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Framework Isolation
Hi All!
I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
framework to create a internal application for our employees.
The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an application
to work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it can do
that.
The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework, it is
glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
applications?
Thanks!
Tercio
Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by "Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho" <te...@me.com>.
Nice shot.... I'll with trunk.
On 22/12/2008, at 00:32, BJ Freeman wrote:
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>
> that a tough one.
> my clients get the 4.0 if they want stability.
> if they are open to bugs, and want the feature in the Trunk then that.
> I freeze the trunk for testing then use commits to add features.
> this is not as complicated for you, since you are just using the
> framework.
>
> probably go with trunk since there are some many changes then if you
> started for 4.0 you would have to rework you app if you went with
> the trunk.
>
>
> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/21/2008 6:19 PM:
>> if you had to choose a version to start work with. which version you
>> choose?
>>
>>
>> On 21/12/2008, at 18:11, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>> couple of ways
>> 1) you can use Eclipse IDE and download both versions then do a
>> diff of
>> each project. Also with the Svn plugin you can see the history of
>> each
>> file.
>> 2) you can look at the svn for each commit
>> http://www.nabble.com/OFBiz---Commits-f15587.html
>>
>> though the was started after 4.0 branch
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Main+New+features
>>
>>
>>
>> something you may be interested in
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>>
>>
>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/21/2008 7:21 AM:
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried removing the directories, it build, but the webtools is
>>>>> broken.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll do this again and send you the debug output as soon as I
>>>>> get the
>>>>> lab.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, where do I find informations about the diferences
>>>>> between
>>>>> the actual release and the 4.0 release. I couldn't find this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 06:25, David E Jones <david.jones@hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The framework-only release isn't yet finished, but even now you
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be able to just delete the "applications" and "specialpurpose"
>>>>>> directories and OFBiz should still build and run just fine.
>>>>>> That is
>>>>>> the way it is designed, and it started working that way a long
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> ago. However, not many people test this frequently so you may
>>>>>> run into
>>>>>> issues during build and/or runtime. If that happens, this is
>>>>>> the place
>>>>>> to write... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Tercio,
>>>>>>> in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP)
>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>> works really well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new
>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>> seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> usefull to have all other applications up and running to have
>>>>>>> full of
>>>>>>> working examples of how to do things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all
>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our
>>>>>>> todo
>>>>>>> list and
>>>>>>> this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is
>>>>>>> not yet
>>>>>>> available but it is good to know that framework-only users are
>>>>>>> there and
>>>>>>> waiting ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I will do so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about
>>>>>>>>> loading the
>>>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Build and load are two separate things.
>>>>>>>>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>>>>>>>>> I suggest that you do the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>>>> through some of the information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008
>>>>>>>>> 8:55 PM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly
>>>>>>>>>> database
>>>>>>>>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to
>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>> with SQL.
>>>>>>>>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let
>>>>>>>>>> it for a
>>>>>>>>>> future question... :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not
>>>>>>>>>> load, but
>>>>>>>>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be
>>>>>>>>>> there, I
>>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>>>>>>>>>> applications but
>>>>>>>>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>>>>>>>>>> incorrect,
>>>>>>>>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> dependency on applications.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you can comment out the
>>>>>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there
>>>>>>>>>> is no
>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>>>>>>>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view
>>>>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>>>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008
>>>>>>>>>> 8:23 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> employees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right now).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
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that a tough one.
my clients get the 4.0 if they want stability.
if they are open to bugs, and want the feature in the Trunk then that.
I freeze the trunk for testing then use commits to add features.
this is not as complicated for you, since you are just using the framework.
probably go with trunk since there are some many changes then if you
started for 4.0 you would have to rework you app if you went with the trunk.
Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/21/2008 6:19 PM:
> if you had to choose a version to start work with. which version you
> choose?
>
>
> On 21/12/2008, at 18:11, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
> couple of ways
> 1) you can use Eclipse IDE and download both versions then do a diff of
> each project. Also with the Svn plugin you can see the history of each
> file.
> 2) you can look at the svn for each commit
> http://www.nabble.com/OFBiz---Commits-f15587.html
>
> though the was started after 4.0 branch
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Main+New+features
>
>
>
> something you may be interested in
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>
>
> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/21/2008 7:21 AM:
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I tried removing the directories, it build, but the webtools is broken.
