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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2009/11/19 13:38:19 UTC

Re: Where did this go?

Hi Ruthg,

I finally think you could open a Jira issue, using the explanation you wrote below

Thanks

Jacques

From: "Anne Jessel" <an...@cohsoft.com.au>
> Hi Ruth
>
> No problems. Just trying to stimulate other ways of thinking about
> things, in case there's a good reason for not changing anything, or
> for changing things in new and different ways. I personally was happy
> with the old way, and am just as happy with the new way.
>
> Not having a preference makes me more likely to argue in favour of the
> side no one else is supporting. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Anne.
>
> 2009/9/8 Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>:
>> Hi Anne:
>> I appreciate your comments.
>>
>> In my experience, the store logo almost always remains the same. For
>> example, look at Amazon. No matter where you go on any Amazon site you see
>> the same store logo. The catalog and category image logos may change, but
>> the store logo (the one in the header at the top and left of the page)
>> remains the same. IMHO, no store owner would want more than one
>> company/store logo. After all, branding is all about getting people to
>> recognize your logo and then associate that with something. If you have more
>> than one store logo... well that just makes branding that much more
>> difficult.
>>
>> BTW, I'm not saying don't allow setting of logo's per catalog. Certainly we
>> would want to preserve that. You can still do that on category pages. IMHO,
>> that is where that kind of branding belongs. I'm only suggesting that
>> whoever decided to take away the ability to set the store logo (top left
>> image on the store website header) in the Catalog Manager did not consider
>> the full impact of what they did.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>> Ruth
>> Anne Jessel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I can't think of any advantages for having the logo set for the
>>> product store rather than for the catalog, as it is now (both in
>>> Catalog Manager). I presume there was some reason the setting was
>>> previously moved from product store to the catalog.
>>>
>>> Setting per catalog rather than per store does make some sense to me.
>>> I imagine a store might sell different lines of goods as different
>>> catalogs, and might want a different logo for each. Perhaps a clothing
>>> store has a different logo for their adult clothing versus their
>>> children's clothing? Or a reseller of two or more well known brands
>>> might use a different catalog for each brand, and want the brand logo
>>> displayed depending on the user's chosen catalog.
>>>
>>> I have no idea whether the above makes sense. Feel free to ignore it.
>>> Just throwing the thought out there, because presumably someone had a
>>> reason for moving the setting from the product store settings to the
>>> catalog settings in Catalog Manager.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anne.
>>>
>>> 2009/9/7 Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott:
>>>> This is a great idea, however I would argue that the logo in question is
>>>> not
>>>> part of the theme (colors, fonts, layout) but rather a part of the
>>>> content
>>>> for the header. I still say it should be put back into the store
>>>> management
>>>> portion of the Catalog Manager. I have created a Jira issue #2898.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No that just specifies the visual theme set to use for the web site i.e.
>>>>> ECOMMERCE or BACKOFFICE.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what we really need is some visual theme management screens
>>>>> where
>>>>> you can change this sort of thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/09/2009, at 8:32 PM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe what you are looking for is this :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://localhost:8443/content/control/EditWebSite?webSiteId=WebStore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the bottom part of the list, you can select the visual theme for
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 06/09/2009 20:18, Ruth Hoffman a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi BJ:
>>>>>>> I submitted a bug report. This is a bug. IMHO, themes should not
>>>>>>> disable
>>>>>>> this feature. For example, they don't disable putting a Title and
>>>>>>> Sub-title on the store's header. Why disable the dynamic logo
>>>>>>> replacement?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ../..
>>>>>> - Erwan -
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Where did this go?

Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Jacques:
Ok, I'll do that.
Thanks
Ruth

Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi Ruthg,
>
> I finally think you could open a Jira issue, using the explanation you 
> wrote below
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Anne Jessel" <an...@cohsoft.com.au>
>> Hi Ruth
>>
>> No problems. Just trying to stimulate other ways of thinking about
>> things, in case there's a good reason for not changing anything, or
>> for changing things in new and different ways. I personally was happy
>> with the old way, and am just as happy with the new way.
>>
>> Not having a preference makes me more likely to argue in favour of the
>> side no one else is supporting. ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anne.
>>
>> 2009/9/8 Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>:
>>> Hi Anne:
>>> I appreciate your comments.
>>>
>>> In my experience, the store logo almost always remains the same. For
>>> example, look at Amazon. No matter where you go on any Amazon site 
>>> you see
>>> the same store logo. The catalog and category image logos may 
>>> change, but
>>> the store logo (the one in the header at the top and left of the page)
>>> remains the same. IMHO, no store owner would want more than one
>>> company/store logo. After all, branding is all about getting people to
>>> recognize your logo and then associate that with something. If you 
>>> have more
>>> than one store logo... well that just makes branding that much more
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>> BTW, I'm not saying don't allow setting of logo's per catalog. 
>>> Certainly we
>>> would want to preserve that. You can still do that on category 
>>> pages. IMHO,
>>> that is where that kind of branding belongs. I'm only suggesting that
>>> whoever decided to take away the ability to set the store logo (top 
>>> left
>>> image on the store website header) in the Catalog Manager did not 
>>> consider
>>> the full impact of what they did.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> Ruth
>>> Anne Jessel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I can't think of any advantages for having the logo set for the
>>>> product store rather than for the catalog, as it is now (both in
>>>> Catalog Manager). I presume there was some reason the setting was
>>>> previously moved from product store to the catalog.
>>>>
>>>> Setting per catalog rather than per store does make some sense to me.
>>>> I imagine a store might sell different lines of goods as different
>>>> catalogs, and might want a different logo for each. Perhaps a clothing
>>>> store has a different logo for their adult clothing versus their
>>>> children's clothing? Or a reseller of two or more well known brands
>>>> might use a different catalog for each brand, and want the brand logo
>>>> displayed depending on the user's chosen catalog.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea whether the above makes sense. Feel free to ignore it.
>>>> Just throwing the thought out there, because presumably someone had a
>>>> reason for moving the setting from the product store settings to the
>>>> catalog settings in Catalog Manager.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anne.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/9/7 Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Scott:
>>>>> This is a great idea, however I would argue that the logo in 
>>>>> question is
>>>>> not
>>>>> part of the theme (colors, fonts, layout) but rather a part of the
>>>>> content
>>>>> for the header. I still say it should be put back into the store
>>>>> management
>>>>> portion of the Catalog Manager. I have created a Jira issue #2898.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No that just specifies the visual theme set to use for the web 
>>>>>> site i.e.
>>>>>> ECOMMERCE or BACKOFFICE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think what we really need is some visual theme management screens
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> you can change this sort of thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/09/2009, at 8:32 PM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe what you are looking for is this :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://localhost:8443/content/control/EditWebSite?webSiteId=WebStore 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the bottom part of the list, you can select the visual theme for
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 06/09/2009 20:18, Ruth Hoffman a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi BJ:
>>>>>>>> I submitted a bug report. This is a bug. IMHO, themes should not
>>>>>>>> disable
>>>>>>>> this feature. For example, they don't disable putting a Title and
>>>>>>>> Sub-title on the store's header. Why disable the dynamic logo
>>>>>>>> replacement?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ../..
>>>>>>> - Erwan -
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd
>> PO Box 2773
>> Cheltenham Vic 3192
>> Phone: (03) 9585 6788
>> Fax: (03) 9585 1086
>> Web: http://www.cohsoft.com.au/
>> Email: sales@cohsoft.com.au
>>
>> Bonsai ERP, the all-inclusive ERP system
>> http://www.bonsaierp.com.au/
>>
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>
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