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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com> on 2003/02/06 18:20:32 UTC
Maven as a top-level apache project
Hi,
As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
db.apache.org.
There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org
In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
-- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by James Taylor <ja...@jamestaylor.org>.
> There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
+1, seems like time.
RE: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@octo.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Strachan [mailto:james_strachan@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 06 February 2003 18:57
> To: Turbine Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
>
> From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
> > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 12:34, James Strachan wrote:
> > > +1.
> > >
> > > Sounds great. Can't wait to get my hands on Continuum as well :-)
> >
> > The only hold up really is me now and the changes I need to get
> > classworlds in Maven. Dan and Pete are plugging away on Plexus and
> > Summit. Bob has his 4th incarnation of werkflow and is gaining quite
a
> > following in #werkflow (:-)) and I'm using Tim Endres cvsc package
as
> > the first piece of an SCM package. I'll probably here sporadically
for
> > the next week or two but I'm almost ready to throw it over the wall.
Bob
> > wants a crack at it too.
>
> Sounds great.
>
> As soon as its there, the first thing I want to do is take Werkflow
and
> the
> Cactus stuff and put together an integration testing / system testing
> workflow tool that can be driven from werkflow and be part of the
> Continuus
> Integration cycle...
wow... way cool! :-)
>
> James
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 12:34, James Strachan wrote:
> > +1.
> >
> > Sounds great. Can't wait to get my hands on Continuum as well :-)
>
> The only hold up really is me now and the changes I need to get
> classworlds in Maven. Dan and Pete are plugging away on Plexus and
> Summit. Bob has his 4th incarnation of werkflow and is gaining quite a
> following in #werkflow (:-)) and I'm using Tim Endres cvsc package as
> the first piece of an SCM package. I'll probably here sporadically for
> the next week or two but I'm almost ready to throw it over the wall. Bob
> wants a crack at it too.
Sounds great.
As soon as its there, the first thing I want to do is take Werkflow and the
Cactus stuff and put together an integration testing / system testing
workflow tool that can be driven from werkflow and be part of the Continuus
Integration cycle...
James
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 12:34, James Strachan wrote:
> +1.
>
> Sounds great. Can't wait to get my hands on Continuum as well :-)
The only hold up really is me now and the changes I need to get
classworlds in Maven. Dan and Pete are plugging away on Plexus and
Summit. Bob has his 4th incarnation of werkflow and is gaining quite a
following in #werkflow (:-)) and I'm using Tim Endres cvsc package as
the first piece of an SCM package. I'll probably here sporadically for
the next week or two but I'm almost ready to throw it over the wall. Bob
wants a crack at it too.
> James
> -------
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
> To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:20 PM
> Subject: Maven as a top-level apache project
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> > ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> > project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> > package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
> >
> > I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> > db.apache.org.
> >
> > There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> > agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
> >
> > --
> > jvz.
> >
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason@zenplex.com
> > http://tambora.zenplex.org
> >
> > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> >
> > -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> >
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Jason van Zyl
jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org
In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
-- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
+1.
Sounds great. Can't wait to get my hands on Continuum as well :-)
James
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Maven as a top-level apache project
> Hi,
>
> As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
>
> I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> db.apache.org.
>
> There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
> -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>
>
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Peter Lynch <pe...@mindspring.com>.
Ditto +1
-Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Kazmier" <pe...@kazmier.com>
To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
> >>>>> Jason van Zyl writes:
>
> Jason> Hi, As I've just gone through the process of getting
> Jason> db.apache.org of the ground I would now like to attempt to do
> Jason> the same for Maven.
>
> +1
>
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Pete Kazmier <pe...@kazmier.com>.
>>>>> Jason van Zyl writes:
Jason> Hi, As I've just gone through the process of getting
Jason> db.apache.org of the ground I would now like to attempt to do
Jason> the same for Maven.
