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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula opened a new pull request, #12419: WIP: Optimize making of intervals for segment load / drop

AmatyaAvadhanula opened a new pull request, #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419

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   Segment balancing by coordinator is taking a long time.
   
   One of the reasons is that a new interval is created when the same interval can be utilized.
   
   
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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula commented on a diff in pull request #12419: WIP: Optimize add / remove segment and SegmentsCostCache computation

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
AmatyaAvadhanula commented on code in PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#discussion_r850517238


##########
core/src/main/java/org/apache/druid/timeline/SegmentId.java:
##########
@@ -266,6 +266,7 @@ public static SegmentId dummy(String dataSource, int partitionNum)
   private final long intervalEndMillis;
   @Nullable
   private final Chronology intervalChronology;
+  private final Interval interval;

Review Comment:
   https://implydata.atlassian.net/browse/IMPLY-17966 indicates that creating an Interval each time leads to a significant overhead. 



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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula commented on a diff in pull request #12419: WIP: Optimize add / remove segment and SegmentsCostCache computation

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
AmatyaAvadhanula commented on code in PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#discussion_r851635152


##########
core/src/main/java/org/apache/druid/timeline/SegmentId.java:
##########
@@ -266,6 +266,7 @@ public static SegmentId dummy(String dataSource, int partitionNum)
   private final long intervalEndMillis;
   @Nullable
   private final Chronology intervalChronology;
+  private final Interval interval;

Review Comment:
   The impact when using the current approach is insignificant, and this change can be avoided



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[GitHub] [druid] gianm commented on pull request #12419: Optimize SegmentsCostCache

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
gianm commented on PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#issuecomment-1101976253

   > > Could you also please share any insights to estimate a ballpark performance change?
   > 
   > If this work is inspired by a real world scenario, you could build a performance test or benchmark similar to that scenario. IMO that's the best way to approach this kind of thing, because otherwise it can be tough to make sure you're attacking an actual bottleneck.
   
   Or maybe you've already done enough performance testing (you do have some numbers in the original description) and the issue is just that I don't understand how much of a difference we can expect. For example, you said that SegmentsCostCache sped up from 39807ms to 189ms with 100k random segments. How does this relate to the expected overall time that Coordinator run would take for that setup?


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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula commented on pull request #12419: Optimize SegmentsCostCache

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
AmatyaAvadhanula commented on PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#issuecomment-1288159068

   Closing this PR. New changes in https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/13254


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[GitHub] [druid] gianm commented on pull request #12419: WIP: Optimize add / remove segment and SegmentsCostCache computation

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
gianm commented on PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#issuecomment-1099253950

   Very interesting! What's the bottom line? Can we expect Coordinator runs to speed up for clusters with large numbers of segments, and if so by how much?


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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula closed pull request #12419: Optimize SegmentsCostCache

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AmatyaAvadhanula closed pull request #12419: Optimize SegmentsCostCache
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419


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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula commented on pull request #12419: WIP: Optimize add / remove segment and SegmentsCostCache computation

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
AmatyaAvadhanula commented on PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#issuecomment-1100680955

   
   
   
   > Very interesting! What's the bottom line? Can we expect Coordinator runs to speed up for clusters with large numbers of segments, and if so by how much?
   
   @gianm Yes, we can expect a speedup but we might have to run proper benchmarks / collect metrics on a large cluster to get a good idea.
   
   Could you also please share any insights to estimate a ballpark performance change?


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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula commented on pull request #12419: Optimize SegmentsCostCache

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
AmatyaAvadhanula commented on PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#issuecomment-1101994710

   > > Could you also please share any insights to estimate a ballpark performance change?
   > 
   > If this work is inspired by a real world scenario, you could build a performance test or benchmark similar to that scenario. IMO that's the best way to approach this kind of thing, because otherwise it can be tough to make sure you're attacking an actual bottleneck.
   
   The cost in a "stable" state will reduce significantly. The bottleneck is startup with a large number of segments or when there are several segments waiting to be loaded / dropped. I do have an approach in mind and will try to run a benchmark simulating these scenarios


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[GitHub] [druid] gianm commented on a diff in pull request #12419: WIP: Optimize add / remove segment and SegmentsCostCache computation

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
gianm commented on code in PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#discussion_r850511266


##########
core/src/main/java/org/apache/druid/timeline/SegmentId.java:
##########
@@ -266,6 +266,7 @@ public static SegmentId dummy(String dataSource, int partitionNum)
   private final long intervalEndMillis;
   @Nullable
   private final Chronology intervalChronology;
+  private final Interval interval;

Review Comment:
   The comment above mentions that `interval` is not stored, on purpose, in order to reduce heap usage of SegmentId. Presumably that refers to heap usage on Coordinators and Brokers for clusters that have a large number of segments.
   
   Is it important for performance that the interval be cached?



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[GitHub] [druid] AmatyaAvadhanula commented on a diff in pull request #12419: WIP: Optimize add / remove segment and SegmentsCostCache computation

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
AmatyaAvadhanula commented on code in PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#discussion_r850517238


##########
core/src/main/java/org/apache/druid/timeline/SegmentId.java:
##########
@@ -266,6 +266,7 @@ public static SegmentId dummy(String dataSource, int partitionNum)
   private final long intervalEndMillis;
   @Nullable
   private final Chronology intervalChronology;
+  private final Interval interval;

Review Comment:
   https://implydata.atlassian.net/browse/IMPLY-17966 indicates that creating an Interval each time leads to a significant overhead. 



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[GitHub] [druid] gianm commented on pull request #12419: Optimize SegmentsCostCache

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
gianm commented on PR #12419:
URL: https://github.com/apache/druid/pull/12419#issuecomment-1101969695

   > Could you also please share any insights to estimate a ballpark performance change?
   
   If this work is inspired by a real world scenario, you could build a performance test or benchmark similar to that scenario. IMO that's the best way to approach this kind of thing, because otherwise it can be tough to make sure you're attacking an actual bottleneck.


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