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[DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Hi all,
The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday 13th, 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I would volunteer as a mentor.
Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3 project ideas already:
OData $search Query Parser for Olingo https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
Best Regards,
Christian
RE: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by Mark Stafford <ma...@microsoft.com>.
Hey Ramesh, I don't know whether or not we've moved the code to GitHub yet, but you can at least find a copy of it on CodePlex: http://odatavalidation.codeplex.com/. As mentioned below, I'm not averse to recreating this tool. We would want to leverage the learning we have in the tool so far (i.e., port the rules that have already been created) but if we do this in a shared way, as you mention, I would really like to specify the rules as a DSL or otherwise easily extensible toolset.
I'll risk showing my ignorance here, but this sounds like of exactly like a problem Python would be well-suited to solve (since it's pure interpreted code and is simple to understand). Does anyone know whether there's an existing framework we can start from?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:26 PM
To: dev@olingo.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Mark,
Conceptually that is exactly what I had it in my mind, not sure how I missed this before on the odata.org site. Can you share where the code is hosted? Ideally I would like to run this locally on my machine to verify my service during the development. As per your contribution of rules comment that is most important aspect IMO, I was thinking, somehow one creates a DSL script, or small extension code that can be easily added to the framework to be part of the test. I need to play around more to digest your comment about conformation level. Let's figure out how we can further enhance this tool.
Thanks.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> Sorry for weighing in late here. How would we posture the relationship
> between this proposal and http://services.odata.org/validation/? I can
> state my personal opinion, which doesn't necessarily represent
> Microsoft's
> opinion: we built something because we saw a need. We haven't done a
> good job of advertising it and to some extent it's an NP problem
> (loosely
> applied) in that it's very easy to prove that a service DOESN'T
> conform to OData in a certain respect, very difficult to prove that it
> DOES conform to OData in all respects necessary to achieve a conformance level.
>
> The code that we have for the validator today is open source and so we
> certainly could consider porting it to pretty much anything. An ideal
> end state in my opinion would be one in which we have a framework that
> can execute validation rules, and the validation rules should ideally
> be easy to contribute. The ideal ideal would be something language
> agnostic so that all of us OData folks can contribute regardless of
> which language we program in on a daily basis. Happy to discuss in
> more detail if it would be helpful, but I LOVE the idea of a GSoC project for OData.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:34 AM
> To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
>
> Here is the proposal
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Project: Develop OData Conformance Checker Tool
>
> Brief explanation:
> OData
> (https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odata)
> simplifes data sharing across disparate applications in enterprise,
> Cloud, and mobile devices and it is OASIS standard. This protocol
> defines various service conformance levels that vendors and/or
> framework implementation projects expected to develop before a service
> is called OData compatible service. This project proposes to develop a
> test suite that can interrogate a service and provide a results as to
> conformance level, adherence to the OData specification. Using this
> tool a one can make sure the service is implemented in accordance to
> the specification and also promotes the cross vendor usage of services.
>
> Expected results:
> I envision some kind of visual tool that is either web based using any
> of javascript libraries or it can be simple JUnit kind of code based
> tool, at the end gives a report about the conformance level, and also
> reports where the service is not complying with specification. You can
> also think like FindBugs kind of plugin for OData.
>
> Knowledge Prerequisite:
> Since OData is REST protocol, this can implemented using any language,
> for doing web based tool familiarity with java script is necessary
> other wise Java or .Net
>
> Mentor: Ramesh Reddy, rareddy@jboss.org
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I am not sure how you guys handling the organization stuff with GSoc,
> but please include above proposal.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ramesh..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I
> > am little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it
> > becomes Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc
> > projects good idea, and based on taker we can create individual
> > issues where they belong.
> > I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
> >
> > Ramesh..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Hi Ramesh,
> > >
> > > thank you very much for your feedback :)
> > >
> > > I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same
> > > extensive knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would
> > > make mentoring a student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing
> > > to help out as a mentor I would reconsider this and open an issue.
> > > The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know
> > > enough about that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
> > >
> > > About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until
> > > June when a student would start implementing there is a stable
> > > version of the metadata document in Json. If not there is plenty
> > > of other work to be done for the Json Serializer like supporting
> > > odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope if a student actually
> > > is interested in this issue.
> > >
> > > About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently
> > > the implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I
> > > don`t have the time to work on this. So I had hoped a student
> > > would develop this further.