>>>>
>>>> I'll do this again and send you the debug output as soon as I get the
>>>> lab.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, where do I find informations about the diferences between
>>>> the actual release and the 4.0 release. I couldn't find this.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tercio
>>>>
>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 06:25, David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The framework-only release isn't yet finished, but even now you should
>>>>> be able to just delete the "applications" and "specialpurpose"
>>>>> directories and OFBiz should still build and run just fine. That is
>>>>> the way it is designed, and it started working that way a long time
>>>>> ago. However, not many people test this frequently so you may run into
>>>>> issues during build and/or runtime. If that happens, this is the place
>>>>> to write... :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tercio,
>>>>>> in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP)
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> works really well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new
>>>>>> application
>>>>>> seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development it is
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> usefull to have all other applications up and running to have full of
>>>>>> working examples of how to do things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all applications
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our todo
>>>>>> list and
>>>>>> this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is not yet
>>>>>> available but it is good to know that framework-only users are
>>>>>> there and
>>>>>> waiting ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, I will do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the
>>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Build and load are two separate things.
>>>>>>>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>>>>>>>> I suggest that you do the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have
>>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>>> through some of the information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
>>>>>>>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work
>>>>>>>>> with SQL.
>>>>>>>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for a
>>>>>>>>> future question... :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not
>>>>>>>>> load, but
>>>>>>>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>>>>>>>>> applications but
>>>>>>>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>>>>>>>>> incorrect,
>>>>>>>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>>>>>>>>> dependency on applications.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can comment out the
>>>>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no
>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>>>>>>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view
>>>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it
>>>>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by "Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho" <te...@me.com>.
if you had to choose a version to start work with. which version you
choose?
On 21/12/2008, at 18:11, BJ Freeman wrote:
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>
> couple of ways
> 1) you can use Eclipse IDE and download both versions then do a diff
> of
> each project. Also with the Svn plugin you can see the history of
> each file.
> 2) you can look at the svn for each commit
> http://www.nabble.com/OFBiz---Commits-f15587.html
>
> though the was started after 4.0 branch
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Main+New+features
>
>
>
> something you may be interested in
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
>
> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/21/2008 7:21 AM:
>> David,
>>
>> I tried removing the directories, it build, but the webtools is
>> broken.
>>
>> I'll do this again and send you the debug output as soon as I get
>> the lab.
>>
>> By the way, where do I find informations about the diferences between
>> the actual release and the 4.0 release. I couldn't find this.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tercio
>>
>> On 21/12/2008, at 06:25, David E Jones
>> <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The framework-only release isn't yet finished, but even now you
>>> should
>>> be able to just delete the "applications" and "specialpurpose"
>>> directories and OFBiz should still build and run just fine. That is
>>> the way it is designed, and it started working that way a long time
>>> ago. However, not many people test this frequently so you may run
>>> into
>>> issues during build and/or runtime. If that happens, this is the
>>> place
>>> to write... :)
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tercio,
>>>> in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP)
>>>> and it
>>>> works really well.
>>>>
>>>> I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new
>>>> application
>>>> seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development it
>>>> is
>>>> very
>>>> usefull to have all other applications up and running to have
>>>> full of
>>>> working examples of how to do things.
>>>>
>>>> At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all
>>>> applications
>>>> not
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our todo
>>>> list and
>>>> this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is not
>>>> yet
>>>> available but it is good to know that framework-only users are
>>>> there and
>>>> waiting ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Bruno
>>>>
>>>> 2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I will do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Build and load are two separate things.
>>>>>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>>>>>> I suggest that you do the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have
>>>>>> worked
>>>>>> through some of the information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55
>>>>>> PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly
>>>>>>> database
>>>>>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work
>>>>>>> with SQL.
>>>>>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>> future question... :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not
>>>>>>> load, but
>>>>>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>>>>>>> applications but
>>>>>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>>>>>>> incorrect,
>>>>>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>>>>>>> dependency on applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you can comment out the
>>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no
>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>>>>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view
>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008
>>>>>>> 8:23 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems
>>>>>>>>>> that it
>>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the
>>>>>>>>>> framework,
>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right
>>>>>>>>>> now).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
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couple of ways
1) you can use Eclipse IDE and download both versions then do a diff of
each project. Also with the Svn plugin you can see the history of each file.
