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Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

What is component "shs" in Bugzilla?

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=Native-Lang

There you find "shs - Secwepemc Language" but this is likely wrong since 
we don't even have that language at
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/extras/l10n/source/

The right one is probably "sh", which we use to denote "Serbian Latin". 
This is improper naming due to political changes, but due to technical 
constraints we are keeping the now deprecated "sh" code. At least, this 
one must be added.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> I'm reading the "sh" is deprecated and "sr" is for Serbian  IANA
>> recommends sr-Latn for Serbian with Latin script. ...
>>
>> Are we not able to use subtags like this in Pootle?
>
>
> No: the problem is explained in
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122910 and is related to the
> OpenOffice code, not to the tools.
>
> So: we need to use the deprecated "sh" code due to still existing technical
> constraints in OpenOffice.
>

OK. I've added "sh" to Bugzilla.

-Rob

> Note if someone cares to fix it: in
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/other.html
> Serbian Cyrillic and Latin are swapped (sr must be Cyrillic, sh Latin).
>
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 09/05/2013 01:02 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> I'm reading the "sh" is deprecated and "sr" is for Serbian IANA
>> recommends sr-Latn for Serbian with Latin script. ...
>> Are we not able to use subtags like this in Pootle?
>
> No: the problem is explained in
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122910 and is related to
> the OpenOffice code, not to the tools.
>
> So: we need to use the deprecated "sh" code due to still existing
> technical constraints in OpenOffice.
>
> Note if someone cares to fix it: in
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/other.html
> Serbian Cyrillic and Latin are swapped (sr must be Cyrillic, sh Latin).

done, will be live with the next publish.

Marcus


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Re: Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Rob Weir wrote:
> I'm reading the "sh" is deprecated and "sr" is for Serbian  IANA
> recommends sr-Latn for Serbian with Latin script. ...
> Are we not able to use subtags like this in Pootle?

No: the problem is explained in 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122910 and is related to 
the OpenOffice code, not to the tools.

So: we need to use the deprecated "sh" code due to still existing 
technical constraints in OpenOffice.

Note if someone cares to fix it: in
http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/other.html
Serbian Cyrillic and Latin are swapped (sr must be Cyrillic, sh Latin).

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>> The following is maybe a good indication that it is indeed belonging to
>> the language:
>> http://www.openoffice.org/shs/
>> Maybe already available in Bugzilla but not yet (or for a point of time
>> in the past) available in the source code?
>
>
> OK, no problems is keeping "shs" even if we don't have a single word in that
> language in OpenOffice so far.
>
> What's important is that "sh" is added: we have volunteers who are just
> waiting for "sh" to be available in Pootle, we have a stable "sh" 3.3.0
> version, we even have complete 3.4 "sh" translations in Bugzilla that were
> probably not integrated due to wrong assignments, so let's get the
> infrastructure in place.
>

I'm reading the "sh" is deprecated and "sr" is for Serbian  IANA
recommends sr-Latn for Serbian with Latin script.

See:  http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry

Are we not able to use subtags like this in Pootle?  (Bugzilla
obviously doesn't care).

-Rob

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> The following is maybe a good indication that it is indeed belonging to
> the language:
> http://www.openoffice.org/shs/
> Maybe already available in Bugzilla but not yet (or for a point of time
> in the past) available in the source code?

OK, no problems is keeping "shs" even if we don't have a single word in 
that language in OpenOffice so far.

What's important is that "sh" is added: we have volunteers who are just 
waiting for "sh" to be available in Pootle, we have a stable "sh" 3.3.0 
version, we even have complete 3.4 "sh" translations in Bugzilla that 
were probably not integrated due to wrong assignments, so let's get the 
infrastructure in place.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Component "shs" in Bugzilla (Native-Lang)

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 09/04/2013 11:18 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> What is component "shs" in Bugzilla?
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi?product=Native-Lang
>
> There you find "shs - Secwepemc Language" but this is likely wrong since
> we don't even have that language at
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/extras/l10n/source/

I found 2 interesting things:
https://www.google.de/search?q=shs++openoffice

1.
The following is maybe a good indication that it is indeed belonging to 
the language:

http://www.openoffice.org/shs/

Maybe already available in Bugzilla but not yet (or for a point of time 
in the past) available in the source code?

2.
Or it belongs to a file format and was the start of a new document filter:

http://code.google.com/p/scrap2rtf/

HTH

Marcus



> The right one is probably "sh", which we use to denote "Serbian Latin".
> This is improper naming due to political changes, but due to technical
> constraints we are keeping the now deprecated "sh" code. At least, this
> one must be added.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.

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