Washington DC Apahe Barcamp

[drew jensen <dr...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

Just a quick reminder on this.

I will be attending the Barcamp tomorrow and I will, if possible, give a
brief presentation regarding our project.

It would be great if I could give a peak to the presentation, but for
that it would have to be finished already... so that is out - it will be
ready by 9 AM however :) of course I will post it to the wiki
afterwards.

However, if anyone believes there is something particular you would like
highlighted I will check emails over the next couple of hours - so go
ahead and post here or direct to me, either way.

Thanks,

//drew

Re: Washington DC Apahe Barcamp

[Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>]

I'll be DC soon, but not that soon.

On May 18, 2012, at 6:54 PM, drew jensen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick reminder on this.
> 
> I will be attending the Barcamp tomorrow and I will, if possible, give a
> brief presentation regarding our project.
> 
> It would be great if I could give a peak to the presentation, but for
> that it would have to be finished already... so that is out - it will be
> ready by 9 AM however :) of course I will post it to the wiki
> afterwards.
> 
> However, if anyone believes there is something particular you would like
> highlighted I will check emails over the next couple of hours - so go
> ahead and post here or direct to me, either way.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> //drew
> 

Re: Washington DC Apahe Barcamp

[Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>]

On 2012-05-18, at 22:35 , drew wrote:

> Though your remarks mention wordperfect format files and isn't that kind
> of an issue with AOO?


Yes. Which is why, I suppose, the company Propylon came into being: b/c Sun didn't see fit to address this essentially niche market. Of course, the "niche market" here is big, like virtually all of Anglo-American jurisprudence, and probably also a lot of Napoleonic Code entities, too. Not all, of course, now use WP; most probably use MSOffice or other idiosyncratic software.

However, the point is that ODF and AOO can be made to produce templates that satisfy the current needs of legal court filings. I believe that has been done. But the issue of mimicking WP's UI is the important one. My guess is that all things considered, if the application AOO can read WP files and produce files using legal templates, the UI issues will be moot, especially if the hidebound users continue using what their license dollars paid for, while the more flexible legals use free software that can, nevertheless, interoperate with the existing.

But I don't know the full state of the matter. Ripe discussion for the bar camp?

Louis

Re: Washington DC Apahe Barcamp

[drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>]

On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 22:02 -0400, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> On 2012-05-18, at 21:54 , drew jensen wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Just a quick reminder on this.
> > 
> > I will be attending the Barcamp tomorrow and I will, if possible, give a
> > brief presentation regarding our project.
> > 
> > It would be great if I could give a peak to the presentation, but for
> > that it would have to be finished already... so that is out - it will be
> > ready by 9 AM however :) of course I will post it to the wiki
> > afterwards.
> > 
> > However, if anyone believes there is something particular you would like
> > highlighted I will check emails over the next couple of hours - so go
> > ahead and post here or direct to me, either way.
> > 
> 
> Drew, thanks for doing this and I wish I could join you in the fun!
> 
> I'd say that heaping praise on Apache at an Apache event would probably only elicit skeptical cynicism, but maybe also beers. :-) Yet, if you could encourage all to check us out….. :-)
> 
> Oh, one thing. A while ago, Propylon, a company, was working on refining OOo for legal work; many law firms and related use WP 5.x or beyond. OOo had some legal templates but the fact is that a huge portion of the legal world is unable to budge from the weight of electrons and paper, however close to museum pieces they be. Yet legal workers want open standards, open source just like the rest of us. 

Hmm - odd you would mention that. As it turns out I will be staying in
the Metro area an extra day and meeting up with a friend who happens to
run the digital archive service for the US Supreme Court on Sunday. The
subject of FOSS office suites may come up as I very recently helped his
son out of tight spot by walking him via phone through the process of
replacing a crashed and badly broken Windows installation with a new
Ubuntu 12.04 install, then his college paper started in MSO over to
LibO..all while on a family vacation at the beach. Dad is now curious,
he is also and most definitely a seasoned MS user/fan and already
looking to OOXML, so I expect a conversation, after talking about the
Nats vs O's (pro baseball) of course, as one must have priorities ;) on
the subject of open standards and ODF.

Though your remarks mention wordperfect format files and isn't that kind
of an issue with AOO?

> 
> Perhaps, in Wash. DC, a receptive audience to such a thing? Esp. among the US CIO office, should that be possible? :-)
> 

> Cheers
> Louis
> 
> 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > //drew
> > 
> 
> 

Re: Washington DC Apahe Barcamp

[Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>]

On 2012-05-18, at 21:54 , drew jensen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick reminder on this.
> 
> I will be attending the Barcamp tomorrow and I will, if possible, give a
> brief presentation regarding our project.
> 
> It would be great if I could give a peak to the presentation, but for
> that it would have to be finished already... so that is out - it will be
> ready by 9 AM however :) of course I will post it to the wiki
> afterwards.
> 
> However, if anyone believes there is something particular you would like
> highlighted I will check emails over the next couple of hours - so go
> ahead and post here or direct to me, either way.
> 

Drew, thanks for doing this and I wish I could join you in the fun!

I'd say that heaping praise on Apache at an Apache event would probably only elicit skeptical cynicism, but maybe also beers. :-) Yet, if you could encourage all to check us out….. :-)

Oh, one thing. A while ago, Propylon, a company, was working on refining OOo for legal work; many law firms and related use WP 5.x or beyond. OOo had some legal templates but the fact is that a huge portion of the legal world is unable to budge from the weight of electrons and paper, however close to museum pieces they be. Yet legal workers want open standards, open source just like the rest of us. 

Perhaps, in Wash. DC, a receptive audience to such a thing? Esp. among the US CIO office, should that be possible? :-)


Cheers
Louis


> Thanks,
> 
> //drew
> 

Re: Washington DC Apahe Barcamp

[Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>]

Hi.

2012/5/18 drew jensen <dr...@gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Just a quick reminder on this.
>
> I will be attending the Barcamp tomorrow and I will, if possible, give a
> brief presentation regarding our project.
>
> It would be great if I could give a peak to the presentation, but for
> that it would have to be finished already... so that is out - it will be
> ready by 9 AM however :) of course I will post it to the wiki
> afterwards.
>
> However, if anyone believes there is something particular you would like
> highlighted I will check emails over the next couple of hours - so go
> ahead and post here or direct to me, either way.
>
>
Good event.

If you could make a presentation would be gook.

Albino