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[all] Is this disguised fishing?
Dear all,
please find below a message I've received. It was sent to my apache
address, which I barely use (but can easily be retrieved from my
apache login).
I'm just wondering whether this message might be a (very clever !)
attempt at fishing. I don't think so, it does not have the usual
flavour. Is it safe to answer? Has anyone else received such a
message?
Is there someone at Apache in charge of security which should be
informed of this message?
Thanks for your answers,
Sébastien
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Yida Tao <yi...@gmail.com>
Date: 2012/7/12
Subject: Help developers understand program changes -- Seeking your feedback
To: celestin@apache.org
Dear Sébastien,
This is Yida Tao, a PhD student of Computer Science and Engineering in
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. I’m currently working
on a research project using Apache Commons Math as an evaluation
subject.
Our observation is that program changes (or commits) sometimes mix
several issues together. For example, a single commit may actually fix
three different bugs, or it may perform some refactorings, fix a minor
bug and then implement a new feature. Such commit (we refer to it as
the “composite change”) might reduce the change’s understandability
and make the code review much harder.
Therefore, our research goal is to automatically decompose a composite
change into “slices”; each slice is aligned with one particular issue
addressed. For example, if a change fixes three different bugs, we
would like to see this change to be decomposed into three “slices”,
each corresponds to one bug-fix.
We would like to invite you to a short survey (around 5 - 10 minutes)
on our research result. In particular, below is an example of applying
our technique on one of your commits (revision 1210359 for Apache
Commons Math). Our technique automatically decomposes your commit into
3 slices. You can view all the slices of the commit at
http://webproject1.cse.ust.hk/ChangeSlicing/Survey/Math1210359.aspx
We really appreciate it if you could let us know your opinions on the
following two questions by replying this email:
1 Do you think the above example of slices is accurate?
(Please assign a value from 0 to 4: 0 - Not accurate at all, 1 - Not
accurate, 2 - Not sure, 3 - Accurate, 4 - Very accurate)
2 Do you think in general sliced changes (by our automatic change
slicing technique) would be useful for other developers to review and
understand your changes?
(Please assign a value from 0 to 4: 0 - Not useful at all, 1 - Not
useful, 2 - Not sure, 3 - Useful, 4 - Very useful)
Thank you for your time! Your feedback is very valuable to us!
Best Regards,
Yida Tao
PhD student
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Email: idagoo@cse.ust.hk
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Re: [all] Is this disguised fishing?
Posted by Sébastien Brisard <se...@m4x.org>.
Hi,
I have indeed redirected her to this mailing list. Let's see if she
does the move.
Best regards,
Sébastien
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Re: [all] Is this disguised fishing?
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@gmail.com>.
On 7/12/12 9:06 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> This sounds like a real student. I try to help these people and steer them
> gently to the public lists.
>
> Everybody was new once and we owe it to those who helped us to help others
> that reach out to us.
+1
Phil
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Sébastien Brisard <
> sebastien.brisard@m4x.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>> I have received messages like that in the past. I just don't answer
>> them.
>> That's quite wise indeed: no safety issue! On the other hand, if she
>> really is a PhD student, she might need a bit of feedback...
>> I like Adrian's answer: she could indeed post this message on the dev
>> ML, and would get much wider feedback on question #2.
>>
>> Thanks for both taking the time to answer!
>> Sébastien
>>
>>
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Re: [all] Is this disguised fishing?
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
This sounds like a real student. I try to help these people and steer them
gently to the public lists.
Everybody was new once and we owe it to those who helped us to help others
that reach out to us.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Sébastien Brisard <
sebastien.brisard@m4x.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> >
> > I have received messages like that in the past. I just don't answer
> them.
> >
>
> That's quite wise indeed: no safety issue! On the other hand, if she
> really is a PhD student, she might need a bit of feedback...
> I like Adrian's answer: she could indeed post this message on the dev
> ML, and would get much wider feedback on question #2.
>
> Thanks for both taking the time to answer!
> Sébastien
>
>
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Re: [all] Is this disguised fishing?
Posted by Sébastien Brisard <se...@m4x.org>.
Hello,
>
> I have received messages like that in the past. I just don't answer them.
>
That's quite wise indeed: no safety issue! On the other hand, if she
really is a PhD student, she might need a bit of feedback...
I like Adrian's answer: she could indeed post this message on the dev
ML, and would get much wider feedback on question #2.
Thanks for both taking the time to answer!
Sébastien
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Re: [all] Is this disguised fishing?
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
I have received messages like that in the past. I just don't answer them.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sébastien Brisard <ce...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear all,
> please find below a message I've received. It was sent to my apache
> address, which I barely use (but can easily be retrieved from my
> apache login).
> I'm just wondering whether this message might be a (very clever !)
> attempt at fishing. I don't think so, it does not have the usual
> flavour. Is it safe to answer? Has anyone else received such a
> message?
> Is there someone at Apache in charge of security which should be
> informed of this message?
