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Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Just a quick note to see if others experienced this too.

When I go to xml.apache.org/cocoon now, both at home and in the office, I
see a thin white line separating the top blue banner and the navigation menu
on the right. It looks like a bad match of the table tags.

BTW, I love the new cleaner and lighter interface.

Ivelin





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Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Bert Van Kets <be...@visitronics.be>.
No probs on win2K with IE6
Bert

At 07:57 27/03/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
> > From: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ni...@apache.org>
> >
> >
> > > From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
> > >
> > > >  I see a thin white line separating the top blue banner
> > > > and the navigation menu
> > > > on the right. It looks like a bad match of the table tags.
> > >
> > > ? The pages look good to me on Mozilla0.99,IE6 and NS4.7.
> > > What browser are you using? (BTW, the navigation is on the left... which
> > > makes me think that you are maybe on the inside! ;-)
> >
> > It's just that IE has it backwards ;))
> > The line shows w/ IE5.5
> > I confirm that NS 6.2 doesn't show it.
>
>Strange, since the older Netscape 4.7 has no problems...
>try fixing it and tell me what to change, I don't have IE5.5 here.
>Thanks :-)
>
> > > > BTW, I love the new cleaner and lighter interface.
> > >
> > > Then you'll *love* the forrest skin.
> > > Tell your pal Konstantin to get going on that, he recently left a bit
> > > alone us on Forrest for Cocoon :,-(   ;-P
> >
> > I bet his secret thoughts are to get form handling in Cocoon, so that
> > Forrest developers won't have to struggle with custom form handling. ;-)
> > I would like to help with Forrest myself, right after we close form
>handling
> > release 1.
>
>We will never see you then, form handling is an infinite universe ;-)
>
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Re: Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
From: "Robert Koberg" <ro...@koberg.com>

> I just checked out the home page. when I bump up the cocoon page's text
> size, I see:
> http://koberg.com/c2home.gif [zoom = 150%]
> [can still read it comfortably, but should not break the design]
> When zoomed to 120% it look fine.
>
> quick glance at the HTML source:
> - It also uses tables way too much (you should avoid tables for layout
> whenever possible).
> - There seems to be a lot of markup (table stuff) on the page that does
> not need to be there.
> - why not LINK to the CSS instead of writing it on each page and having
> the user download it over and over again?

The initial style was made to remain fixed, and in this version we just made
it lighter.

I agree with your points, and in fact an effort is underway to make the new
xml.apache site called Forrest.
It won't be long before we get a new style :-)

forrest-dev-subscribe@xml.apache.org

If you want to patch the current version, I will commit the changes, but
IMHO it's better to focus on the new stuff.

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Re: Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Robert Koberg <ro...@koberg.com>.
Hi,

FYI & FWIW (the site works fine, these are just nit-picky things...)

I just checked out the home page. when I bump up the cocoon page's text 
size, I see:
http://koberg.com/c2home.gif [zoom = 150%]
[can still read it comfortably, but should not break the design]
When zoomed to 120% it look fine.

quick glance at the HTML source:
- It also uses tables way too much (you should avoid tables for layout 
whenever possible).
- There seems to be a lot of markup (table stuff) on the page that does 
not need to be there.
- why not LINK to the CSS instead of writing it on each page and having 
the user download it over and over again?

best,
-Rob



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Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Ivelin Ivanov <iv...@iname.com>.
I think this makes it a little better w/ IE 5.5 (NS 6.2 is still fine):

replace:
    <TD vAlign=top align=left width="100%"
background=cocoon-index_files/line.gif colSpan=2 height=0>
       <IMG height=5       hspace=0 src="cocoon-index_files/line.gif"
width=1 align=left border=0 rowSpan=3></TD>

with:

    <TD vAlign=top align=left width="100%"
background=cocoon-index_files/line.gif colSpan=2 rowspan=1 height=0/>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ni...@apache.org>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks


> From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
> > From: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ni...@apache.org>
> >
> >
> > > From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
> > >
> > > >  I see a thin white line separating the top blue banner
> > > > and the navigation menu
> > > > on the right. It looks like a bad match of the table tags.
> > >
> > > ? The pages look good to me on Mozilla0.99,IE6 and NS4.7.
> > > What browser are you using? (BTW, the navigation is on the left...
which
> > > makes me think that you are maybe on the inside! ;-)
> >
> > It's just that IE has it backwards ;))
> > The line shows w/ IE5.5
> > I confirm that NS 6.2 doesn't show it.
>
> Strange, since the older Netscape 4.7 has no problems...
> try fixing it and tell me what to change, I don't have IE5.5 here.
> Thanks :-)
>
> > > > BTW, I love the new cleaner and lighter interface.
> > >
> > > Then you'll *love* the forrest skin.
> > > Tell your pal Konstantin to get going on that, he recently left a bit
> > > alone us on Forrest for Cocoon :,-(   ;-P
> >
> > I bet his secret thoughts are to get form handling in Cocoon, so that
> > Forrest developers won't have to struggle with custom form handling. ;-)
> > I would like to help with Forrest myself, right after we close form
> handling
> > release 1.
>
> We will never see you then, form handling is an infinite universe ;-)
>
> --
> Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
>             - verba volant, scripta manent -
>    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
> From: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ni...@apache.org>
>
>
> > From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
> >
> > >  I see a thin white line separating the top blue banner
> > > and the navigation menu
> > > on the right. It looks like a bad match of the table tags.
> >
> > ? The pages look good to me on Mozilla0.99,IE6 and NS4.7.
> > What browser are you using? (BTW, the navigation is on the left... which
> > makes me think that you are maybe on the inside! ;-)
>
> It's just that IE has it backwards ;))
> The line shows w/ IE5.5
> I confirm that NS 6.2 doesn't show it.

Strange, since the older Netscape 4.7 has no problems...
try fixing it and tell me what to change, I don't have IE5.5 here.
Thanks :-)

> > > BTW, I love the new cleaner and lighter interface.
> >
> > Then you'll *love* the forrest skin.
> > Tell your pal Konstantin to get going on that, he recently left a bit
> > alone us on Forrest for Cocoon :,-(   ;-P
>
> I bet his secret thoughts are to get form handling in Cocoon, so that
> Forrest developers won't have to struggle with custom form handling. ;-)
> I would like to help with Forrest myself, right after we close form
handling
> release 1.

We will never see you then, form handling is an infinite universe ;-)

--
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Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Ivelin Ivanov <iv...@iname.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <ni...@apache.org>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>; "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks


> From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>
>
> > Just a quick note to see if others experienced this too.
> >
> > When I go to xml.apache.org/cocoon now, both at home and in the office,
I
> > see a thin white line separating the top blue banner and the navigation
> menu
> > on the right. It looks like a bad match of the table tags.
>
> ? The pages look good to me on Mozilla0.99,IE6 and NS4.7.
> What browser are you using? (BTW, the navigation is on the left... which
> makes me think that you are maybe on the inside! ;-)

It's just that IE has it backwards ;))
The line shows w/ IE5.5
I confirm that NS 6.2 doesn't show it.

>
> > BTW, I love the new cleaner and lighter interface.
>
> Then you'll *love* the forrest skin.
> Tell your pal Konstantin to get going on that, he recently left a bit
alone
> us on Forrest for Cocoon :,-(   ;-P

I bet his secret thoughts are to get form handling in Cocoon, so that
Forrest developers won't have to struggle with custom form handling. ;-)
I would like to help with Forrest myself, right after we close form handling
release 1.



Ivelin



>
> --
> Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
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Re: Re:Cocoon 2.0.2 looks

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <iv...@iname.com>

> Just a quick note to see if others experienced this too.
>
> When I go to xml.apache.org/cocoon now, both at home and in the office, I
> see a thin white line separating the top blue banner and the navigation
menu
> on the right. It looks like a bad match of the table tags.

? The pages look good to me on Mozilla0.99,IE6 and NS4.7.
What browser are you using? (BTW, the navigation is on the left... which
makes me think that you are maybe on the inside! ;-)

> BTW, I love the new cleaner and lighter interface.

Then you'll *love* the forrest skin.
Tell your pal Konstantin to get going on that, he recently left a bit alone
us on Forrest for Cocoon :,-(   ;-P

--
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
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