You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@solr.apache.org by "Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A)" <kl...@bloomberg.net> on 2025/06/02 16:56:10 UTC
Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Hello all,
Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of dense vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going forward. One could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between Solr and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the factors possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of visibility / coordination amongst contributors.
To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to gauge interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and semantic search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently working on DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search. If you would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email address you would like for communications going forward.
Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal meeting at the conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be monthly or ad-hoc depending on interest.
Thanks all,
Kevin
RE: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by em...@francelabs.com.
Hello everyone !
As Alessandro said (thank you !), I'm interested.
Emeric Bernet-Rollande
-----Message d'origine-----
De : solrlucene <so...@gmail.com>
Envoyé : vendredi 13 juin 2025 00:43
À : dev@solr.apache.org
Cc : emeric.bernet@francelabs.com
Objet : Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Would be interested
Gaurav
On Wednesday, June 11, 2025, Alessandro Benedetti <a....@sease.io>
wrote:
> Adding Emeric! He's interested as well
>
> --------------------------
> *Alessandro Benedetti*
> Director @ Sease Ltd.
> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
> *Apache Solr Chair of PMC*
>
> e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
>
>
> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied Consulting | Training | Open
> Source
>
> Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025, 17:49 raghavan m, <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone
> > 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current
> > solr contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints
> > such as
> from
> > end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
> > I am interested in this. I have been meaning to contribute to the
> community
> > in some niche area.
> > Please count me in. If there is a meetup on this, please add me.
> >
> > thanks,
> > *Raghavan*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 12:31 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Exciting to see the responses. Based on replies/feedback, a few
> > > clarifications:
> > >
> > > 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current
> > > solr contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints
> > > such as
> > from
> > > end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
> > >
> > > 2. We will broadcast publicly to the solr dev mailing list (will
> > > not be creating a new mailing list). I think we will test a
> > > monthly meetup
> > format
> > > starting sometime in late June/early July
> > >
> > > 3. Better utilizing Jira and tagging DVS issues would be great. We
> > > can take a stab at a first iteration of this at first meetup
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > > From: dev@solr.apache.org At: 06/03/25 05:44:31 UTC-4:00To:
> > > dev@solr.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
> > >
> > > Thanks, Kevin, and great to see interest in this!
> > >
> > > +1 on using Jira, components and why not, maybe even epic to have
> > > +a
> > better
> > > view on an "AI Roadmap".
> > >
> > > Updating Confluence will also be a desirable outcome (although I
> > > didn't even know about that roadmap, so even if decently recent
> > > maybe its
> > utility
> > > has faded).
> > >
> > > We'll keep the dev list updated!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > --------------------------
> > > *Alessandro Benedetti*
> > > Director @ Sease Ltd.
> > > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
> > > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
> > >
> > > e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
> > >
> > >
> > > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied Consulting | Training |
> > > Open Source
> > >
> > > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/> LinkedIn
> > > <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
> > > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
> > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> |
> > > Github <https://github.com/seaseltd>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:44, Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with
> Vector
> > > > search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language
> > > > model instead of having to make remote API calls for
> > > > text-to-vector
> > conversion.
> > > > Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for
> > > > this
> > > using
> > > > ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
> > > > collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for
> > improvement.
> > > >
> > > > +1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
> > > > communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr
> meetup
> > > > every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could
> > > > fix a
> > day
> > > > of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And
> > > > send
> > out
> > > a
> > > > reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would
> > > > have "subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the
> > > > rest won't
> > > miss
> > > > out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they
> > > > so
> > wish. I
> > > > am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
> > > >
> > > > - Rahul
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan
> > > > > towards
> > making
> > > > > Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you
> > > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via
> > > > > > the
> > email
> > > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I think we should keep the communications on this
> > > > > list
> > > itself,
> > > > > given how we have communicated in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley,
> > > > > <ds...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new
> community
> > > > > > members!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the
> > > > > > word
> > > "vector"
> > > > on
> > > > > > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > > > > > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of
> > > > > > this collaboration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use
> > > > > > consistent
> > > JIRA
> > > > > > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component"
> > > > > > makes
> > > sense
> > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.
> jira.jir
> > > a-projects-plugin:components-page
> > > <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.
> jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
> > >
> > > > > > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components
> > > > > > by our committers (we have permission).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups?