> > > The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
> > >
> > > Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always
> > > had an issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they
> > > interpreted the specification differently. Would you like to open
> > > an issue for that in the JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015,
> > > mentor and java so it appears in the global Apache ideas list.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Christian
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> > > Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
> > > To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
> > >
> > > Christian,
> > >
> > > - How about the JPA extension for V4?
> > > - Java Script library for V4?
> > >
> > > OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was
> > > recent discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON
> > > Schema has not been fully evolved for the OData needs.
> > > OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example
> > > started is that not sufficient? Also as part of discussion
> > > OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I wrote an alternative extension
> > > framework for server side processing, which includes the "TripPin"
> > > example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can see the example
> > > and the extended framework here
> > > https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extens
> > > io n/lib/server-core-ext . There is separate discussion thread on
> > > this.
> > > I very much appreciate any feed back on that.
> > >
> > > Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library
> > > of tests that can
> > > - Test the conformance level
> > > - Specification Adherence
> > > - Cross vendor compatibility
> > >
> > > Using the same example service that is implemented by all the
> > > framework implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was
> > > hoping, to evolve the above TripPin service test into such a test
> > > suite, but it does require lot more time than I can spare right
> > > now. That can be a good project for GSoC student to develop into a testing tool.
> > > This could be web based or series of JUnit tests etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Ramesh..
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this
> > > > Friday 13th, 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes
> > > > part this year. I would volunteer as a mentor.
> > > >
> > > > Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and
> > > > created
> > > > 3 project ideas already:
> > > > OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> > > > Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> > > > Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know what you think about this if you have the
> > > > time
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Christian
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by Ramesh Reddy <ra...@redhat.com>.
Mark,
Conceptually that is exactly what I had it in my mind, not sure how I missed this before on the odata.org site. Can you share where the code is hosted? Ideally I would like to run this locally on my machine to verify my service during the development. As per your contribution of rules comment that is most important aspect IMO, I was thinking, somehow one creates a DSL script, or small extension code that can be easily added to the framework to be part of the test. I need to play around more to digest your comment about conformation level. Let's figure out how we can further enhance this tool.
Thanks.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> Sorry for weighing in late here. How would we posture the relationship
> between this proposal and http://services.odata.org/validation/? I can state
> my personal opinion, which doesn't necessarily represent Microsoft's
> opinion: we built something because we saw a need. We haven't done a good
> job of advertising it and to some extent it's an NP problem (loosely
> applied) in that it's very easy to prove that a service DOESN'T conform to
> OData in a certain respect, very difficult to prove that it DOES conform to
> OData in all respects necessary to achieve a conformance level.
>
> The code that we have for the validator today is open source and so we
> certainly could consider porting it to pretty much anything. An ideal end
> state in my opinion would be one in which we have a framework that can
> execute validation rules, and the validation rules should ideally be easy to
> contribute. The ideal ideal would be something language agnostic so that all
> of us OData folks can contribute regardless of which language we program in
> on a daily basis. Happy to discuss in more detail if it would be helpful,
> but I LOVE the idea of a GSoC project for OData.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:34 AM
> To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
>
> Here is the proposal
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Project: Develop OData Conformance Checker Tool
>
> Brief explanation:
> OData (https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odata)
> simplifes data sharing across disparate applications in enterprise, Cloud,
> and mobile devices and it is OASIS standard. This protocol defines various
> service conformance levels that vendors and/or framework implementation
> projects expected to develop before a service is called OData compatible
> service. This project proposes to develop a test suite that can interrogate
> a service and provide a results as to conformance level, adherence to the
> OData specification. Using this tool a one can make sure the service is
> implemented in accordance to the specification and also promotes the cross
> vendor usage of services.
>
> Expected results:
> I envision some kind of visual tool that is either web based using any of
> javascript libraries or it can be simple JUnit kind of code based tool, at
> the end gives a report about the conformance level, and also reports where
> the service is not complying with specification. You can also think like
> FindBugs kind of plugin for OData.
>
> Knowledge Prerequisite:
> Since OData is REST protocol, this can implemented using any language, for
> doing web based tool familiarity with java script is necessary other wise
> Java or .Net
>
> Mentor: Ramesh Reddy, rareddy@jboss.org
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I am not sure how you guys handling the organization stuff with GSoc, but
> please include above proposal.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ramesh..
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I
> > am little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it
> > becomes Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc
> > projects good idea, and based on taker we can create individual issues
> > where they belong.