+1
Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
That sounds great.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:14, Ted Leung wrote:
> > Jason,
> >
> > What would happen to the dependency / repository code in this case? Is
> > there any chance of it becoming a subproject of the top level?
>
> Certainly, I said I would break out the code if reuse outside of Maven
> was desired. It can definitely be a sub-project. I have absolutely
> nothing against that and I doubt any other Maven developers would
> either.
>
>
> > Ted
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
> > To: "Turbine Maven Developers List"
<tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:20 AM
> > Subject: Maven as a top-level apache project
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> > > ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A
top-level
> > > project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an
SCM
> > > package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
> > >
> > > I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> > > db.apache.org.
> > >
> > > There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> > > agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
> > >
> > > --
> > > jvz.
> > >
> > > Jason van Zyl
> > > jason@zenplex.com
> > > http://tambora.zenplex.org
> > >
> > > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> > > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> > >
> > > -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> > >
> > >
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> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
> -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:14, Ted Leung wrote:
> Jason,
>
> What would happen to the dependency / repository code in this case? Is
> there any chance of it becoming a subproject of the top level?
Certainly, I said I would break out the code if reuse outside of Maven
was desired. It can definitely be a sub-project. I have absolutely
nothing against that and I doubt any other Maven developers would
either.
> Ted
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
> To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:20 AM
> Subject: Maven as a top-level apache project
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> > ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> > project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> > package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
> >
> > I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> > db.apache.org.
> >
> > There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> > agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
> >
> > --
> > jvz.
> >
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason@zenplex.com
> > http://tambora.zenplex.org
> >
> > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> >
> > -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> >
> >
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> >
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jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org
In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
-- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
Jason,
What would happen to the dependency / repository code in this case? Is
there any chance of it becoming a subproject of the top level?
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@zenplex.com>
To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Maven as a top-level apache project
> Hi,
>
> As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
>
> I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> db.apache.org.
>
> There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
> -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>
>
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Ben Walding <be...@walding.com>.
+1
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
>>ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
>>project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
>>package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
>>
>>I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
>>db.apache.org.
>>
>>There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
>>agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
>>
>>--
>>jvz.
>>
>>Jason van Zyl
>>jason@zenplex.com
>>http://tambora.zenplex.org
>>
>>In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
>>and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>>
>> -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>>
>>
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
+1 from me
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Work: http://www.multitask.com.au
Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com> wrote on 07/02/2003 04:20:32 AM:
> Hi,
>
> As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
>
> I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> db.apache.org.
>
> There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
> -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>
>
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Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:22, Kurt Schrader wrote:
> +1
> Do we need to write up a more formal proposal for the board?
Certainly. As part of all this I'll make a document that will be the
formal proposal and I'll have the site ready to display. They had
concerns over the lag between the formation of db.apache.org and when
the site went up so I would like to preempt any concerns by having the
site ready along with the proposal.
If anyone wants to help they can edit the proposal which I will check in
as soon as I can and help with the site generation.
I'm just going to lift all the tools I used to generate the
db.apache.org site.
> -Kurt
>
> On 6 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> > ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> > project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> > package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
> >
> > I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> > db.apache.org.
> >
> > There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> > agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
> >
> > --
> > jvz.
> >
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason@zenplex.com
> > http://tambora.zenplex.org
> >
> > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> >
> > -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> >
> >
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jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org
In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
-- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
Re: Maven as a top-level apache project
Posted by Kurt Schrader <ks...@karmalab.org>.
+1
Do we need to write up a more formal proposal for the board?
-Kurt
On 6 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As I've just gone through the process of getting db.apache.org of the
> ground I would now like to attempt to do the same for Maven. A top-level
> project could house Maven and ancillary tools like Continuum and an SCM
> package and various IDE integration that are popping up.
>
> I can easily mock up a site as I'll just borrow the tools I made for
> db.apache.org.
>
> There is a board meeting in two weeks so if the developers are in
> agreement we'll try and go straight to the top.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
>
> -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
>
>
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