the staging site with that correction.
>> >> > Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
>> >> > avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
>> >> >
>> >> > "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
>> >> > abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
>> >> > processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
>> >> > particular domain."
>> >> >
>> >> > Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
>> >> > here, please bring it up.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
>> >> > > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I
>> think
>> >> > > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we
>> move
>> >> > > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
>> >> > > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
>> >> > > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
>> >> > > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets
>> you
>> >> > > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page.
>> Maybe
>> >> > >> separate different contents into separate page?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the
>> info
>> >> > like
>> >> > >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them
>> from
>> >> > the
>> >> > >> website.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> - Henry
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> >> > >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of
>> this
>> >> > >>> (staged)?
>> >> > >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
>> >> > >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on
>> >> that
>> >> > >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest
>> to
>> >> > >>> > further build up a good site.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
>> >> > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >> - Henry
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> >> > >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple
>> >> > website"
>> >> > >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days
>> and
>> >> > weeks
>> >> > >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct
>> >> > people to
>> >> > >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what
>> >> > Apache
>> >> > >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
>> >> > apache-adoptation
>> >> > >>> >>> of the old website contents.
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can
>> >> publish
>> >> > it
>> >> > >>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/(which
>> >> is
>> >> > >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>> Kasper
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noah Slater
>> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
So Kasper, so to build the MetaModel CMS we are currently used the mdtext
files to generate the HTML files?
I am seeing the content directory contains the index.html file that is
manually generated?
- Henry
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Updated that then :-)
>
> 2013/8/12 Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>:
> > I would change the footer to:
> >
> > Copyright © 2013 The Apache Software Foundation — Licensed under the
> Apache
> > License 2.0
> > Apache MetaModel, MetaModel, and the project logo are trademarks of The
> > Apache Software Foundation
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1 August 2013 17:56, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
> >>
> >> The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract
> more
> >> contributors to build the community.
> >>
> >> Good job Kasper, thanks =)
> >>
> >> - Henry
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Updated the staging site with that correction.
> >> > Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
> >> > avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
> >> >
> >> > "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
> >> > abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
> >> > processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
> >> > particular domain."
> >> >
> >> > Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
> >> > here, please bring it up.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >> > > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I
> think
> >> > > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we
> move
> >> > > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
> >> > > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
> >> > > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
> >> > >
> >> > > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
> >> > > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets
> you
> >> > > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page.
> Maybe
> >> > >> separate different contents into separate page?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the
> info
> >> > like
> >> > >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them
> from
> >> > the
> >> > >> website.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> - Henry
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> > >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of
> this
> >> > >>> (staged)?
> >> > >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on
> >> that
> >> > >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest
> to
> >> > >>> > further build up a good site.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> >> > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> - Henry
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> > >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> Hi everyone,
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple
> >> > website"
> >> > >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days
> and
> >> > weeks
> >> > >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct
> >> > people to
> >> > >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what
> >> > Apache
> >> > >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
> >> > apache-adoptation
> >> > >>> >>> of the old website contents.
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can
> >> publish
> >> > it
> >> > >>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/(which
> >> is
> >> > >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Kasper
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noah Slater
> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Nice. Thanks! (Though, I would add a <br> after the "Apache License 2.0".)
On 12 August 2013 18:50, Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>wrote:
> Updated that then :-)
>
> 2013/8/12 Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>:
> > I would change the footer to:
> >
> > Copyright © 2013 The Apache Software Foundation — Licensed under the
> Apache
> > License 2.0
> > Apache MetaModel, MetaModel, and the project logo are trademarks of The
> > Apache Software Foundation
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1 August 2013 17:56, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
> >>
> >> The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract
> more
> >> contributors to build the community.
> >>
> >> Good job Kasper, thanks =)
> >>
> >> - Henry
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Updated the staging site with that correction.
> >> > Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
> >> > avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
> >> >
> >> > "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
> >> > abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
> >> > processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
> >> > particular domain."
> >> >
> >> > Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
> >> > here, please bring it up.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >> > > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I
> think
> >> > > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we
> move
> >> > > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
> >> > > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
> >> > > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
> >> > >
> >> > > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
> >> > > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets
> you
> >> > > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page.
> Maybe
> >> > >> separate different contents into separate page?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the
> info
> >> > like
> >> > >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them
> from
> >> > the
> >> > >> website.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> - Henry
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> > >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of
> this
> >> > >>> (staged)?
