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Posted to users@netbeans.apache.org by Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com> on 2020/07/06 22:55:38 UTC
php development
Hi all,
Perhaps I'm finally reaching the late 20th century...
I've gotten a web hosting package (starter kit). It has mysql and php;
php 5.6 by default, can select 7.0. (MySql seems to be 5.6, coincidence?)
Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to set
up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
Is there any disadvantage to selecting php 7.0?
-ernie
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Re: php development
Posted by Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com>.
I lost track of this...
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4679
-ernie
On 7/11/2020 1:02 AM, Antonio wrote:
> That is a bug!
>
> El 10/07/2020 a las 3:56, Ernie Rael escribió:
>> Perfect, many thanks. (and lots to go through)
>>
>> It's probably worth noting that the main page,
>> https://netbeans.apache.org, has a pointer for PHP that goes to
>> https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php/index.html where there is far
>> less information. I don't know if this is intentional, or still in
>> progress or ...
>>
>> -ernie
>>
>> On 7/8/2020 12:05 PM, antonio wrote:
>>> I don't think we have NB-12 specific documents yet.
>>>
>>> Maybe you want to take a look to the NetBeans PHP Learning Trail here:
>>>
>>> https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php.html
>>>
>>> Of course, any enhancements to the documentation are welcome :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> El 7/7/20 a las 0:55, Ernie Rael escribió:
>>>> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
>>>> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff
>>>> locally?
>>>
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Re: php development
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
That is a bug!
El 10/07/2020 a las 3:56, Ernie Rael escribió:
> Perfect, many thanks. (and lots to go through)
>
> It's probably worth noting that the main page,
> https://netbeans.apache.org, has a pointer for PHP that goes to
> https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php/index.html where there is far
> less information. I don't know if this is intentional, or still in
> progress or ...
>
> -ernie
>
> On 7/8/2020 12:05 PM, antonio wrote:
>> I don't think we have NB-12 specific documents yet.
>>
>> Maybe you want to take a look to the NetBeans PHP Learning Trail here:
>>
>> https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php.html
>>
>> Of course, any enhancements to the documentation are welcome :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Antonio
>>
>> El 7/7/20 a las 0:55, Ernie Rael escribió:
>>> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
>>> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
>>
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Re: php development
Posted by Juan Algaba <ja...@colef.mx>.
> I don't know if this is intentional, or still in progress or ...
You're right, php.html has more info and more recent commits than php/index.html
https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/php.asciidoc
https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/kb/docs/php/index.asciidoc
But I don't know if it's a matter of changing the link on the main
page or merging php.html into php/index.html (after all,
php/index.html makes more sense since the java
tutorial is java/inddex.html)
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 6:56 PM Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com> wrote:
>
> Perfect, many thanks. (and lots to go through)
>
> It's probably worth noting that the main page,
> https://netbeans.apache.org, has a pointer for PHP that goes to
> https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php/index.html where there is far
> less information. I don't know if this is intentional, or still in
> progress or ...
>
> -ernie
>
> On 7/8/2020 12:05 PM, antonio wrote:
> > I don't think we have NB-12 specific documents yet.
> >
> > Maybe you want to take a look to the NetBeans PHP Learning Trail here:
> >
> > https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php.html
> >
> > Of course, any enhancements to the documentation are welcome :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Antonio
> >
> > El 7/7/20 a las 0:55, Ernie Rael escribió:
> >> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
> >> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
> >
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Re: php development
Posted by Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com>.
Perfect, many thanks. (and lots to go through)
It's probably worth noting that the main page,
https://netbeans.apache.org, has a pointer for PHP that goes to
https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php/index.html where there is far
less information. I don't know if this is intentional, or still in
progress or ...
-ernie
On 7/8/2020 12:05 PM, antonio wrote:
> I don't think we have NB-12 specific documents yet.
>
> Maybe you want to take a look to the NetBeans PHP Learning Trail here:
>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php.html
>
> Of course, any enhancements to the documentation are welcome :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 7/7/20 a las 0:55, Ernie Rael escribió:
>> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
>> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
>
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Re: php development
Posted by antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
I don't think we have NB-12 specific documents yet.
Maybe you want to take a look to the NetBeans PHP Learning Trail here:
https://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php.html
Of course, any enhancements to the documentation are welcome :-)
Cheers,
Antonio
El 7/7/20 a las 0:55, Ernie Rael escribió:
> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to set
> up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
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Re: php development
Posted by Juan Algaba <ja...@colef.mx>.
> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to set
> up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
Here you go: http://netbeans.apache.org/kb/docs/php/
You'll see PHP 5 mentioned a lot, but just ignore that and use 7.x
(where x is the newest your host provides), the instructions haven't
changed significantly.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 8:03 PM Alan <ne...@ambitonline.com> wrote:
>
> That's a question with a pretty broad scope. There isn't much that's Netbeans specific. My preferred approach is to set up a local development environment with Apache and MySQL, but there's a single-threaded web server built into PHP as well. Getting the xdebug set up seems to cause the most trouble, but there are lots of resources for that.
>
> After that it's really just a matter of telling Netbeans where your php.exe is and which version to do syntax checking for.
>
> If you are debugging on your host, they probably won't have xdebug available and you're stuck with debugging with echo and print_r();.
>
> Beyond the basics, the built-in composer interface is a little clunky and runs in non-interactive mode. For this reason I personally prefer to use composer from the command line.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> On 2020-07-06 21:20, Ernie Rael wrote:
>
> On 7/6/2020 4:47 PM, Alan wrote:
>
>
> 5.6 and 7.0 are ancient, unsupported.You should be running 7.3 at least, and 7.4 offers more great features and performance.