> > > > There
> > > > > > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other
> aspects
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens
> > > > > > and
> post
> > a
> > > > > > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend.
> If
> > > > this
> > > > > > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply
> wanting
> > > to
> > > > > know
> > > > > > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily
> > > > > > want to
> > > > attend
> > > > > > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~ David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919
> > > > > > 3RD
> A)
> > <
> > > > > > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current
> > > > > > > state
> > of
> > > > > dense
> > > > > > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions
> > > > > > > going
> > > forward.
> > > > > One
> > > > > > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature
> > > > > > > space
> > between
> > > > > Solr
> > > > > > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one
> > > > > > > of
> the
> > > > > factors
> > > > > > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is
> > > > > > > lack of
> > > > > > visibility /
> > > > > > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would
> > > > > > > like
> to
> > > > gauge
> > > > > > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense
> > > > > > > vector
> and
> > > > > > semantic
> > > > > > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is
> > > > > > > currently
> > > > working
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI
> > > > > > > powered
> > search.
> > > > If
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email
> > > > > > > via the
> > > email
> > > > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be
> > > > > > > attending
> > Berlin
> > > > > > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first
> > > > > > > informal
> > > meeting
> > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering
> > > > > > > can be
> > > > monthly
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by solrlucene <so...@gmail.com>.
Would be interested
Gaurav
On Wednesday, June 11, 2025, Alessandro Benedetti <a....@sease.io>
wrote:
> Adding Emeric! He's interested as well
>
> --------------------------
> *Alessandro Benedetti*
> Director @ Sease Ltd.
> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
> *Apache Solr Chair of PMC*
>
> e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
>
>
> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>
> Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025, 17:49 raghavan m, <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone
> > 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr
> > contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as
> from
> > end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
> > I am interested in this. I have been meaning to contribute to the
> community
> > in some niche area.
> > Please count me in. If there is a meetup on this, please add me.
> >
> > thanks,
> > *Raghavan*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 12:31 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Exciting to see the responses. Based on replies/feedback, a few
> > > clarifications:
> > >
> > > 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr
> > > contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as
> > from
> > > end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
> > >
> > > 2. We will broadcast publicly to the solr dev mailing list (will not be
> > > creating a new mailing list). I think we will test a monthly meetup
> > format
> > > starting sometime in late June/early July
> > >
> > > 3. Better utilizing Jira and tagging DVS issues would be great. We can
> > > take a stab at a first iteration of this at first meetup
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > > From: dev@solr.apache.org At: 06/03/25 05:44:31 UTC-4:00To:
> > > dev@solr.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
> > >
> > > Thanks, Kevin, and great to see interest in this!
> > >
> > > +1 on using Jira, components and why not, maybe even epic to have a
> > better
> > > view on an "AI Roadmap".
> > >
> > > Updating Confluence will also be a desirable outcome (although I didn't
> > > even know about that roadmap, so even if decently recent maybe its
> > utility
> > > has faded).
> > >
> > > We'll keep the dev list updated!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > --------------------------
> > > *Alessandro Benedetti*
> > > Director @ Sease Ltd.
> > > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
> > > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
> > >
> > > e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
> > >
> > >
> > > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
> > > Consulting | Training | Open Source
> > >
> > > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
> > > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
> > > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
> > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
> > > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:44, Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with
> Vector
> > > > search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language model
> > > > instead of having to make remote API calls for text-to-vector
> > conversion.
> > > > Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for this
> > > using
> > > > ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
> > > > collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for
> > improvement.
> > > >
> > > > +1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
> > > > communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr
> meetup
> > > > every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could fix a
> > day
> > > > of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And send
> > out
> > > a
> > > > reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would have
> > > > "subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the rest won't
> > > miss
> > > > out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they so
> > wish. I
> > > > am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
> > > >
> > > > - Rahul
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards
> > making
> > > > > Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you
> > > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the
> > email
> > > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I think we should keep the communications on this list
> > > itself,
> > > > > given how we have communicated in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new
> community
> > > > > > members!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word
> > > "vector"
> > > > on
> > > > > > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > > > > > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> > > > > > collaboration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent
> > > JIRA
> > > > > > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes
> > > sense
> > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.
> jira.jir
> > > a-projects-plugin:components-page
> > > <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.
> jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
> > >
> > > > > > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> > > > > > committers (we have permission).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups?
> > > > There
> > > > > > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other
> aspects
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and
> post
> > a
> > > > > > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend.
> If
> > > > this
> > > > > > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply
> wanting
> > > to
> > > > > know
> > > > > > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to
> > > > attend
> > > > > > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~ David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD
> A)
> > <
> > > > > > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state
> > of
> > > > > dense
> > > > > > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going
> > > forward.
> > > > > One
> > > > > > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space
> > between
> > > > > Solr
> > > > > > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of
> the
> > > > > factors
> > > > > > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> > > > > > visibility /
> > > > > > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like
> to
> > > > gauge
> > > > > > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector
> and
> > > > > > semantic
> > > > > > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently
> > > > working
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered
> > search.
> > > > If
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the
> > > email
> > > > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending
> > Berlin
> > > > > > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal
> > > meeting
> > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be
> > > > monthly
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by Bruno Roustant <br...@gmail.com>.
I'm interested, thanks for the initiative!
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by Alessandro Benedetti <a....@sease.io>.
Adding Emeric! He's interested as well
--------------------------
*Alessandro Benedetti*
Director @ Sease Ltd.
*Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
*Apache Solr Chair of PMC*
e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
*Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
Consulting | Training | Open Source
Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
<https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
<https://github.com/seaseltd>
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025, 17:49 raghavan m, <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone
> 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr
> contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as from
> end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
> I am interested in this. I have been meaning to contribute to the community
> in some niche area.
> Please count me in. If there is a meetup on this, please add me.
>
> thanks,
> *Raghavan*
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 12:31 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>
> > Exciting to see the responses. Based on replies/feedback, a few
> > clarifications:
> >
> > 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr
> > contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as
> from
> > end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
> >
> > 2. We will broadcast publicly to the solr dev mailing list (will not be
> > creating a new mailing list). I think we will test a monthly meetup
> format
> > starting sometime in late June/early July
> >
> > 3. Better utilizing Jira and tagging DVS issues would be great. We can
> > take a stab at a first iteration of this at first meetup
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > From: dev@solr.apache.org At: 06/03/25 05:44:31 UTC-4:00To:
> > dev@solr.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
> >
> > Thanks, Kevin, and great to see interest in this!
> >
> > +1 on using Jira, components and why not, maybe even epic to have a
> better
> > view on an "AI Roadmap".
> >
> > Updating Confluence will also be a desirable outcome (although I didn't
> > even know about that roadmap, so even if decently recent maybe its
> utility
> > has faded).
> >
> > We'll keep the dev list updated!
> >
> > Cheers
> > --------------------------
> > *Alessandro Benedetti*
> > Director @ Sease Ltd.
> > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
> > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
> >
> > e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
> >
> >
> > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
> > Consulting | Training | Open Source
> >
> > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
> > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
> > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
> > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:44, Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with Vector
> > > search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language model
> > > instead of having to make remote API calls for text-to-vector
> conversion.
> > > Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for this
> > using
> > > ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
> > > collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for
> improvement.
> > >
> > > +1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
> > > communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr meetup
> > > every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could fix a
> day
> > > of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And send
> out
> > a
> > > reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would have
> > > "subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the rest won't
> > miss
> > > out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they so
> wish. I
> > > am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
> > >
> > > - Rahul
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards
> making
> > > > Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> > > >
> > > > > If you
> > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the
> email
> > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > >
> > > > However, I think we should keep the communications on this list
> > itself,
> > > > given how we have communicated in the past.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community
> > > > > members!
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word
> > "vector"
> > > on
> > > > > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > > > > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> > > > > collaboration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent
> > JIRA
> > > > > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes
> > sense
> > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jir
> > a-projects-plugin:components-page
> > <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
> >
> > > > > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> > > > > committers (we have permission).
> > > > >
> > > > > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups?
> > > There
> > > > > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post
> a
> > > > > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If
> > > this
> > > > > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting
> > to
> > > > know
> > > > > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to
> > > attend
> > > > > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ David
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A)
> <
> > > > > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state
> of
> > > > dense
> > > > > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going
> > forward.