>
> Thanks for your answers,
> Sébastien
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Yida Tao <yi...@gmail.com>
> Date: 2012/7/12
> Subject: Help developers understand program changes -- Seeking your feedback
> To: celestin@apache.org
>
>
> Dear Sébastien,
>
> This is Yida Tao, a PhD student of Computer Science and Engineering in
> Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. I’m currently working
> on a research project using Apache Commons Math as an evaluation
> subject.
>
> Our observation is that program changes (or commits) sometimes mix
> several issues together. For example, a single commit may actually fix
> three different bugs, or it may perform some refactorings, fix a minor
> bug and then implement a new feature. Such commit (we refer to it as
> the “composite change”) might reduce the change’s understandability
> and make the code review much harder.
>
> Therefore, our research goal is to automatically decompose a composite
> change into “slices”; each slice is aligned with one particular issue
> addressed. For example, if a change fixes three different bugs, we
> would like to see this change to be decomposed into three “slices”,
> each corresponds to one bug-fix.
>
> We would like to invite you to a short survey (around 5 - 10 minutes)
> on our research result. In particular, below is an example of applying
> our technique on one of your commits (revision 1210359 for Apache
> Commons Math). Our technique automatically decomposes your commit into
> 3 slices. You can view all the slices of the commit at
> http://webproject1.cse.ust.hk/ChangeSlicing/Survey/Math1210359.aspx
>
> We really appreciate it if you could let us know your opinions on the
> following two questions by replying this email:
>
> 1 Do you think the above example of slices is accurate?
> (Please assign a value from 0 to 4: 0 - Not accurate at all, 1 - Not
> accurate, 2 - Not sure, 3 - Accurate, 4 - Very accurate)
>
> 2 Do you think in general sliced changes (by our automatic change
> slicing technique) would be useful for other developers to review and
> understand your changes?
> (Please assign a value from 0 to 4: 0 - Not useful at all, 1 - Not
> useful, 2 - Not sure, 3 - Useful, 4 - Very useful)
>
> Thank you for your time! Your feedback is very valuable to us!
>
> Best Regards,
> Yida Tao
> PhD student
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
> Email: idagoo@cse.ust.hk
>
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Re: [all] Is this disguised fishing?
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
I haven't received that specific email, but I always reply back that any
discussions about Apache projects should be kept on the mailing lists.
-Adrian
On 7/12/2012 1:48 PM, Sébastien Brisard wrote:
> Dear all,
> please find below a message I've received. It was sent to my apache
> address, which I barely use (but can easily be retrieved from my
> apache login).
> I'm just wondering whether this message might be a (very clever !)
> attempt at fishing. I don't think so, it does not have the usual
> flavour. Is it safe to answer? Has anyone else received such a
> message?
> Is there someone at Apache in charge of security which should be
> informed of this message?
>
> Thanks for your answers,
> Sébastien
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Yida Tao <yi...@gmail.com>
> Date: 2012/7/12
> Subject: Help developers understand program changes -- Seeking your feedback
> To: celestin@apache.org
>
>
> Dear Sébastien,
>
> This is Yida Tao, a PhD student of Computer Science and Engineering in
> Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. I’m currently working
> on a research project using Apache Commons Math as an evaluation
> subject.
>
> Our observation is that program changes (or commits) sometimes mix
> several issues together. For example, a single commit may actually fix
> three different bugs, or it may perform some refactorings, fix a minor
> bug and then implement a new feature. Such commit (we refer to it as
> the “composite change”) might reduce the change’s understandability
> and make the code review much harder.
>
> Therefore, our research goal is to automatically decompose a composite
> change into “slices”; each slice is aligned with one particular issue
> addressed. For example, if a change fixes three different bugs, we
> would like to see this change to be decomposed into three “slices”,
> each corresponds to one bug-fix.
>
> We would like to invite you to a short survey (around 5 - 10 minutes)
> on our research result. In particular, below is an example of applying
> our technique on one of your commits (revision 1210359 for Apache
> Commons Math). Our technique automatically decomposes your commit into
> 3 slices. You can view all the slices of the commit at
> http://webproject1.cse.ust.hk/ChangeSlicing/Survey/Math1210359.aspx
>
> We really appreciate it if you could let us know your opinions on the
> following two questions by replying this email:
>
> 1 Do you think the above example of slices is accurate?
> (Please assign a value from 0 to 4: 0 - Not accurate at all, 1 - Not
> accurate, 2 - Not sure, 3 - Accurate, 4 - Very accurate)
>
> 2 Do you think in general sliced changes (by our automatic change
> slicing technique) would be useful for other developers to review and
> understand your changes?
> (Please assign a value from 0 to 4: 0 - Not useful at all, 1 - Not
> useful, 2 - Not sure, 3 - Useful, 4 - Very useful)
>
> Thank you for your time! Your feedback is very valuable to us!
>
> Best Regards,
> Yida Tao
> PhD student
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
> Email: idagoo@cse.ust.hk
>
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