> > I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
> >
> > Ramesh..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Hi Ramesh,
> > >
> > > thank you very much for your feedback :)
> > >
> > > I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same
> > > extensive knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make
> > > mentoring a student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help
> > > out as a mentor I would reconsider this and open an issue.
> > > The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough
> > > about that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
> > >
> > > About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until
> > > June when a student would start implementing there is a stable
> > > version of the metadata document in Json. If not there is plenty of
> > > other work to be done for the Json Serializer like supporting
> > > odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope if a student actually is
> > > interested in this issue.
> > >
> > > About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently
> > > the implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I
> > > don`t have the time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would
> > > develop this further.
> > > The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
> > >
> > > Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always
> > > had an issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they
> > > interpreted the specification differently. Would you like to open an
> > > issue for that in the JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015,
> > > mentor and java so it appears in the global Apache ideas list.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Christian
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> > > Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
> > > To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
> > >
> > > Christian,
> > >
> > > - How about the JPA extension for V4?
> > > - Java Script library for V4?
> > >
> > > OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was
> > > recent discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON
> > > Schema has not been fully evolved for the OData needs.
> > > OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started
> > > is that not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with
> > > Michael B, I wrote an alternative extension framework for server
> > > side processing, which includes the "TripPin" example developed by
> > > the Microsoft folks. You can see the example and the extended
> > > framework here
> > > https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extensio
> > > n/lib/server-core-ext . There is separate discussion thread on this.
> > > I very much appreciate any feed back on that.
> > >
> > > Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of
> > > tests that can
> > > - Test the conformance level
> > > - Specification Adherence
> > > - Cross vendor compatibility
> > >
> > > Using the same example service that is implemented by all the
> > > framework implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping,
> > > to evolve the above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but
> > > it does require lot more time than I can spare right now. That can
> > > be a good project for GSoC student to develop into a testing tool.
> > > This could be web based or series of JUnit tests etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Ramesh..
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this
> > > > Friday 13th, 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes
> > > > part this year. I would volunteer as a mentor.
> > > >
> > > > Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created
> > > > 3 project ideas already:
> > > > OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> > > > Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> > > > Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Christian
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by Mark Stafford <ma...@microsoft.com>.
Sorry for weighing in late here. How would we posture the relationship between this proposal and http://services.odata.org/validation/? I can state my personal opinion, which doesn't necessarily represent Microsoft's opinion: we built something because we saw a need. We haven't done a good job of advertising it and to some extent it's an NP problem (loosely applied) in that it's very easy to prove that a service DOESN'T conform to OData in a certain respect, very difficult to prove that it DOES conform to OData in all respects necessary to achieve a conformance level.
The code that we have for the validator today is open source and so we certainly could consider porting it to pretty much anything. An ideal end state in my opinion would be one in which we have a framework that can execute validation rules, and the validation rules should ideally be easy to contribute. The ideal ideal would be something language agnostic so that all of us OData folks can contribute regardless of which language we program in on a daily basis. Happy to discuss in more detail if it would be helpful, but I LOVE the idea of a GSoC project for OData.
Thanks,
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:34 AM
To: dev@olingo.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Here is the proposal
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Project: Develop OData Conformance Checker Tool
Brief explanation:
OData (https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odata) simplifes data sharing across disparate applications in enterprise, Cloud, and mobile devices and it is OASIS standard. This protocol defines various service conformance levels that vendors and/or framework implementation projects expected to develop before a service is called OData compatible service. This project proposes to develop a test suite that can interrogate a service and provide a results as to conformance level, adherence to the OData specification. Using this tool a one can make sure the service is implemented in accordance to the specification and also promotes the cross vendor usage of services.
Expected results:
I envision some kind of visual tool that is either web based using any of javascript libraries or it can be simple JUnit kind of code based tool, at the end gives a report about the conformance level, and also reports where the service is not complying with specification. You can also think like FindBugs kind of plugin for OData.
Knowledge Prerequisite:
Since OData is REST protocol, this can implemented using any language, for doing web based tool familiarity with java script is necessary other wise Java or .Net
Mentor: Ramesh Reddy, rareddy@jboss.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not sure how you guys handling the organization stuff with GSoc, but please include above proposal.
Thanks
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I
> am little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it
> becomes Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc
> projects good idea, and based on taker we can create individual issues where they belong.