> > > > One
> > > > > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space
> between
> > > > Solr
> > > > > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the
> > > > factors
> > > > > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> > > > > visibility /
> > > > > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to
> > > gauge
> > > > > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and
> > > > > semantic
> > > > > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently
> > > working
> > > > > on
> > > > > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered
> search.
> > > If
> > > > > you
> > > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the
> > email
> > > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending
> Berlin
> > > > > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal
> > meeting
> > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be
> > > monthly
> > > > > or
> > > > > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by raghavan m <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hello everyone
1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr
contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as from
end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
I am interested in this. I have been meaning to contribute to the community
in some niche area.
Please count me in. If there is a meetup on this, please add me.
thanks,
*Raghavan*
On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 12:31 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> Exciting to see the responses. Based on replies/feedback, a few
> clarifications:
>
> 1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr
> contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as from
> end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
>
> 2. We will broadcast publicly to the solr dev mailing list (will not be
> creating a new mailing list). I think we will test a monthly meetup format
> starting sometime in late June/early July
>
> 3. Better utilizing Jira and tagging DVS issues would be great. We can
> take a stab at a first iteration of this at first meetup
>
> -Kevin
>
> From: dev@solr.apache.org At: 06/03/25 05:44:31 UTC-4:00To:
> dev@solr.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
>
> Thanks, Kevin, and great to see interest in this!
>
> +1 on using Jira, components and why not, maybe even epic to have a better
> view on an "AI Roadmap".
>
> Updating Confluence will also be a desirable outcome (although I didn't
> even know about that roadmap, so even if decently recent maybe its utility
> has faded).
>
> We'll keep the dev list updated!
>
> Cheers
> --------------------------
> *Alessandro Benedetti*
> Director @ Sease Ltd.
> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>
> e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
>
>
> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>
> Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:44, Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with Vector
> > search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language model
> > instead of having to make remote API calls for text-to-vector conversion.
> > Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for this
> using
> > ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
> > collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for improvement.
> >
> > +1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
> > communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr meetup
> > every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could fix a day
> > of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And send out
> a
> > reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would have
> > "subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the rest won't
> miss
> > out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they so wish. I
> > am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
> >
> > - Rahul
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> > ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards making
> > > Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> > >
> > > > If you
> > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > >
> > > However, I think we should keep the communications on this list
> itself,
> > > given how we have communicated in the past.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community
> > > > members!
> > > >
> > > > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word
> "vector"
> > on
> > > > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > > > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> > > > collaboration.
> > > >
> > > > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent
> JIRA
> > > > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes
> sense
> > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jir
> a-projects-plugin:components-page
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page>
> > > > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> > > > committers (we have permission).
> > > >
> > > > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups?
> > There
> > > > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects
> of
> > > the
> > > > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post a
> > > > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If
> > this
> > > > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting
> to
> > > know
> > > > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to
> > attend
> > > > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> > > >
> > > > ~ David
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> > > > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of
> > > dense
> > > > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going
> forward.
> > > One
> > > > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between
> > > Solr
> > > > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the
> > > factors
> > > > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> > > > visibility /
> > > > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > > > >
> > > > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to
> > gauge
> > > > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and
> > > > semantic
> > > > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently
> > working
> > > > on
> > > > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search.
> > If
> > > > you
> > > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the
> email
> > > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin
> > > > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal
> meeting
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be
> > monthly
> > > > or
> > > > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by "Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A)" <kl...@bloomberg.net>.
Exciting to see the responses. Based on replies/feedback, a few clarifications:
1. Anyone is welcome to participate even if you are not a current solr contributor or even a developer of any sort! Other viewpoints such as from end-users, data science, or even enthusiasts are all valuable.
2. We will broadcast publicly to the solr dev mailing list (will not be creating a new mailing list). I think we will test a monthly meetup format starting sometime in late June/early July
3. Better utilizing Jira and tagging DVS issues would be great. We can take a stab at a first iteration of this at first meetup
-Kevin
From: dev@solr.apache.org At: 06/03/25 05:44:31 UTC-4:00To: dev@solr.apache.org
Subject: Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Thanks, Kevin, and great to see interest in this!
+1 on using Jira, components and why not, maybe even epic to have a better
view on an "AI Roadmap".
Updating Confluence will also be a desirable outcome (although I didn't
even know about that roadmap, so even if decently recent maybe its utility
has faded).
We'll keep the dev list updated!
