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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Bill Johnson <pe...@yahoo.com> on 2003/04/15 04:16:43 UTC
struts el
I'm just wondering if Struts-EL is considered to be
the standard now for working with Struts via taglibs.
It seems to me that is would be true as JSTL is
becoming the standard and thus Struts tags are going
away?
-Bill
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Re: struts el
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <vc...@basebeans.com>.
Ah...
Maybe DynaBeans are not a good idea.
(CVS hot spot, harder to unit test, less reuse for other tags in
general)
my 2c, refundable
.V
(Today, I am shy )
Greg Dunn wrote:
> I would agree with the caveat that JSTL and, AFAIK, Struts-el do not yet
> support DynaBeans.
>
> Does anyone know when this support will be implemented?
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:vc@basebeans.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:43 AM
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: struts el
>
>
> I recommend that everyone use Struts-el html and struts tiles tag only.
> (do not use bean, logic... nested)
>
> They should be done by JSTL tags C and FMT tag.
>
> Note in JSP 2.0 C tag is built in to JSP, so you have it anyway.
>
> .V
>
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
>
>>I'm just wondering if Struts-EL is considered to be
>>the standard now for working with Struts via taglibs.
>>It seems to me that is would be true as JSTL is
>>becoming the standard and thus Struts tags are going
>>away?
>>
>>-Bill
>>
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Re: struts el
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <vc...@basebeans.com>.
If you mean multiple nested bean's that iterate, I can do that in c tag. :-)
For a small fee, I can promote Nested. Bling, bling.
Nested does some neat things. A great value is the nested tutorial to
teach how to do complex forms.
.V
ps: Arron, I wonder where I got the idea of the keyboard monkey? I will
try to get a similar version for you, see if you like. I feel very good
when I code and I see the monkey keep up with me.
Arron Bates wrote:
> Like always, a wonderfully neutral opinion there from Vic! ;)
>
> (Vic gets small payments from Dave in little brown envelopes!)
>
>
> Show me markup of a complex form structure and I'll show you a shorter/easier
> one with nested, let alone the things that _only_ the nested tags can do (Show
> me recursing JSP Struts markup eith EL... no wait... you can't).
>
> :P
>
>
> The bean and logic taglibs are the Struts originals. El and nested scratch
> different itches. Both this and Vic's posts are just opinions. I'd probably
> just disregard both of us!
>
> The most supported tags are the JSTL, but tie-in with Struts would be awkward
> without using the Struts driven html taglib. If you're already up on
> expression things, then JSTL is such your thing, and most likely struts-el is too.
>
> (but if you want more advanced playthings, go struts:nested!... :)
>
> Hopefully this totally biased opinion will offset Vic's totally biased
> opinion, because the truth is somewhere in the middle.
>
> All the best.
>
>
> Arron*.
>
>
> * The views and opinions expressed in this email may or may not be my own...
> or Vic's. :)
>
>
> PS: Vic, love the typing monkey on basebeans.com!
>
>
>
>>I recommend that everyone use Struts-el html and struts tiles tag
>>only.
>>(do not use bean, logic... nested)
>>
>>They should be done by JSTL tags C and FMT tag.
>>
>>Note in JSP 2.0 C tag is built in to JSP, so you have it anyway.
>>
>>.V
>>
>>Bill Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>I'm just wondering if Struts-EL is considered to be
>>>the standard now for working with Struts via taglibs.
>>>It seems to me that is would be true as JSTL is
>>>becoming the standard and thus Struts tags are going
>>>away?
>>>
>>>-Bill
>>>
>>>__________________________________________________
>>>Do you Yahoo!?
>>>The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
>>>http://search.yahoo.com
>>
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Re: struts el
Posted by Arron Bates <st...@keyboardmonkey.com>.
Like always, a wonderfully neutral opinion there from Vic! ;)
(Vic gets small payments from Dave in little brown envelopes!)