> I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
>
> Ramesh..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Ramesh,
> >
> > thank you very much for your feedback :)
> >
> > I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same
> > extensive knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make
> > mentoring a student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help
> > out as a mentor I would reconsider this and open an issue.
> > The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough
> > about that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
> >
> > About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until
> > June when a student would start implementing there is a stable
> > version of the metadata document in Json. If not there is plenty of
> > other work to be done for the Json Serializer like supporting
> > odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope if a student actually is
> > interested in this issue.
> >
> > About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently
> > the implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I
> > don`t have the time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would develop this further.
> > The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
> >
> > Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always
> > had an issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they
> > interpreted the specification differently. Would you like to open an
> > issue for that in the JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015,
> > mentor and java so it appears in the global Apache ideas list.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Christian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
> > To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
> >
> > Christian,
> >
> > - How about the JPA extension for V4?
> > - Java Script library for V4?
> >
> > OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was
> > recent discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON
> > Schema has not been fully evolved for the OData needs.
> > OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started
> > is that not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with
> > Michael B, I wrote an alternative extension framework for server
> > side processing, which includes the "TripPin" example developed by
> > the Microsoft folks. You can see the example and the extended
> > framework here
> > https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extensio
> > n/lib/server-core-ext . There is separate discussion thread on this.
> > I very much appreciate any feed back on that.
> >
> > Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of
> > tests that can
> > - Test the conformance level
> > - Specification Adherence
> > - Cross vendor compatibility
> >
> > Using the same example service that is implemented by all the
> > framework implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping,
> > to evolve the above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but
> > it does require lot more time than I can spare right now. That can
> > be a good project for GSoC student to develop into a testing tool.
> > This could be web based or series of JUnit tests etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ramesh..
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this
> > > Friday 13th, 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes
> > > part this year. I would volunteer as a mentor.
> > >
> > > Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created
> > > 3 project ideas already:
> > > OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> > > Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> > > Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
> > >
> > > Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by Ramesh Reddy <ra...@redhat.com>.
Here is the proposal
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Project: Develop OData Conformance Checker Tool
Brief explanation:
OData (https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odata) simplifes data sharing across disparate applications in enterprise, Cloud, and mobile devices and it is OASIS standard. This protocol defines various service conformance levels that vendors and/or framework implementation projects expected to develop before a service is called OData compatible service. This project proposes to develop a test suite that can interrogate a service and provide a results as to conformance level, adherence to the OData specification. Using this tool a one can make sure the service is implemented in accordance to the specification and also promotes the cross vendor usage of services.
Expected results:
I envision some kind of visual tool that is either web based using any of javascript libraries or it can be simple JUnit kind of code based tool, at the end gives a report about the conformance level, and also reports where the service is not complying with specification. You can also think like FindBugs kind of plugin for OData.
Knowledge Prerequisite:
Since OData is REST protocol, this can implemented using any language, for doing web based tool familiarity with java script is necessary other wise Java or .Net
Mentor: Ramesh Reddy, rareddy@jboss.org
-------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not sure how you guys handling the organization stuff with GSoc, but please include above proposal.
Thanks
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I am
> little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it becomes
> Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc projects good
> idea, and based on taker we can create individual issues where they belong.
> I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
>
> Ramesh..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Ramesh,
> >
> > thank you very much for your feedback :)
> >
> > I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same
> > extensive
> > knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make mentoring a
> > student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help out as a mentor I
> > would reconsider this and open an issue.
> > The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough about
> > that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
> >
> > About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until June
> > when
> > a student would start implementing there is a stable version of the
> > metadata
> > document in Json. If not there is plenty of other work to be done for the
> > Json Serializer like supporting odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope
> > if a student actually is interested in this issue.
> >
> > About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently the
> > implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I don`t have the
> > time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would develop this further.
> > The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
> >
> > Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always had an
> > issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they interpreted the
> > specification differently. Would you like to open an issue for that in the
> > JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015, mentor and java so it appears in
> > the global Apache ideas list.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Christian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
> > To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
> >
> > Christian,
> >
> > - How about the JPA extension for V4?
> > - Java Script library for V4?
> >
> > OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was recent
> > discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON Schema has not
> > been fully evolved for the OData needs.
> > OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started is
> > that
> > not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I
> > wrote an alternative extension framework for server side processing, which
> > includes the "TripPin" example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can
> > see
> > the example and the extended framework here
> > https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extension/lib/server-core-ext
> > . There is separate discussion thread on this. I very much appreciate any
> > feed back on that.