2) you can look at the svn for each commit
http://www.nabble.com/OFBiz---Commits-f15587.html
though the was started after 4.0 branch
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Main+New+features
something you may be interested in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/SVN+Tips+-+svn_load_dirs+Vendor+Branch
Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/21/2008 7:21 AM:
> David,
>
> I tried removing the directories, it build, but the webtools is broken.
>
> I'll do this again and send you the debug output as soon as I get the lab.
>
> By the way, where do I find informations about the diferences between
> the actual release and the 4.0 release. I couldn't find this.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tercio
>
> On 21/12/2008, at 06:25, David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The framework-only release isn't yet finished, but even now you should
>> be able to just delete the "applications" and "specialpurpose"
>> directories and OFBiz should still build and run just fine. That is
>> the way it is designed, and it started working that way a long time
>> ago. However, not many people test this frequently so you may run into
>> issues during build and/or runtime. If that happens, this is the place
>> to write... :)
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tercio,
>>> in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP) and it
>>> works really well.
>>>
>>> I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new
>>> application
>>> seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development it is
>>> very
>>> usefull to have all other applications up and running to have full of
>>> working examples of how to do things.
>>>
>>> At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all applications
>>> not
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our todo
>>> list and
>>> this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is not yet
>>> available but it is good to know that framework-only users are there and
>>> waiting ;-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>>>
>>>> Ok, I will do so.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tercio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>
>>>>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the
>>>>> normal
>>>>> way
>>>>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Build and load are two separate things.
>>>>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>>>>> I suggest that you do the
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>>>>>
>>>>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have
>>>>> worked
>>>>> through some of the information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
>>>>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work
>>>>>> with SQL.
>>>>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for a
>>>>>> future question... :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not
>>>>>> load, but
>>>>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
>>>>>> tried
>>>>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>>>>>> applications but
>>>>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>>>>>> incorrect,
>>>>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>>>>>> dependency on applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can comment out the
>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>>>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then the
>>>>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>>>>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it
>>>>>>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework,
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by "Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho" <te...@mac.com>.
David,
I tried removing the directories, it build, but the webtools is broken.
I'll do this again and send you the debug output as soon as I get the
lab.
By the way, where do I find informations about the diferences between
the actual release and the 4.0 release. I couldn't find this.
Best regards,
Tercio
On 21/12/2008, at 06:25, David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
wrote:
>
> The framework-only release isn't yet finished, but even now you
> should be able to just delete the "applications" and
> "specialpurpose" directories and OFBiz should still build and run
> just fine. That is the way it is designed, and it started working
> that way a long time ago. However, not many people test this
> frequently so you may run into issues during build and/or runtime.
> If that happens, this is the place to write... :)
>
> -David
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>
>> Hi Tercio,
>> in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP)
>> and it
>> works really well.
>>
>> I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new
>> application
>> seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development it
>> is very
>> usefull to have all other applications up and running to have full of
>> working examples of how to do things.
>>
>> At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all
>> applications not
>> needed.
>>
>> Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our todo
>> list and
>> this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is not yet
>> available but it is good to know that framework-only users are
>> there and
>> waiting ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>>
>>> Ok, I will do so.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tercio
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the
>>>> normal
>>>> way
>>>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>>>
>>>> Build and load are two separate things.
>>>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>>>> I suggest that you do the
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>>>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have
>>>> worked
>>>> through some of the information.
>>>>
>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
>>>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work
>>>>> with SQL.
>>>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it
>>>>> for a
>>>>> future question... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not
>>>>> load, but
>>>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
>>>>> tried
>>>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>>>>> applications but
>>>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>>>>> incorrect,
>>>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>>>>> dependency on applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> you can comment out the
>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>>>> and
>>>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>>>> in the
>>>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no
>>>>> reason
>>>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view
>>>>> then the
>>>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23
>>>>> PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that
>>>>>>>> it can do
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the
>>>>>>>> framework, it is
>>>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right
>>>>>>>> now).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>
Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
The framework-only release isn't yet finished, but even now you should
be able to just delete the "applications" and "specialpurpose"
directories and OFBiz should still build and run just fine. That is
the way it is designed, and it started working that way a long time
ago. However, not many people test this frequently so you may run into
issues during build and/or runtime. If that happens, this is the place
to write... :)
-David
On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
> Hi Tercio,
> in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP) and
> it
> works really well.
