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Eclipse 3.0
I don't see what all you people do in M4. For me its dirt slow. I'm just
navigating through the Spindle source code and there is a noticeable delay -
the cursor lags as I use the arrow keys to move around.
And syntax completion in Java editor can take a second or more to show the
proposals. One last gripe, the help system has been indexing itself for the
last 2 minutes.
Geoff
Geoffrey Longman
Intelligent Works Inc.
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Colin Sampaleanu <co...@exis.com>.
Make sure in your install of the 3.0 series you just unzip the big zip
file with the whole SDK, but _do not_ unzip the examples on top. I
always did this with the 2.x series (figuring it wouldn't hurt, and
maybe I'd play around with them). I don't know if it's still an issue in
M4, but in 3.0 stream versions up to M3, having the examples there
totally froze Eclipse for random periods of time, and slowed it down in
general; there was/is a problem with one of the examples, I think the
JSP one.
Geoff Longman wrote:
>I have a decent machine (Win2k, 3.06 GHz P4 w/ 2gig ram) and I must say that
>2.1.x is easily twice as fast for just moving around, context menus. But it
>seems to be something at my end as you guys seem to have good performance.
>
>BTW, is there an option to have the incremental builds run the UI thread
>(the old way)?
>
>I have to admit I like the concepts of the features you describe. But I
>don't understand the idea of filtering markers based on named type. A
>problem marker is a problem marker and one is just going to get confused if
>you filter one plugins markers and not others.
>
>Geoff
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Colin Sampaleanu" <co...@exis.com>
>To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:26 PM
>Subject: Re: Eclipse 3.0
>
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>>I think there must be something wrong with your system. It doesn't seem
>>to be any slower for me than 2.1.x... Help takes < 10 seconds to
>>index... Maybe it's a function of having enough horsepower though; I'm
>>using it on 2 machines that are both over 2GHz.
>>
>>I find 3.0M4 much better than 2.1.x, to the point where I can't stand
>>using the latter. There is now a Ctrl-M key binding which can
>>zoom/unzoom the current window, which is theoretically a small feature
>>but very important for me. There are also a number of some biggies like
>>the fact that some things which were modal now happen in the background.
>>Builds on a resource change happen in the background, and the
>>synchronize view is live; if you keep it open it will always show what
>>you have changed compared to CVS. There are some nice refactoring and
>>code generation improvements too.
>>
>>
>>Geoff Longman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I don't see what all you people do in M4. For me its dirt slow. I'm just
>>>navigating through the Spindle source code and there is a noticeable
>>>
>>>
>delay -
>
>
>>>the cursor lags as I use the arrow keys to move around.
>>>
>>>And syntax completion in Java editor can take a second or more to show
>>>
>>>
>the
>
>
>>>proposals. One last gripe, the help system has been indexing itself for
>>>
>>>
>the
>
>
>>>last 2 minutes.
>>>
>>>Geoff
>>>
>>>
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
I have a decent machine (Win2k, 3.06 GHz P4 w/ 2gig ram) and I must say that
2.1.x is easily twice as fast for just moving around, context menus. But it
seems to be something at my end as you guys seem to have good performance.
BTW, is there an option to have the incremental builds run the UI thread
(the old way)?
I have to admit I like the concepts of the features you describe. But I
don't understand the idea of filtering markers based on named type. A
problem marker is a problem marker and one is just going to get confused if
you filter one plugins markers and not others.
Geoff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Sampaleanu" <co...@exis.com>
To: "Tapestry users" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Eclipse 3.0
> I think there must be something wrong with your system. It doesn't seem
> to be any slower for me than 2.1.x... Help takes < 10 seconds to
> index... Maybe it's a function of having enough horsepower though; I'm
> using it on 2 machines that are both over 2GHz.
>
> I find 3.0M4 much better than 2.1.x, to the point where I can't stand
> using the latter. There is now a Ctrl-M key binding which can
> zoom/unzoom the current window, which is theoretically a small feature
> but very important for me. There are also a number of some biggies like
> the fact that some things which were modal now happen in the background.
> Builds on a resource change happen in the background, and the
> synchronize view is live; if you keep it open it will always show what
> you have changed compared to CVS. There are some nice refactoring and
> code generation improvements too.
>
>
> Geoff Longman wrote:
>
> >I don't see what all you people do in M4. For me its dirt slow. I'm just
> >navigating through the Spindle source code and there is a noticeable
delay -
> >the cursor lags as I use the arrow keys to move around.
