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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com> on 2009/02/01 21:33:02 UTC
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> I don't know how you are getting the .com name to resolve to 66.133.46.108
> as that is my modem, I can't get it do do that. I tried disabling the DHCP
> on the computer that is acting as server, and did switch to static IP in the
> TCP/IP settings, but then I couldn't access the internet with any of my
> three computers.
>
www.michaelsrogers.com resolves to 66.133.46.108 for me as well. The fact
that this is your modem is a good thing. This means that when people
request a page from www.michaelsrogers.com the requests get up to your
modem. Now all you have to figure out is how to get them from your modem,
through your router and into the computer running the apache web server.
Nicholas mentions port forwarding. An alternative is to set the DMZ on your
router to point to the IP address of your computer running apache (I beleive
you mentioned that this was 10.0.0.101). Port forwarding is more secure,
but setting a DMZ is easier.
Doing port forwarding or setting a DMZ will solve the issue of external
access to www.michaelsrogers.com. It may or may not solve the issue of
internal access.
What is the manufacterer and model number of your router? It might be easier
to help you if we knew this.
> My ISP said that the problem was in my router, and that I had to do what
> they called IP mapping.
>
They are right its a configuration issue with your router. I think they
mean port forwarding.
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Matt!
None of the "http://" was ever in any Razi's email that I read. It only showed up in Andre's email that he posted.
From: Matt McCutchen
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 08:48 +0100, André Warnier wrote:
> Razi Khaja wrote:
> >>
> > Adding 10.0.0.115 to your hosts file shouldnt hurt.
> That is correct.
> >
> > But try adding this as well in your hosts file
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost michealrogers.com <http://michealrogers.net/>
> > www.michealrogers.com <http://www.michealrogers.net/>
> But that is wrong.
> Adding something like "http://...." to a hosts file is wrong, and could
> even prevent the other parts of that line to work properly.
This is a case of an over-clever HTML mailer converting URLs to links
and then converting the links to a plain-text representation that is
confusing in context. The text of the HTML version (which I assume is
what Michael read) does not contain the http:// stuff.
Razi, you might want to get a better mailer.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Matt McCutchen <ma...@mattmccutchen.net>.
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 08:48 +0100, André Warnier wrote:
> Razi Khaja wrote:
> >>
> > Adding 10.0.0.115 to your hosts file shouldnt hurt.
> That is correct.
> >
> > But try adding this as well in your hosts file
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost michealrogers.com <http://michealrogers.net/>
> > www.michealrogers.com <http://www.michealrogers.net/>
> But that is wrong.
> Adding something like "http://...." to a hosts file is wrong, and could
> even prevent the other parts of that line to work properly.
This is a case of an over-clever HTML mailer converting URLs to links
and then converting the links to a plain-text representation that is
confusing in context. The text of the HTML version (which I assume is
what Michael read) does not contain the http:// stuff.
Razi, you might want to get a better mailer.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Andre!
Razi didn't tell me to add the http:// and I didn't add it! All I added was michaelsrogers.com and www.michaelsrogers.com.
I don't know where the .net came in at either, that was not in Razi email to me!
From: André Warnier
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:48 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Razi,
Razi Khaja wrote:
>>
> Adding 10.0.0.115 to your hosts file shouldnt hurt.
That is correct.
>
> But try adding this as well in your hosts file
> 127.0.0.1 localhost michealrogers.com <http://michealrogers.net/>
> www.michealrogers.com <http://www.michealrogers.net/>
But that is wrong.
Adding something like "http://...." to a hosts file is wrong, and could
even prevent the other parts of that line to work properly.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Razi,
Razi Khaja wrote:
>>
> Adding 10.0.0.115 to your hosts file shouldnt hurt.
That is correct.
>
> But try adding this as well in your hosts file
> 127.0.0.1 localhost michealrogers.com <http://michealrogers.net/>
> www.michealrogers.com <http://www.michealrogers.net/>
But that is wrong.
