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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> on 2023/04/02 18:59:25 UTC
Re: Launching an application
You may install a JDK as well
sudo apt install openjdk-17-jdk openjdk-17-source
On 3/7/23 00:39, Andrii Cherepkov wrote:
> I installed NetBeans from App Center on Ubuntu 22.04.
>
>> I know for the Windows installer if it can't find Java it shows a popup
> window.
>
> Yes, I remember this popup window, but now it isn't displayed =(
>
> чт, 2 мар. 2023 г. в 19:24, Peter Hull <pe...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 10:22, Andrii Cherepkov <kl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I just installed NetBeans for coding in PHP. So I try to launch
>> application
>>> and nothing was happened =(
>> Just to be clear, what OS are you using and how did you install
>> Netbeans? (from the zip or from a platform dependent installer?)
>> I know for the Windows installer if it can't find Java it shows a popup
>> window.
>> Peter
>>
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Re: Launching an application
Posted by John Neffenger <jo...@status6.com>.
On 4/4/23 1:24 PM, László Kishalmi wrote:
> It would be possible to package a downloaded JDK along with the Snap or
> have one downloaded during the install phase. However then comes the
> question: which one?
I actually created a NetBeans Snap package that does just that. It
downloads and connects to the current OpenJDK Snap package automatically
and will even connect to the current Maven Snap package if installed.
The big caveat is that everything runs strictly confined, including
Apache NetBeans, Apache Maven, and the JDK itself. (Gradle doesn't yet
work in a confined environment.) It's public, but unlisted, as I didn't
want to cause confusion with the official package:
Strictly NetBeans Snap (unlisted)
https://snapcraft.io/strictly-netbeans
It's only suitable for developers like me who were freaked out by supply
chain attacks, such as SolarWinds, and want everything strictly confined
from now on. I especially want to strictly confine tools like NetBeans
and Maven that download hundreds of dependencies and plug-ins from all
over the Internet. Details about how to get all the features working are
here:
Strictly NetBeans Repository
https://github.com/jgneff/strictly-netbeans
There is one feature in Strictly NetBeans that I would like to see in
the official Snap package. Strictly NetBeans is available on four
hardware architectures:
amd64 · arm64 · armhf · i386
Except for a dependency on the GNOME content Snap package, it could have
supported all six architectures:
amd64 · arm64 · armhf · i386 · ppc64el · s390x
László, is there a way to build on more than just "amd64" for the
official Snap package? I notice that developers on other architectures
(arm64, armhf) are finding and installing mine, I assume just because
mine is available and the official one is not.
John
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Re: Launching an application
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 21:24, László Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Snap cannot depend on system packages. It may depend on other snaps as
> content packs, however that would only in a sandboxed environment. (We are
> not sandboxed at the moment).
Yes, I was wondering if classic confinement had a way to recommend
dependencies. Not used Snap much.
Thinking about this, does the Snap use the launcher script directly or
have its own script in between? eg. the DEB and RPM have something
like https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/blob/master/src/main/resources/org/apache/netbeans/nbpackage/deb/deb.launcher.template
We could think about checking for JDK (or netbeans return code) and
using notify-send if needed and available in these? I guess we could
consider that in the launcher scripts too, but possibly easier in
package-specific wrappers.
> It would be possible to package a downloaded JDK along with the Snap or
> have one downloaded during the install phase. However then comes the
> question: which one?
Or if we wanted really complicated, we could use an API to allow choice?! :-)
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: Launching an application
Posted by László Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Snap cannot depend on system packages. It may depend on other snaps as
content packs, however that would only in a sandboxed environment. (We are
not sandboxed at the moment).
It would be possible to package a downloaded JDK along with the Snap or
have one downloaded during the install phase. However then comes the
question: which one?
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:22 AM Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 18:12, Andrii Cherepkov <kl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Yes, I know that NetBeans uses JDK and I need to install that.
> > But I said about users who don't know about that. Whey is not seeing any
> > popup windows in Linux like Ubuntu.
>
> Because it's not as simple an ask as it is on Windows.
>
> Does the Snap list a dependency on a JDK? Not sure whether the Snap
> has a hard or recommended dependency?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Launching an application
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 18:12, Andrii Cherepkov <kl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I know that NetBeans uses JDK and I need to install that.
> But I said about users who don't know about that. Whey is not seeing any
> popup windows in Linux like Ubuntu.
Because it's not as simple an ask as it is on Windows.
Does the Snap list a dependency on a JDK? Not sure whether the Snap
has a hard or recommended dependency?
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: Launching an application
Posted by Andrii Cherepkov <kl...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I know that NetBeans uses JDK and I need to install that.
But I said about users who don't know about that. Whey is not seeing any
popup windows in Linux like Ubuntu.
вс, 2 апр. 2023 г. в 20:59, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>:
> You may install a JDK as well
>
> sudo apt install openjdk-17-jdk openjdk-17-source
>
> On 3/7/23 00:39, Andrii Cherepkov wrote:
> > I installed NetBeans from App Center on Ubuntu 22.04.
> >
> >> I know for the Windows installer if it can't find Java it shows a popup
> > window.
> >
> > Yes, I remember this popup window, but now it isn't displayed =(
> >
> > чт, 2 мар. 2023 г. в 19:24, Peter Hull <pe...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 10:22, Andrii Cherepkov <kl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I just installed NetBeans for coding in PHP. So I try to launch
> >> application
> >>> and nothing was happened =(
> >> Just to be clear, what OS are you using and how did you install
> >> Netbeans? (from the zip or from a platform dependent installer?)
> >> I know for the Windows installer if it can't find Java it shows a popup
> >> window.
> >> Peter
> >>
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