>
> I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new
> application
> seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development it is
> very
> usefull to have all other applications up and running to have full of
> working examples of how to do things.
>
> At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all
> applications not
> needed.
>
> Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our todo
> list and
> this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is not yet
> available but it is good to know that framework-only users are there
> and
> waiting ;-)
>
> Regards,
> -Bruno
>
> 2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>
>> Ok, I will do so.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tercio
>>
>>
>> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the
>>> normal
>>> way
>>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>>
>>> Build and load are two separate things.
>>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>>> I suggest that you do the
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have
>>> worked
>>> through some of the information.
>>>
>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>>
>>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
>>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work
>>>> with SQL.
>>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for a
>>>> future question... :-)
>>>>
>>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not
>>>> load, but
>>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
>>>> tried
>>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>>>> applications but
>>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>>>> incorrect,
>>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>>>> dependency on applications.
>>>>
>>>> Tercio
>>>>
>>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> you can comment out the
>>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>>> and
>>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>>> in the
>>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>>
>>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no
>>>> reason
>>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>>
>>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then
>>>> the
>>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that
>>>>>>> it can do
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework,
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>
Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by Bruno Busco <br...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tercio,
in one of my projects I use OFBiz just like you want (a non-ERP) and it
works really well.
I started building a new application in the hot-deploy. The new application
seats near all the others, at the beginning of the development it is very
usefull to have all other applications up and running to have full of
working examples of how to do things.
At a later stage you will start disabling one by one all applications not
needed.
Please consider that we have a framework-only release in our todo list and
this will help in situations like yours. Unfortunately it is not yet
available but it is good to know that framework-only users are there and
waiting ;-)
Regards,
-Bruno
2008/12/21 Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
> Ok, I will do so.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tercio
>
>
> On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the normal
>> way
>> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>>
>> Build and load are two separate things.
>> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
>> I suggest that you do the
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
>> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have worked
>> through some of the information.
>>
>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>
>>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
>>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work with SQL.
>>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for a
>>> future question... :-)
>>>
>>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not load, but
>>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I tried
>>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the applications but
>>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is incorrect,
>>> couse it depends on some application...
>>>
>>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>>> dependency on applications.
>>>
>>> Tercio
>>>
>>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> you can comment out the
>>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>>> and
>>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>>> in the
>>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>>
>>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no reason
>>> to use ofbiz framework.
>>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>>
>>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then the
>>> framework is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>>>
>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an application
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it can do
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework, it is
>>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>
Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by "Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho" <te...@me.com>.
Ok, I will do so.
Thanks
Tercio
On 21/12/2008, at 03:31, BJ Freeman wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the
> normal way
> or you can create you own folder and load from there.
>
> Build and load are two separate things.
> you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
> I suggest that you do the
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
> you will find that people will respond more if you show you have
> worked
> through some of the information.
>
> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>>
>> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
>> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work with
>> SQL.
>> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for a
>> future question... :-)
>>
>> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not load,
>> but
>> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
>> tried
>> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
>> applications but
>> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is
>> incorrect,
>> couse it depends on some application...
>>
>> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
>> dependency on applications.
>>
>> Tercio
>>
>> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>> you can comment out the
>> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
>> and
>> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
>> in the
>> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>>
>> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no
>> reason
>> to use ofbiz framework.
>> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>>
>> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then the
>> framework is the way to go.
>>
>> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>>>>> application to
>>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it
>>>>> can do
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework,
>>>>> it is
>>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>>> applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tercio
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
you can either use the Hot deploy and not worry about loading the normal way
or you can create you own folder and load from there.
Build and load are two separate things.
you can build everything but only load what you want to use.
I suggest that you do the
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Beginner%27s+Development+Guide+Using+Practice+Application
you will find that people will respond more if you show you have worked
through some of the information.
Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:55 PM:
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for your prompt reply.
>
> Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
> manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work with SQL.
> Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for a
> future question... :-)
>
> Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not load, but
> I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I tried
> to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the applications but
> when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that login is incorrect,
> couse it depends on some application...
