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js library suggestion
I don't know all the inner workings, but from what I saw of Form.js
(which is awesome work btw), I really feel like you guys are missing
out on another library that provides tons of support in this area,
outside of pure ajax models as well..
This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
jesse
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Re: js library suggestion
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
crap..good point..Sounds like a head-ache. You could somehow make it
"configurable", but then you'd start getting all kinds of
nightmare-ish support requests for incompatible library versions. I
dunno. How does ruby on rails manage this? I might check later and
report back if there's anything worth reporting.
j
On 8/24/05, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's funny; I've been suddenly bombarded by pointers to this library.
> It looks nice and well thought out.
>
> Just looked at the Prototype library and the good news is that its
> license is fully public. However, if we embed a version of Prototype
> into Tapestry, we may cause more harm than good ... in that
> applications that want to use it will be locked into a specific
> version of Prototype.
>
> On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't know all the inner workings, but from what I saw of Form.js
> > (which is awesome work btw), I really feel like you guys are missing
> > out on another library that provides tons of support in this area,
> > outside of pure ajax models as well..
> >
> > This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
> > of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
> > bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
> >
> > http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
> >
> > jesse
> >
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>
>
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> Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
> Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
>
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> and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
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Re: js library suggestion
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
I meant to provide a link in that last post.
http://openrico.org/rico/demos.page?demo=ricoEffectSize.html
On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I went and looked at the ruby on rails source, and as imagined,
> prototype is just part of the source trunk.
>
> If you included it, using some global sort of way that would allow
> people to "swap out" their own versions of prototype to use (at their
> own risk) it might not be ~that~ much of a hardship. I doubt you guys
> would initially be using any of the features that are likely to go
> under more and more development, but it could just be a "this is the
> version we support, use others at your own risk" sort of thing. Easy
> for me to say though ;)
>
> It would just be easy to imagine something like validation benefiting
> from this a great deal..Instead of waiting for the user to hit the
> form submit button, it could be triggered by them leaving the field,
> and if found to in error do some "effects" to highlight the field, and
> even possibly pop in a little hint as to what the field should have
> above it, that is displayed only for a few seconds (or minute, or
> whatever..)
>
> Something like the little yellow box that appears on this page when
> you click on the "Size Me" component. It just appears out of nowhere
> and then fades away after a couple of seconds. super cool.
>
> I will content myself with providing decorator behaviour over in tacos
> for now I guess. :(
>
> j
> On 8/24/05, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's funny; I've been suddenly bombarded by pointers to this library.
> > It looks nice and well thought out.
> >
> > Just looked at the Prototype library and the good news is that its
> > license is fully public. However, if we embed a version of Prototype
> > into Tapestry, we may cause more harm than good ... in that
> > applications that want to use it will be locked into a specific
> > version of Prototype.
> >
> > On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I don't know all the inner workings, but from what I saw of Form.js
> > > (which is awesome work btw), I really feel like you guys are missing
> > > out on another library that provides tons of support in this area,
> > > outside of pure ajax models as well..
> > >
> > > This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
> > > of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
> > > bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
> > >
> > > http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
> > >
> > > jesse
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> > Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
> > Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
> >
> > Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> > and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
> >
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Re: js library suggestion
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
I went and looked at the ruby on rails source, and as imagined,
prototype is just part of the source trunk.
If you included it, using some global sort of way that would allow
people to "swap out" their own versions of prototype to use (at their
own risk) it might not be ~that~ much of a hardship. I doubt you guys
would initially be using any of the features that are likely to go
under more and more development, but it could just be a "this is the
version we support, use others at your own risk" sort of thing. Easy
for me to say though ;)
It would just be easy to imagine something like validation benefiting
from this a great deal..Instead of waiting for the user to hit the
form submit button, it could be triggered by them leaving the field,
and if found to in error do some "effects" to highlight the field, and
even possibly pop in a little hint as to what the field should have
above it, that is displayed only for a few seconds (or minute, or
whatever..)
Something like the little yellow box that appears on this page when
you click on the "Size Me" component. It just appears out of nowhere
and then fades away after a couple of seconds. super cool.
I will content myself with providing decorator behaviour over in tacos
for now I guess. :(
j
On 8/24/05, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's funny; I've been suddenly bombarded by pointers to this library.
> It looks nice and well thought out.
>
> Just looked at the Prototype library and the good news is that its
> license is fully public. However, if we embed a version of Prototype
> into Tapestry, we may cause more harm than good ... in that
> applications that want to use it will be locked into a specific
> version of Prototype.
>
> On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't know all the inner workings, but from what I saw of Form.js
> > (which is awesome work btw), I really feel like you guys are missing
> > out on another library that provides tons of support in this area,
> > outside of pure ajax models as well..
> >
> > This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
> > of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
> > bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
> >
> > http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
> >
> > jesse
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
> Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
>
> Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
>
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Re: js library suggestion
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
It's funny; I've been suddenly bombarded by pointers to this library.
It looks nice and well thought out.
Just looked at the Prototype library and the good news is that its
license is fully public. However, if we embed a version of Prototype
into Tapestry, we may cause more harm than good ... in that
applications that want to use it will be locked into a specific
version of Prototype.
On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know all the inner workings, but from what I saw of Form.js
> (which is awesome work btw), I really feel like you guys are missing
> out on another library that provides tons of support in this area,
> outside of pure ajax models as well..
>
> This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
> of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
> bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
>
> http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
>
> jesse
>
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Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
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Re: js library suggestion
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
Yes ;) Thank you http://del.icio.us . (I can send you my bookmark name
if you want lots of other goodies..)
On 8/24/05, Viktor Szathmary <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
> > of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
> > bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
> >
> > http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
>
> wow, look at that! actual documentation for Prototype.js :)
>
> v.
>
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Re: js library suggestion
Posted by Viktor Szathmary <ph...@gmail.com>.
On 8/24/05, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is an un-official reference guide that does a fairly decent job
> of outlining what you can do, the form stuff is closer to the
> bottom...The library is definitely pretty well tested and reliable..
>
> http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html
wow, look at that! actual documentation for Prototype.js :)
v.
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