> >
> > Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of tests
> > that can
> > - Test the conformance level
> > - Specification Adherence
> > - Cross vendor compatibility
> >
> > Using the same example service that is implemented by all the framework
> > implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping, to evolve the
> > above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but it does require lot
> > more time than I can spare right now. That can be a good project for GSoC
> > student to develop into a testing tool. This could be web based or series
> > of
> > JUnit tests etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ramesh..
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday
> > > 13th,
> > > 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I
> > > would
> > > volunteer as a mentor.
> > >
> > > Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3
> > > project
> > > ideas already:
> > > OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> > > Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> > > Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
> > >
> > > Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> >
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by "Amend, Christian" <ch...@sap.com>.
Hi,
I would still try creating a JIRA issue and labeling it as „gsoc2015“. Maybe it will still be considered.
I also like the idea!
Best Regards,
Christian
From: Bolz, Michael [mailto:michael.bolz@sap.com]
Sent: Montag, 16. Februar 2015 09:06
To: dev@olingo.apache.org
Cc: rareddy@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
* PGP - S/MIME Signed by an unverified key: 16.02.2015 at 09:06:14
Hello Ramesh,
thanks for your effort regarding GSoC 2015.
Unfortunately the deadline was "2015-02-13 19:00 UTC” and a requirement for application was to create a JIRA issue and label it with “gsoc2015”.
But perhaps we can keep/add your idea/proposal as feature request in JIRA and sometimes someone within the community find the time to realise it.
Kind regards,
Michael
Also see mail from Ulrich Stärk (uli@spielviel.de<ma...@spielviel.de>) at "general@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>” list (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201502.mbox/%3C54DBD5E7.4000901%40spielviel.de%3E<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201502.mbox/%3c54DBD5E7.4000901@spielviel.de%3e>):
> ...
> If you want to participate with your project we ask you to do the following things by no later than 2015-02-13 19:00 UTC (applications from organizations close a week later)
> 1. understand what it means to be a mentor [2].
> 2. record your project ideas.
> Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2015, and they will show up at [3]. Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and
> skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what’s required before the program starts.
> ...
On 14 Feb 2015, at 18:13, Ramesh Reddy <ra...@redhat.com>> wrote:
As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I am little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it becomes Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc projects good idea, and based on taker we can create individual issues where they belong. I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
Hi Ramesh,
thank you very much for your feedback :)
I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same extensive
knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make mentoring a
student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help out as a mentor I
would reconsider this and open an issue.
The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough about
that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until June when
a student would start implementing there is a stable version of the metadata
document in Json. If not there is plenty of other work to be done for the
Json Serializer like supporting odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope
if a student actually is interested in this issue.
About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently the
implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I don`t have the
time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would develop this further.
The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always had an
issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they interpreted the
specification differently. Would you like to open an issue for that in the
JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015, mentor and java so it appears in
the global Apache ideas list.
Best Regards,
Christian
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
To: dev@olingo.apache.org<ma...@olingo.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Christian,
- How about the JPA extension for V4?
- Java Script library for V4?
OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was recent
discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON Schema has not
been fully evolved for the OData needs.
OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started is that
not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I
wrote an alternative extension framework for server side processing, which
includes the "TripPin" example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can see
the example and the extended framework here
https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extension/lib/server-core-ext
. There is separate discussion thread on this. I very much appreciate any
feed back on that.
Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of tests
that can
- Test the conformance level
- Specification Adherence
- Cross vendor compatibility
Using the same example service that is implemented by all the framework
implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping, to evolve the
above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but it does require lot
more time than I can spare right now. That can be a good project for GSoC
student to develop into a testing tool. This could be web based or series of
JUnit tests etc.
Thanks.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
Hi all,
The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday 13th,
2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I would
volunteer as a mentor.
Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3
project
ideas already:
OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
Best Regards,
Christian
* D046871 <mi...@sap.com>
* Issuer: SAP-AG - Unverified
Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by "Bolz, Michael" <mi...@sap.com>.
Hello Ramesh,
thanks for your effort regarding GSoC 2015.
Unfortunately the deadline was "2015-02-13 19:00 UTC” and a requirement for application was to create a JIRA issue and label it with “gsoc2015”.
But perhaps we can keep/add your idea/proposal as feature request in JIRA and sometimes someone within the community find the time to realise it.