Cheers
--------------------------
*Alessandro Benedetti*
Director @ Sease Ltd.
*Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
*Apache Solr PMC Member*
e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
*Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
Consulting | Training | Open Source
Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
<https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
<https://github.com/seaseltd>
On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:44, Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with Vector
> search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language model
> instead of having to make remote API calls for text-to-vector conversion.
> Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for this using
> ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
> collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for improvement.
>
> +1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
> communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr meetup
> every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could fix a day
> of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And send out a
> reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would have
> "subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the rest won't miss
> out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they so wish. I
> am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
>
> - Rahul
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards making
> > Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> >
> > > If you
> > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> >
> > However, I think we should keep the communications on this list itself,
> > given how we have communicated in the past.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community
> > > members!
> > >
> > > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word "vector"
> on
> > > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> > > collaboration.
> > >
> > > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent JIRA
> > > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes sense
> --
> > >
> > >
> >
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jir
a-projects-plugin:components-page
> > > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> > > committers (we have permission).
> > >
> > > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups?
> There
> > > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects of
> > the
> > > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post a
> > > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If
> this
> > > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting to
> > know
> > > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to
> attend
> > > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> > >
> > > ~ David
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> > > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of
> > dense
> > > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going forward.
> > One
> > > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between
> > Solr
> > > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the
> > factors
> > > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> > > visibility /
> > > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > > >
> > > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to
> gauge
> > > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and
> > > semantic
> > > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently
> working
> > > on
> > > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search.
> If
> > > you
> > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > >
> > > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin
> > > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal meeting
> at
> > > the
> > > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be
> monthly
> > > or
> > > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all,
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > >
> >
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by Alessandro Benedetti <a....@sease.io>.
Thanks, Kevin, and great to see interest in this!
+1 on using Jira, components and why not, maybe even epic to have a better
view on an "AI Roadmap".
Updating Confluence will also be a desirable outcome (although I didn't
even know about that roadmap, so even if decently recent maybe its utility
has faded).
We'll keep the dev list updated!
Cheers
--------------------------
*Alessandro Benedetti*
Director @ Sease Ltd.
*Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
*Apache Solr PMC Member*
e-mail: a.benedetti@sease.io
*Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
Consulting | Training | Open Source
Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
<https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> | Github
<https://github.com/seaseltd>
On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 04:44, Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with Vector
> search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language model
> instead of having to make remote API calls for text-to-vector conversion.
> Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for this using
> ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
> collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for improvement.
>
> +1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
> communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr meetup
> every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could fix a day
> of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And send out a
> reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would have
> "subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the rest won't miss
> out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they so wish. I
> am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
>
> - Rahul
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards making
> > Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> >
> > > If you
> > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> >
> > However, I think we should keep the communications on this list itself,
> > given how we have communicated in the past.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community
> > > members!
> > >
> > > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word "vector"
> on
> > > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> > > collaboration.
> > >
> > > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent JIRA
> > > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes sense
> --
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
> > > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> > > committers (we have permission).
> > >
> > > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups?
> There
> > > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects of
> > the
> > > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post a
> > > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If
> this
> > > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting to
> > know
> > > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to
> attend
> > > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> > >
> > > ~ David
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> > > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of
> > dense
> > > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going forward.
> > One
> > > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between
> > Solr
> > > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the
> > factors
> > > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> > > visibility /
> > > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > > >
> > > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to
> gauge
> > > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and
> > > semantic
> > > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently
> working
> > > on
> > > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search.
> If
> > > you
> > > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > > >
> > > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin
> > > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal meeting
> at
> > > the
> > > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be
> monthly
> > > or
> > > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all,
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > >
> >
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by Rahul Goswami <ra...@gmail.com>.
Very interested in this space. A personal area of interest with Vector
search in Solr for me is to be able to utilize a local language model
instead of having to make remote API calls for text-to-vector conversion.
Have tinkered with creating a custom UpdateRequestProcessor for this using
ONXX runtime and a couple other approaches, but I am sure with
collaboration from the community, there is a lot of room for improvement.