Show me markup of a complex form structure and I'll show you a shorter/easier
one with nested, let alone the things that _only_ the nested tags can do (Show
me recursing JSP Struts markup eith EL... no wait... you can't).
:P
The bean and logic taglibs are the Struts originals. El and nested scratch
different itches. Both this and Vic's posts are just opinions. I'd probably
just disregard both of us!
The most supported tags are the JSTL, but tie-in with Struts would be awkward
without using the Struts driven html taglib. If you're already up on
expression things, then JSTL is such your thing, and most likely struts-el is too.
(but if you want more advanced playthings, go struts:nested!... :)
Hopefully this totally biased opinion will offset Vic's totally biased
opinion, because the truth is somewhere in the middle.
All the best.
Arron*.
* The views and opinions expressed in this email may or may not be my own...
or Vic's. :)
PS: Vic, love the typing monkey on basebeans.com!
> I recommend that everyone use Struts-el html and struts tiles tag
> only.
> (do not use bean, logic... nested)
>
> They should be done by JSTL tags C and FMT tag.
>
> Note in JSP 2.0 C tag is built in to JSP, so you have it anyway.
>
> .V
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> > I'm just wondering if Struts-EL is considered to be
> > the standard now for working with Struts via taglibs.
> > It seems to me that is would be true as JSTL is
> > becoming the standard and thus Struts tags are going
> > away?
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
> > http://search.yahoo.com
>
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RE: link parameters
Posted by David Bolsover <ju...@bolsover.com>.
Greg
Take a look at the JSTL <c:url> taglib; this accepts multiple <c:param>
values and could well serve your need.
db
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Dunn [mailto:greg.dunn@mo.nisc.cc]
Sent: 15 April 2003 16:01
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: link parameters
I have a map of generic link parameters in a session scoped 'account' bean
that I use to pass account specific information to my actions as so:
<html:link forward="chartUsage" name="account" property="linkParams">
However, I would like to add an additional parameter which is specific to a
particular link on the JSP (the type of chart to generate).
I'm left thinking I either have to have a separate action for each type,
which seems redundant because in this case the only difference would be the
forward mapping in struts-config. I was hoping I could pass the forward
name as a parameter.
Greg
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link parameters
Posted by Greg Dunn <gr...@mo.nisc.cc>.
I have a map of generic link parameters in a session scoped 'account' bean
that I use to pass account specific information to my actions as so:
<html:link forward="chartUsage" name="account" property="linkParams">
However, I would like to add an additional parameter which is specific to a
particular link on the JSP (the type of chart to generate).
I'm left thinking I either have to have a separate action for each type,
which seems redundant because in this case the only difference would be the
forward mapping in struts-config. I was hoping I could pass the forward
name as a parameter.
Greg
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RE: struts el
Posted by Greg Dunn <gr...@mo.nisc.cc>.
I would agree with the caveat that JSTL and, AFAIK, Struts-el do not yet
support DynaBeans.
Does anyone know when this support will be implemented?
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:vc@basebeans.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:43 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: struts el
I recommend that everyone use Struts-el html and struts tiles tag only.
(do not use bean, logic... nested)
They should be done by JSTL tags C and FMT tag.
Note in JSP 2.0 C tag is built in to JSP, so you have it anyway.
.V
Bill Johnson wrote:
> I'm just wondering if Struts-EL is considered to be
> the standard now for working with Struts via taglibs.
> It seems to me that is would be true as JSTL is
> becoming the standard and thus Struts tags are going
> away?
>
> -Bill
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
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Re: struts el
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <vc...@basebeans.com>.
I recommend that everyone use Struts-el html and struts tiles tag only.
(do not use bean, logic... nested)
They should be done by JSTL tags C and FMT tag.
Note in JSP 2.0 C tag is built in to JSP, so you have it anyway.
.V
Bill Johnson wrote:
> I'm just wondering if Struts-EL is considered to be
> the standard now for working with Struts via taglibs.
> It seems to me that is would be true as JSTL is
> becoming the standard and thus Struts tags are going
> away?
>
> -Bill
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
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