Kind regards,
Michael
Also see mail from Ulrich Stärk (uli@spielviel.de <ma...@spielviel.de>) at "general@incubator.apache.org <ma...@incubator.apache.org>” list (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201502.mbox/%3C54DBD5E7.4000901%40spielviel.de%3E <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201502.mbox/%3C54DBD5E7.4000901@spielviel.de%3E>):
> ...
> If you want to participate with your project we ask you to do the following things by no later than 2015-02-13 19:00 UTC (applications from organizations close a week later)
> 1. understand what it means to be a mentor [2].
> 2. record your project ideas.
> Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2015, and they will show up at [3]. Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and
> skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what’s required before the program starts.
> ...
> On 14 Feb 2015, at 18:13, Ramesh Reddy <ra...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I am little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it becomes Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc projects good idea, and based on taker we can create individual issues where they belong. I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
>
> Ramesh..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> Hi Ramesh,
>>
>> thank you very much for your feedback :)
>>
>> I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same extensive
>> knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make mentoring a
>> student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help out as a mentor I
>> would reconsider this and open an issue.
>> The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough about
>> that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
>>
>> About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until June when
>> a student would start implementing there is a stable version of the metadata
>> document in Json. If not there is plenty of other work to be done for the
>> Json Serializer like supporting odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope
>> if a student actually is interested in this issue.
>>
>> About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently the
>> implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I don`t have the
>> time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would develop this further.
>> The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
>>
>> Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always had an
>> issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they interpreted the
>> specification differently. Would you like to open an issue for that in the
>> JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015, mentor and java so it appears in
>> the global Apache ideas list.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Christian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
>> To: dev@olingo.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
>>
>> Christian,
>>
>> - How about the JPA extension for V4?
>> - Java Script library for V4?
>>
>> OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was recent
>> discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON Schema has not
>> been fully evolved for the OData needs.
>> OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started is that
>> not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I
>> wrote an alternative extension framework for server side processing, which
>> includes the "TripPin" example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can see
>> the example and the extended framework here
>> https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extension/lib/server-core-ext
>> . There is separate discussion thread on this. I very much appreciate any
>> feed back on that.
>>
>> Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of tests
>> that can
>> - Test the conformance level
>> - Specification Adherence
>> - Cross vendor compatibility
>>
>> Using the same example service that is implemented by all the framework
>> implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping, to evolve the
>> above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but it does require lot
>> more time than I can spare right now. That can be a good project for GSoC
>> student to develop into a testing tool. This could be web based or series of
>> JUnit tests etc.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ramesh..
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday 13th,
>>> 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I would
>>> volunteer as a mentor.
>>>
>>> Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3
>>> project
>>> ideas already:
>>> OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
>>> Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
>>> Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by Ramesh Reddy <ra...@redhat.com>.
As this is vendor/project neutral request to create the test suite I am little reluctant to create a JIRA in Olingo issues, as then it becomes Olingo issue. May be a WIKI page to detailing all the GSoc projects good idea, and based on taker we can create individual issues where they belong. I am open for mentoring. I will write something up.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> Hi Ramesh,
>
> thank you very much for your feedback :)
>
> I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same extensive
> knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make mentoring a
> student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help out as a mentor I
> would reconsider this and open an issue.
> The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough about
> that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
>
> About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until June when
> a student would start implementing there is a stable version of the metadata
> document in Json. If not there is plenty of other work to be done for the
> Json Serializer like supporting odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope
> if a student actually is interested in this issue.
>
> About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently the
> implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I don`t have the
> time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would develop this further.
> The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
>
> Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always had an
> issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they interpreted the
> specification differently. Would you like to open an issue for that in the
> JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015, mentor and java so it appears in
> the global Apache ideas list.
>
> Best Regards,
> Christian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
> Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
> To: dev@olingo.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
>
> Christian,
>
> - How about the JPA extension for V4?
> - Java Script library for V4?
>
> OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was recent
> discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON Schema has not
> been fully evolved for the OData needs.
> OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started is that
> not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I
> wrote an alternative extension framework for server side processing, which
> includes the "TripPin" example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can see
> the example and the extended framework here
> https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extension/lib/server-core-ext
> . There is separate discussion thread on this. I very much appreciate any
> feed back on that.
