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Posted to dev@tuscany.apache.org by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> on 2008/06/17 21:49:07 UTC
How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Hi,
I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed as part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
User: user@tuscany.apache.org
Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing subscribers will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
Thanks,
Raymond
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
The old archives [1] are still in the process of being migrated to its
new location [2].
I'm not sure how the other archives, external to Apache, would work.
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/
[2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tuscany-dev/
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Caroline Maynard <ce...@php.net> wrote:
>>
>> This should be totally transparent for the users, as the migration
>> process takes care of migrating the users as subscribed to the new
>> list address and the old list address will continue to work.
>
> You're over-simplifying the impact of the change. For example, I read this
> list as news, via gmane.org. There the last message on this list was posted
> on 17th June. I've submitted a request to update it, but even when that
> happens, many messages will have been lost.
>
> Looks like the archive has cut over from
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/ to
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tuscany-dev/. Everything is there,
> but the history is now in two distinct places, so searching will be more
> difficult.
>
> I don't know how many other places the list is archived, but each of them
> will potentially need some individual attention, as they are likely to have
> gone dead. Even regular list users probably have mail filters that they will
> need to modify.
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Caroline Maynard <ce...@php.net>.
>
> This should be totally transparent for the users, as the migration
> process takes care of migrating the users as subscribed to the new
> list address and the old list address will continue to work.
You're over-simplifying the impact of the change. For example, I read
this list as news, via gmane.org. There the last message on this list
was posted on 17th June. I've submitted a request to update it, but even
when that happens, many messages will have been lost.
Looks like the archive has cut over from
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-tuscany-dev/ to
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tuscany-dev/. Everything is
there, but the history is now in two distinct places, so searching will
be more difficult.
I don't know how many other places the list is archived, but each of
them will potentially need some individual attention, as they are likely
to have gone dead. Even regular list users probably have mail filters
that they will need to modify.
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
This should be totally transparent for the users, as the migration
process takes care of migrating the users as subscribed to the new
list address and the old list address will continue to work.
It's probably good practice to start using the new e-mail address for
new threads.
I have created TUSCANY-2401 to track and update website with all these changes.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Oscar.
>
> I think you are confused. These changes only apply to the mailing list, NOT
> the individual tuscany committer's apache id. For example, my id
> rfeng@apache.org will stay as before.
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Oscar Castaneda" <os...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: <de...@tuscany.apache.org>
> Cc: "tuscany-user" <us...@tuscany.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> I sent an email to Adriano's old address a couple of hours ago and didn't
>> experience any issues. Just in case, I resent the email to what would be
>> his
>> new address (adrianocrestani@tuscany.apache.org) and received a delivery
>> failure email.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed
>>> as
>>> part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
>>>
>>> Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
>>> User: user@tuscany.apache.org
>>> Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
>>>
>>> Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing
>>> subscribers
>>> will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if
>>> somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Raymond
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> best,
>> -oscar
>>
>> Oscar Castañeda
>>
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
This should be totally transparent for the users, as the migration
process takes care of migrating the users as subscribed to the new
list address and the old list address will continue to work.
It's probably good practice to start using the new e-mail address for
new threads.
I have created TUSCANY-2401 to track and update website with all these changes.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Oscar.
>
> I think you are confused. These changes only apply to the mailing list, NOT
> the individual tuscany committer's apache id. For example, my id
> rfeng@apache.org will stay as before.
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Oscar Castaneda" <os...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: <de...@tuscany.apache.org>
> Cc: "tuscany-user" <us...@tuscany.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
>
>> Hi Raymond,
>>
>> I sent an email to Adriano's old address a couple of hours ago and didn't
>> experience any issues. Just in case, I resent the email to what would be
>> his
>> new address (adrianocrestani@tuscany.apache.org) and received a delivery
>> failure email.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed
>>> as
>>> part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
>>>
>>> Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
>>> User: user@tuscany.apache.org
>>> Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
>>>
>>> Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing
>>> subscribers
>>> will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if
>>> somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Raymond
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> best,
>> -oscar
>>
>> Oscar Castañeda
>>
>
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany Committer
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Oscar.