+1 to Ishan's suggestion of keeping it simple and keeping the
communications on the dev list itself. Just like we have a Solr meetup
every 3rd Wednesday of the month, to begin with, maybe we could fix a day
of the month for dev discussions specific to vector search? And send out a
reminder a week before the meetup. That way people who would have
"subscribed" to a focus group would anyway attend, and the rest won't miss
out on an opportunity to participate or be an audience if they so wish. I
am happy to volunteer for sending out this communication if it helps.
- Rahul
On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 6:31 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards making
> Solr suitable for vector search applications.
>
> > If you
> > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > address you would like for communications going forward.
>
> However, I think we should keep the communications on this list itself,
> given how we have communicated in the past.
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community
> > members!
> >
> > Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word "vector" on
> > it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> > IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> > collaboration.
> >
> > Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent JIRA
> > metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes sense --
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
> > -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> > committers (we have permission).
> >
> > Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups? There
> > doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects of
> the
> > ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post a
> > summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If this
> > isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting to
> know
> > at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to attend
> > the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
> >
> > ~ David
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> > kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of
> dense
> > > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going forward.
> One
> > > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between
> Solr
> > > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the
> factors
> > > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> > visibility /
> > > coordination amongst contributors.
> > >
> > > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to gauge
> > > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and
> > semantic
> > > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently working
> > on
> > > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search. If
> > you
> > > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > > address you would like for communications going forward.
> > >
> > > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin
> > > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal meeting at
> > the
> > > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be monthly
> > or
> > > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> > >
> > > Thanks all,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> >
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
I am very much interested in the area and we have a plan towards making
Solr suitable for vector search applications.
> If you
> would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> address you would like for communications going forward.
However, I think we should keep the communications on this list itself,
given how we have communicated in the past.
On Tue, 3 Jun, 2025, 12:59 am David Smiley, <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
> I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community
> members!
>
> Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word "vector" on
> it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
> IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
> collaboration.
>
> Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent JIRA
> metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes sense --
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
> -- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
> committers (we have permission).
>
> Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups? There
> doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects of the
> ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post a
> summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If this
> isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting to know
> at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to attend
> the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
>
> ~ David
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
> kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of dense
> > vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going forward. One
> > could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between Solr
> > and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the factors
> > possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of
> visibility /
> > coordination amongst contributors.
> >
> > To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to gauge
> > interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and
> semantic
> > search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently working
> on
> > DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search. If
> you
> > would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> > address you would like for communications going forward.
> >
> > Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin
> > Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal meeting at
> the
> > conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be monthly
> or
> > ad-hoc depending on interest.
> >
> > Thanks all,
> >
> > Kevin
>
Re: Solr Dense Vector Dev Group
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
I love seeing this initiative/collaboration come from new community members!
Note that we have a Roadmap and it doesn't even have the word "vector" on
it https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
IMO Updating this roadmap seems to me a useful outcome of this
collaboration.
Another possible task is to create JIRA issues and use consistent JIRA
metadata for "vector" stuff. I think the JIRA "component" makes sense --
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-page
-- there is a bit of grooming to be done in our components by our
committers (we have permission).
Should these meetings be organized just like the monthly meetups? There
doesn't have to be a Confluence page, however IMO the other aspects of the
ceremony are useful -- publicize when the meeting happens and post a
summary somewhere (e.g. dev list) for those that didn't attend. If this
isn't done, a bunch of people may feel left out just simply wanting to know
at a high level what's happening... but don't necessarily want to attend
the meeting. Some months, that applies to me!
~ David
On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 12:57 PM Kevin Liang (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD A) <
kliang78@bloomberg.net> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Alessandro and I were recently chatting about the current state of dense
> vector search in Solr, as well as potential directions going forward. One
> could argue whether there is a gap in the DVS feature space between Solr
> and other vector DB peers, however we both agree that one of the factors
> possibly limiting development in this area for Solr is lack of visibility /
> coordination amongst contributors.
>
> To help encourage new improvements in this area, we would like to gauge
> interest in a recurring group meeting to discuss dense vector and semantic
> search. This would be an open invite to anyone who is currently working on
> DVS, using DVS, or simply just interested in DVS/AI powered search. If you
> would be interested in this, please reply to this email via the email
> address you would like for communications going forward.
>
> Since several of us in the Solr community will be attending Berlin
> Buzzwords in 2 weeks time, we aim to plan our first informal meeting at the
> conference in-person. After that communication/gathering can be monthly or
> ad-hoc depending on interest.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Kevin