>
> I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
> dependency on applications.
>
> Tercio
>
> On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
> you can comment out the
> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
> and
> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
> in the
> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>
> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no reason
> to use ofbiz framework.
> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>
> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then the
> framework is the way to go.
>
> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>>>> Hi All!
>>>>
>>>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>>>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>>>
>>>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an application to
>>>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>>>
>>>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it can do
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework, it is
>>>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>>>
>>>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>>>> applications?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Tercio
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by "Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho" <te...@me.com>.
Hi!
Thanks for your prompt reply.
Well, the idea is to work only in high level, no directly database
manipulation. Only through the framework, I don't want to work with
SQL. Some times I need to create a "customized" screen, but let it for
a future question... :-)
Commenting those lines out I just say to the framework to not load,
but I want to load applications, as my applications will be there, I
tried to remove applications and correct the build.xml in the
applications but when I run the ofbiz and try to login it says that
login is incorrect, couse it depends on some application...
I'd like to remove the applications. But it seems to have some
dependency on applications.
Tercio
On 21/12/2008, at 02:46, BJ Freeman wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> you can comment out the
> <load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
> and
> <load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
> in the
> framework\base\config\component-load.xml
>
> however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no reason
> to use ofbiz framework.
> you might as well go directly to the Database server.
>
> Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then the
> framework is the way to go.
>
> Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
>> Hi All!
>>
>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
>> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>>
>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>> application to
>> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>>
>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it can
>> do
>> that.
>>
>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework, it is
>> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>>
>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's
>> applications?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Tercio
>>
>>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
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you can comment out the
<load-components parent-directory="applications"/>
and
<load-components parent-directory="specialpurpose"/>
in the
framework\base\config\component-load.xml
however if you looking to use sql to do the tables, there is no reason
to use ofbiz framework.
you might as well go directly to the Database server.
Now if you want to access the entities or create entity-view then the
framework is the way to go.
Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho sent the following on 12/20/2008 8:23 PM:
> Hi All!
>
> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to use it's
> framework to create a internal application for our employees.
>
> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an application to
> work with some tables and relation like 1:1, 1:N, N:N.
>
> I read some documentation about the framework and seems that it can do
> that.
>
> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the framework, it is
> glued with the applications(By the way useless to me right now).
>
> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from it's applications?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tercio
>
>
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Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by "Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho" <te...@me.com>.
Hi Adrian,
My application has specific needings. I'm not creating an ERP or
something, but as the framework can do the hard work for me(GUI,
manipulation and SQLs) it helps... :)
Tercio
On 21/12/2008, at 03:22, Adrian Crum wrote:
> What kind of application do you have in mind? Why not use the
> applications already contained in OFBiz? I've learned it is easier
> to modify something that works than to create something from scratch.
>
> -Adrian
>
>
> --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From: Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
>> Subject: Framework Isolation
>> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
>> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 8:23 PM
>> Hi All!
>>
>> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to
>> use it's framework to create a internal application for
>> our employees.
>>
>> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
>> application to work with some tables and relation like 1:1,
>> 1:N, N:N.
>>
>> I read some documentation about the framework and seems
>> that it can do that.
>>
>> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the
>> framework, it is glued with the applications(By the way
>> useless to me right now).
>>
>> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from
>> it's applications?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Tercio
>
>
>
Re: Framework Isolation
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@yahoo.com>.
What kind of application do you have in mind? Why not use the applications already contained in OFBiz? I've learned it is easier to modify something that works than to create something from scratch.
-Adrian
--- On Sat, 12/20/08, Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com> wrote:
> From: Tercio F. Gaudencio Filho <te...@me.com>
> Subject: Framework Isolation
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 8:23 PM
> Hi All!
>
> I'm starting to work with Ofbiz, but my intention is to
> use it's framework to create a internal application for
> our employees.
>
> The idea is to use the framework as a engine to create an
> application to work with some tables and relation like 1:1,
> 1:N, N:N.
>
> I read some documentation about the framework and seems
> that it can do that.
>
> The problem is that I don't know how to isolate the
> framework, it is glued with the applications(By the way
> useless to me right now).
>
> Is there some how to do that? Isolate the framework from
> it's applications?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tercio