>
> Thanks for the info, but I've got 6 months. I was in a rush, my bad for not doing up front research. I will certainly keep your words in mind and plan on changing hosts. Fortunately my needs are simple for the foreseeable future. Now that I look at current versions, I'm embarrassed that I got taken so badly. But that's orthogonal to what I need now. (But any tips on how to find a good host appreciated)
>
> Still, my main concern now is setting up NetBeans for php/mysql dev. I'm hoping to get some links to best practice with NB docs so I won't start digging in the wrong spot.
>
> -ernie
>
> If your starter kit package doesn't offer a current PHP, you have a crap host. Likely there will be many other problems. I strongly suggest finding a better one. [my day job is web hosting, I have seen many horror stories from cheap hosts].
>
> On 2020-07-06 18:55, Ernie Rael wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Perhaps I'm finally reaching the late 20th century...
>
> I've gotten a web hosting package (starter kit). It has mysql and php; php 5.6 by default, can select 7.0. (MySql seems to be 5.6, coincidence?)
>
> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
>
> Is there any disadvantage to selecting php 7.0?
>
> -ernie
>
>
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Re: php development
Posted by Alan <ne...@ambitonline.com>.
That's a question with a pretty broad scope. There isn't much that's
Netbeans specific. My preferred approach is to set up a local
development environment with Apache and MySQL, but there's a
single-threaded web server built into PHP as well. Getting the xdebug
set up seems to cause the most trouble, but there are lots of resources
for that.
After that it's really just a matter of telling Netbeans where your
php.exe is and which version to do syntax checking for.
If you are debugging on your host, they probably won't have xdebug
available and you're stuck with debugging with echo and print_r();.
Beyond the basics, the built-in composer interface is a little clunky
and runs in non-interactive mode. For this reason I personally prefer to
use composer from the command line.
Hope that helps...
On 2020-07-06 21:20, Ernie Rael wrote:
> On 7/6/2020 4:47 PM, Alan wrote:
>>
>> 5.6 and 7.0 are ancient, unsupported.You should be running 7.3 at
>> least, and 7.4 offers more great features and performance.
>>
> Thanks for the info, but I've got 6 months. I was in a rush, my bad
> for not doing up front research. I will certainly keep your words in
> mind and plan on changing hosts. Fortunately my needs are simple for
> the foreseeable future. Now that I look at current versions, I'm
> embarrassed that I got taken so badly. But that's orthogonal to what I
> need now. (But any tips on how to find a good host appreciated)
>
> Still, my main concern now is setting up NetBeans for php/mysql dev.
> I'm hoping to get some links to best practice with NB docs so I won't
> start digging in the wrong spot.
>
> -ernie
>
>> If your starter kit package doesn't offer a current PHP, you have a
>> crap host. Likely there will be many other problems. I strongly
>> suggest finding a better one. [my day job is web hosting, I have seen
>> many horror stories from cheap hosts].
>>
>> On 2020-07-06 18:55, Ernie Rael wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'm finally reaching the late 20th century...
>>>
>>> I've gotten a web hosting package (starter kit). It has mysql and
>>> php; php 5.6 by default, can select 7.0. (MySql seems to be 5.6,
>>> coincidence?)
>>>
>>> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
>>> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
>>>
>>> Is there any disadvantage to selecting php 7.0?
>>>
>>> -ernie
>>>
>>>
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Re: php development
Posted by Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com>.
On 7/6/2020 4:47 PM, Alan wrote:
>
> 5.6 and 7.0 are ancient, unsupported.You should be running 7.3 at
> least, and 7.4 offers more great features and performance.
>
Thanks for the info, but I've got 6 months. I was in a rush, my bad for
not doing up front research. I will certainly keep your words in mind
and plan on changing hosts. Fortunately my needs are simple for the
foreseeable future. Now that I look at current versions, I'm embarrassed
that I got taken so badly. But that's orthogonal to what I need now.
(But any tips on how to find a good host appreciated)
Still, my main concern now is setting up NetBeans for php/mysql dev. I'm
hoping to get some links to best practice with NB docs so I won't start
digging in the wrong spot.
-ernie
> If your starter kit package doesn't offer a current PHP, you have a
> crap host. Likely there will be many other problems. I strongly
> suggest finding a better one. [my day job is web hosting, I have seen
> many horror stories from cheap hosts].
>
> On 2020-07-06 18:55, Ernie Rael wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Perhaps I'm finally reaching the late 20th century...
>>
>> I've gotten a web hosting package (starter kit). It has mysql and
>> php; php 5.6 by default, can select 7.0. (MySql seems to be 5.6,
>> coincidence?)
>>
>> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
>> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
>>
>> Is there any disadvantage to selecting php 7.0?
>>
>> -ernie
>>
>>
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Re: php development
Posted by Alan <ne...@ambitonline.com>.
5.6 and 7.0 are ancient, unsupported.You should be running 7.3 at least,
and 7.4 offers more great features and performance.
If your starter kit package doesn't offer a current PHP, you have a crap
host. Likely there will be many other problems. I strongly suggest
finding a better one. [my day job is web hosting, I have seen many
horror stories from cheap hosts].
On 2020-07-06 18:55, Ernie Rael wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Perhaps I'm finally reaching the late 20th century...
>
> I've gotten a web hosting package (starter kit). It has mysql and php;
> php 5.6 by default, can select 7.0. (MySql seems to be 5.6, coincidence?)
>
> Will someone(kindly or otherwise) point me to docs that show how to
> set up NB-12 with a server to write/debug/test php/mysql stuff locally?
>
> Is there any disadvantage to selecting php 7.0?
>
> -ernie
>
>
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