> >
> >And syntax completion in Java editor can take a second or more to show
the
> >proposals. One last gripe, the help system has been indexing itself for
the
> >last 2 minutes.
> >
> >Geoff
> >
> >Geoffrey Longman
> >Intelligent Works Inc.
> >
> >
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Colin Sampaleanu <co...@exis.com>.
I think there must be something wrong with your system. It doesn't seem
to be any slower for me than 2.1.x... Help takes < 10 seconds to
index... Maybe it's a function of having enough horsepower though; I'm
using it on 2 machines that are both over 2GHz.
I find 3.0M4 much better than 2.1.x, to the point where I can't stand
using the latter. There is now a Ctrl-M key binding which can
zoom/unzoom the current window, which is theoretically a small feature
but very important for me. There are also a number of some biggies like
the fact that some things which were modal now happen in the background.
Builds on a resource change happen in the background, and the
synchronize view is live; if you keep it open it will always show what
you have changed compared to CVS. There are some nice refactoring and
code generation improvements too.
Geoff Longman wrote:
>I don't see what all you people do in M4. For me its dirt slow. I'm just
>navigating through the Spindle source code and there is a noticeable delay -
>the cursor lags as I use the arrow keys to move around.
>
>And syntax completion in Java editor can take a second or more to show the
>proposals. One last gripe, the help system has been indexing itself for the
>last 2 minutes.
>
>Geoff
>
>Geoffrey Longman
>Intelligent Works Inc.
>
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
> Are you using the Linix GTK version? I too noticed that the java editor
> seems much slower. The windows version, however, seems faster in v3.0.
Nope Win2k, I just rebooted but the performance is still really slow
Geoff
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Andreas Bohnert <ab...@online.de>.
thanks, I found it!
I was looking for something like 'start in another vm'.
andreas
Paul Ferraro wrote:
> It was one of the first features added to v3.0 back in the M1 release:
>
> http://download2.eclipse.org/downloads/drops/S-3.0M1-200306051737/eclipse-news-M1.html
>
>
> Andreas Bohnert wrote:
>
>> where do you specify if ant should take his own vm?
>> i can't find it and have lot's of memory leaks too:(
>>
>> regards
>> andreas
>>
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Paul Ferraro <pm...@columbia.edu>.
It was one of the first features added to v3.0 back in the M1 release:
http://download2.eclipse.org/downloads/drops/S-3.0M1-200306051737/eclipse-news-M1.html
Andreas Bohnert wrote:
> Paul Ferraro wrote:
>
>> My initial reason for switching is v3.0 was the new option to run ant
>> in it's own JVM (instead of the same one as Eclipse itself). There
>> are known memory leaks in Eclipse ant integration. Run task after
>> task and Eclipse will eventually run out of memory. v3.0 doesn't fix
>> this issue - but since the seperate JVM is destroyed after every run,
>> the leaks become harmless.
>>
>
> where do you specify if ant should take his own vm?
> i can't find it and have lot's of memory leaks too:(
>
> regards
> andreas
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Andreas Bohnert <ab...@online.de>.
Paul Ferraro wrote:
> My initial reason for switching is v3.0 was the new option to run ant
> in it's own JVM (instead of the same one as Eclipse itself). There
> are known memory leaks in Eclipse ant integration. Run task after task
> and Eclipse will eventually run out of memory. v3.0 doesn't fix this
> issue - but since the seperate JVM is destroyed after every run, the
> leaks become harmless.
>
where do you specify if ant should take his own vm?
i can't find it and have lot's of memory leaks too:(
regards
andreas
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Re: Eclipse 3.0
Posted by Paul Ferraro <pm...@columbia.edu>.
My initial reason for switching is v3.0 was the new option to run ant in
it's own JVM (instead of the same one as Eclipse itself). There are
known memory leaks in Eclipse ant integration. Run task after task and
Eclipse will eventually run out of memory. v3.0 doesn't fix this issue -
but since the seperate JVM is destroyed after every run, the leaks
become harmless.
Are you using the Linix GTK version? I too noticed that the java editor
seems much slower. The windows version, however, seems faster in v3.0.
Paul Ferraro
Geoff Longman wrote:
>I don't see what all you people do in M4. For me its dirt slow. I'm just
>navigating through the Spindle source code and there is a noticeable delay -
>the cursor lags as I use the arrow keys to move around.
>
>And syntax completion in Java editor can take a second or more to show the
>proposals. One last gripe, the help system has been indexing itself for the
>last 2 minutes.
>
>Geoff
>
>Geoffrey Longman
>Intelligent Works Inc.
>
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