> >> > >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on
> >> that
> >> > >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest
> to
> >> > >>> > further build up a good site.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> >> > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> - Henry
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> > >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> Hi everyone,
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple
> >> > website"
> >> > >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days
> and
> >> > weeks
> >> > >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct
> >> > people to
> >> > >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what
> >> > Apache
> >> > >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
> >> > apache-adoptation
> >> > >>> >>> of the old website contents.
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can
> >> publish
> >> > it
> >> > >>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/(which
> >> is
> >> > >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> Kasper
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noah Slater
> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>.
Updated that then :-)
2013/8/12 Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>:
> I would change the footer to:
>
> Copyright © 2013 The Apache Software Foundation — Licensed under the Apache
> License 2.0
> Apache MetaModel, MetaModel, and the project logo are trademarks of The
> Apache Software Foundation
>
>
>
> On 1 August 2013 17:56, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
>>
>> The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract more
>> contributors to build the community.
>>
>> Good job Kasper, thanks =)
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Updated the staging site with that correction.
>> > Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
>> > avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
>> >
>> > "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
>> > abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
>> > processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
>> > particular domain."
>> >
>> > Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
>> > here, please bring it up.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
>> > > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I think
>> > > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we move
>> > > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
>> > > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
>> > > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
>> > >
>> > > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
>> > > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets you
>> > > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
>> > >
>> > > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> > >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page. Maybe
>> > >> separate different contents into separate page?
>> > >>
>> > >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the info
>> > like
>> > >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them from
>> > the
>> > >> website.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> - Henry
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> > >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this
>> > >>> (staged)?
>> > >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
>> > >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on
>> that
>> > >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
>> > >>> > further build up a good site.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> > >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
>> > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >> - Henry
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> > >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>> >>
>> > >>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple
>> > website"
>> > >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and
>> > weeks
>> > >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct
>> > people to
>> > >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what
>> > Apache
>> > >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
>> > apache-adoptation
>> > >>> >>> of the old website contents.
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can
>> publish
>> > it
>> > >>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which
>> is
>> > >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>> >>> Kasper
>> > >>> >>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
I would change the footer to:
Copyright © 2013 The Apache Software Foundation — Licensed under the Apache
License 2.0
Apache MetaModel, MetaModel, and the project logo are trademarks of The
Apache Software Foundation
On 1 August 2013 17:56, Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
>
> The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract more
> contributors to build the community.
>
> Good job Kasper, thanks =)
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Updated the staging site with that correction.
> > Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
> > avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
> >
> > "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
> > abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
> > processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
> > particular domain."
> >
> > Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
> > here, please bring it up.
> >
> >
> > 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> > > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I think
> > > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we move
> > > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
> > > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
> > > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
> > >
> > > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
> > > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets you
> > > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
> > >
> > > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> > >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page. Maybe
> > >> separate different contents into separate page?
> > >>
> > >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the info
> > like
> > >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them from
> > the
> > >> website.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Henry
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> > >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this
> > >>> (staged)?
> > >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> > >>>
> > >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> > >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on
> that
> > >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
> > >>> > further build up a good site.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> > >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> - Henry
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> > >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>> Hi everyone,
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple
> > website"
> > >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and
> > weeks
> > >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct
> > people to
> > >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what
> > Apache
> > >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
> > apache-adoptation
> > >>> >>> of the old website contents.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can
> publish
> > it
> > >>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which
> is
> > >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> Kasper
> > >>> >>>
> > >>>
> >
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
This will work for good start. +1 for pushing it.
The more (correct) information about the podling should help attract more
contributors to build the community.
Good job Kasper, thanks =)
- Henry
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Updated the staging site with that correction.
> Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
> avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
>
> "MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
> abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
> processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
> particular domain."
>
> Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
> here, please bring it up.
>
>
> 2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> > I see your point about too much information. On the other side I think
> > this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we move
> > the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
> > section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
> > "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
> >
> > We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
> > long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets you
> > quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
> >
> > 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page. Maybe
> >> separate different contents into separate page?
> >>
> >> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the info
> like
> >> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them from
> the
> >> website.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Henry
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this
> >>> (staged)?
> >>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> >>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on that
> >>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
> >>> > further build up a good site.