>
> Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of tests
> that can
> - Test the conformance level
> - Specification Adherence
> - Cross vendor compatibility
>
> Using the same example service that is implemented by all the framework
> implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping, to evolve the
> above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but it does require lot
> more time than I can spare right now. That can be a good project for GSoC
> student to develop into a testing tool. This could be web based or series of
> JUnit tests etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ramesh..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday 13th,
> > 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I would
> > volunteer as a mentor.
> >
> > Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3
> > project
> > ideas already:
> > OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> > Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> > Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
> >
> > Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Christian
> >
> >
>
RE: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by "Amend, Christian" <ch...@sap.com>.
Hi Ramesh,
thank you very much for your feedback :)
I did not include the JPA extension because I do not have the same extensive knowledge about this extension as Chandan. This would make mentoring a student hard for me. If Chandan would be willing to help out as a mentor I would reconsider this and open an issue.
The same goes for the JavaScript library part. I do not know enough about that to feel comfortable mentoring a student working on this.
About Olingo 570: I know this is work in progress but I hope until June when a student would start implementing there is a stable version of the metadata document in Json. If not there is plenty of other work to be done for the Json Serializer like supporting odata.metadta=full. We can adjust the scope if a student actually is interested in this issue.
About Olingo 569: Yes a cars sample would be sufficient. Currently the implementation is lacking quite a bit of functionality and I don`t have the time to work on this. So I had hoped a student would develop this further.
The feedback to your github idea will follow in another thread.
Finally about your project idea: I like that very much. We always had an issue in V2 with services behaving differently because they interpreted the specification differently. Would you like to open an issue for that in the JIRA? If yes please tag it with gsoc2015, mentor and java so it appears in the global Apache ideas list.
Best Regards,
Christian
-----Original Message-----
From: Ramesh Reddy [mailto:rareddy@redhat.com]
Sent: Montag, 9. Februar 2015 21:21
To: dev@olingo.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Christian,
- How about the JPA extension for V4?
- Java Script library for V4?
OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was recent discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON Schema has not been fully evolved for the OData needs.
OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started is that not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I wrote an alternative extension framework for server side processing, which includes the "TripPin" example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can see the example and the extended framework here https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extension/lib/server-core-ext . There is separate discussion thread on this. I very much appreciate any feed back on that.
Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of tests that can
- Test the conformance level
- Specification Adherence
- Cross vendor compatibility
Using the same example service that is implemented by all the framework implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping, to evolve the above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but it does require lot more time than I can spare right now. That can be a good project for GSoC student to develop into a testing tool. This could be web based or series of JUnit tests etc.
Thanks.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> Hi all,
>
> The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday 13th,
> 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I would
> volunteer as a mentor.
>
> Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3 project
> ideas already:
> OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
>
> Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
>
> Best Regards,
> Christian
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Taking part in the GSoC
Posted by Ramesh Reddy <ra...@redhat.com>.
Christian,
- How about the JPA extension for V4?
- Java Script library for V4?
OLINGO-570 - this is still work in much progress and there was recent discussions in OData TC to make use of JSON Schema but JSON Schema has not been fully evolved for the OData needs.
OLINGO-569 - This is good. Couple comments. The CARS example started is that not sufficient? Also as part of discussion OLINGO-482 with Michael B, I wrote an alternative extension framework for server side processing, which includes the "TripPin" example developed by the Microsoft folks. You can see the example and the extended framework here https://github.com/rareddy/olingo-odata4/tree/olingo-server-extension/lib/server-core-ext . There is separate discussion thread on this. I very much appreciate any feed back on that.
Also, OData TC, there has been some talk on developing a library of tests that can
- Test the conformance level
- Specification Adherence
- Cross vendor compatibility
Using the same example service that is implemented by all the framework implementors, think like TCK tests for Java. I was hoping, to evolve the above TripPin service test into such a test suite, but it does require lot more time than I can spare right now. That can be a good project for GSoC student to develop into a testing tool. This could be web based or series of JUnit tests etc.
Thanks.
Ramesh..
----- Original Message -----
> Hi all,
>
> The application deadline for the Google Summer of Code is this Friday 13th,
> 2015. I would suggest that the Olingo project takes part this year. I would
> volunteer as a mentor.
>
> Since the deadline is already this Friday I went ahead and created 3 project
> ideas already:
> OData $search Query Parser for Olingo
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-568
> Implement an OData V4 sample service using Olingo
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-569
> Implement OData Json Metadocument Serializer/Parser
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OLINGO-570
>
> Please let me know what you think about this if you have the time :)
>
> Best Regards,
> Christian
>
>