I think you are confused. These changes only apply to the mailing list, NOT
the individual tuscany committer's apache id. For example, my id
rfeng@apache.org will stay as before.
Thanks,
Raymond
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Oscar Castaneda" <os...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:02 PM
To: <de...@tuscany.apache.org>
Cc: "tuscany-user" <us...@tuscany.apache.org>
Subject: Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
> Hi Raymond,
>
> I sent an email to Adriano's old address a couple of hours ago and didn't
> experience any issues. Just in case, I resent the email to what would be
> his
> new address (adrianocrestani@tuscany.apache.org) and received a delivery
> failure email.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed
>> as
>> part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
>>
>> Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
>> User: user@tuscany.apache.org
>> Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
>>
>> Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing
>> subscribers
>> will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if
>> somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Raymond
>>
>
>
>
> --
> best,
> -oscar
>
> Oscar Castañeda
>
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>.
Hi, Oscar.
I think you are confused. These changes only apply to the mailing list, NOT
the individual tuscany committer's apache id. For example, my id
rfeng@apache.org will stay as before.
Thanks,
Raymond
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Oscar Castaneda" <os...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:02 PM
To: <de...@tuscany.apache.org>
Cc: "tuscany-user" <us...@tuscany.apache.org>
Subject: Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
> Hi Raymond,
>
> I sent an email to Adriano's old address a couple of hours ago and didn't
> experience any issues. Just in case, I resent the email to what would be
> his
> new address (adrianocrestani@tuscany.apache.org) and received a delivery
> failure email.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed
>> as
>> part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
>>
>> Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
>> User: user@tuscany.apache.org
>> Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
>>
>> Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing
>> subscribers
>> will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if
>> somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Raymond
>>
>
>
>
> --
> best,
> -oscar
>
> Oscar Castañeda
>
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Oscar Castaneda <os...@gmail.com>.
Hi Raymond,
I sent an email to Adriano's old address a couple of hours ago and didn't
experience any issues. Just in case, I resent the email to what would be his
new address (adrianocrestani@tuscany.apache.org) and received a delivery
failure email.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed as
> part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
>
> Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
> User: user@tuscany.apache.org
> Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
>
> Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing subscribers
> will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if
> somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
--
best,
-oscar
Oscar Castañeda
Re: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Oscar Castaneda <os...@gmail.com>.
Hi Raymond,
I sent an email to Adriano's old address a couple of hours ago and didn't
experience any issues. Just in case, I resent the email to what would be his
new address (adrianocrestani@tuscany.apache.org) and received a delivery
failure email.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed as
> part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
>
> Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
> User: user@tuscany.apache.org
> Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
>
> Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing subscribers
> will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if
> somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
>
> Thanks,
> Raymond
>
--
best,
-oscar
Oscar Castañeda
RE: How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Posted by Thomas Darbois <Th...@edifixio.com>.
All my mails were bounced back yesterday, while using the old user mailing list (some sort of SPF control).
Today as you have been able to see, I successfully sent using the new user mailing list.
Tomas Darbois
Edifixio Grenoble - Projet ScorWare
04 76 29 89 27
thomas.darbois@edifixio.com
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Raymond Feng [mailto:enjoyjava@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mardi 17 juin 2008 21:49
À : tuscany-dev; tuscany-user
Objet : How would the mailing list changes impact our subscribers?
Hi,
I just noticed that the addresses for our mailing list have been changed as part of the TLP migration. The new ids are:
Dev: dev@tuscany.apache.org
User: user@tuscany.apache.org
Commits: commits@tuscany.apache.org
Are there impacts on the existing subscribers? I think existing subscribers will receive e-mails from the new addresses without any actions. What if somebody sends an e-mail to the old address?
Thanks,
Raymond