> >>> >
> >>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >> - Henry
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple
> website"
> >>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and
> weeks
> >>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct
> people to
> >>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what
> Apache
> >>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and
> apache-adoptation
> >>> >>> of the old website contents.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish
> it
> >>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
> >>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Kasper
> >>> >>>
> >>>
>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>.
Updated the staging site with that correction.
Also added a sentence near the top which I feel is kinda important to
avoid confusion with ORM-style frameworks:
"MetaModel isn't a data mapping framework. Instead we emphasize
abstraction of metadata, making MetaModel great for generic data
processing applications, less so for applications modeled around a
particular domain."
Does this make sense? If you have ideas for improving the wording
here, please bring it up.
2013/8/1 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> I see your point about too much information. On the other side I think
> this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we move
> the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
> section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
> "actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
>
> We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
> long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets you
> quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
>
> 2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page. Maybe
>> separate different contents into separate page?
>>
>> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the info like
>> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them from the
>> website.
>>
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this
>>> (staged)?
>>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>>>
>>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
>>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on that
>>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
>>> > further build up a good site.
>>> >
>>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
>>> >>
>>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
>>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>> >>
>>> >> - Henry
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
>>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
>>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
>>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
>>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
>>> >>> of the old website contents.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
>>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
>>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Kasper
>>> >>>
>>>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>.
I see your point about too much information. On the other side I think
this layout is better when there's a lot of content. Maybe if we move
the "examples" section down below the mailinglist/wiki/sourcecode
section. Then it's ordered a bit more in sequence of giving all the
"actionable" resource links before going into deeper details.
We can also go for multiple pages of course, I just kinda like a big
long page for all the basic information. The menu in the top lets you
quickly "scroll" to the part that you're interested in.
2013/8/1 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page. Maybe
> separate different contents into separate page?
>
> Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the info like
> getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them from the
> website.
>
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this
>> (staged)?
>> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>>
>> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
>> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on that
>> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
>> > further build up a good site.
>> >
>> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
>> >>
>> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>> >>
>> >> - Henry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
>> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
>> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
>> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
>> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
>> >>> of the old website contents.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
>> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
>> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>> >>>
>> >>> Kasper
>> >>>
>>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
It looks good but I think it is a bit too much info in one page. Maybe
separate different contents into separate page?
Also, I agree with your previous comment about having some of the info like
getting started and how to build in the Wiki and add link to them from the
website.
- Henry
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this
> (staged)?
> http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>
> 2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> > That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on that
> > and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
> > further build up a good site.
> >
> > 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> >> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
> >>
> >> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
> >>
> >> - Henry
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> >> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
> >>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
> >>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
> >>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
> >>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
> >>> of the old website contents.
> >>>
> >>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
> >>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
> >>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
> >>>
> >>> Kasper
> >>>
>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>.
I did some more work on the layout ... What do you guys think of this (staged)?
http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
2013/7/29 Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>:
> That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on that
> and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
> further build up a good site.
>
> 2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
>> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
>>
>> FYI about guide for good podling website:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
>> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
>>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>>>
>>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
>>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
>>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
>>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
>>> of the old website contents.
>>>
>>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
>>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
>>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>>>
>>> Kasper
>>>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Kasper Sørensen <i....@gmail.com>.
That's a good checklist. I'll make a few more additions based on that
and then publish. Of course I invite everyone with an interest to
further build up a good site.
2013/7/29 Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>:
> This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
>
> FYI about guide for good podling website:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
>> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>>
>> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
>> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
>> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
>> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
>> of the old website contents.
>>
>> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
>> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
>> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>>
>> Kasper
>>
Re: First draft "simple site" at our new Apache URL
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
This should be a good start. Thanks for driving this Kasper.
FYI about guide for good podling website:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html
- Henry
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
i.am.kasper.sorensen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Please take a look at this first draft from me for a "simple website"
> @ Apache: http://metamodel.staging.apache.org/
>
> It's "simple" in the sense that I didn't want to spend days and weeks
> on it, so I just wanted to have something up there to direct people to
> the wiki and mailing lists and give them a brief idea of what Apache
> MetaModel is. It's mostly just a quick summary and apache-adoptation
> of the old website contents.
>
> This is still only a staging site, so let me know if I can publish it
> to the real URL: http://metamodel.incubator.apache.org/ (which is
> anyways just EMPTY right now).
>
> Kasper
>