Adding something like "http://...." to a hosts file is wrong, and could
even prevent the other parts of that line to work properly.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Razi!
No luck! So far! But typing in 10.0.0.115 is the only thing that works.
Here is what my ISP told me:
"Michael,
Your Linksys is on private ip space and needs to be public.
You can do 1 of 2 things.
1. switch your Netopia to a bridge and hard code your Public IP info into your Linksys.
2. Do a static Map in your Netopia mapping you public IP to 192.1068.1.2 which is the IP of your Linksys.
I am pretty busy with meetings tomorrow but I will try to give you a call and explain.
I do want to add that Nemont does not support this and only supports service to your dmarc. I will personally on my own time try to help you out.
There is just too much information on servers / networks and we want to focus on providing good internet service.
Thank you
Derrick"
If I knew how to do a static Map in the Netopia modem I would have tried that second option.
From: Razi Khaja
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:31 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Hello Michael
If you are having trouble accessing the site at
http://www.michaelsrogers.com/ from your internal network, try changing
the entry in the hosts file to say "10.0.0.115 www.michaelsrogers.com"
with the www. The hostnames with and without the www are completely
independent as far as the hosts file is concerned.
Adding 10.0.0.115 to your hosts file shouldnt hurt.
But try adding this as well in your hosts file
127.0.0.1 localhost michealrogers.com www.michealrogers.com
127.0.0.1 is a special IP number ... this will allow you to see your webpage sitting at your computer running apache using your url www.michaelsrogers.com
Try it, let me know if it works.
Michael S. Rogers
(406) 967-2385
Web Sites: http://www.michaelsrogers.net & http://www.michaelsrogers.net/trainwreck/Wreck.html
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hello Michael
> If you are having trouble accessing the site at
> http://www.michaelsrogers.com/ from your internal network, try changing
> the entry in the hosts file to say "10.0.0.115 www.michaelsrogers.com"
> with the www. The hostnames with and without the www are completely
> independent as far as the hosts file is concerned.
>
>
Adding 10.0.0.115 to your hosts file shouldnt hurt.
But try adding this as well in your hosts file
127.0.0.1 localhost michealrogers.com <http://michealrogers.net/>
www.michealrogers.com <http://www.michealrogers.net/>
127.0.0.1 is a special IP number ... this will allow you to see your webpage
sitting at your computer running apache using your url
www.michaelsrogers.com
Try it, let me know if it works.
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Michael Rogers
<mi...@michaelsrogers.net> wrote:
> My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com and I don't
> know how to shut that search feature off.
You might find command-line clients like wget or curl (or
telnet/netcat) make for much more reliable/repeatable results.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Matt McCutchen <ma...@mattmccutchen.net>.
On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 21:09 -0700, Michael Rogers wrote:
> Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head against
> a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
>
> My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP
> address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the problem is
> between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't know.
>
> In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the entry
> of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP
> address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though I
> have rebooted several times.
If you are having trouble accessing the site at
http://www.michaelsrogers.com/ from your internal network, try changing
the entry in the hosts file to say "10.0.0.115 www.michaelsrogers.com"
with the www. The hostnames with and without the www are completely
independent as far as the hosts file is concerned.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Mr. Peelman:
>
> Thanks for asking for the info. I have attached it in a Word Doc
> because it seemed easier to do it that way then ot try to past it all
> in an email.
After looking at your .doc file and pulling up your manual on the
internet, it appears that you router doesn't support this feature
without a third party firmware upgrade.
see: http://ask.metafilter.com/42917/Linksys-WRT54G-questions
I don't know of anything else to tell you. You may be able to use QoS
but I have no experience with that. Read the link.
I guess you can do it through Windows (but I don't do Windows):
http://www.hotcomm.com/FAQ/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp
Hope this helps... as an afterthought. In your hosts file try to make
sure that you use TABs instead of SPACES between the ip addresses and urls:
127.0.0.1 (TAB) url
make sure they are all TABs and I usually put 1 per line.
> *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:10 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > The "listen 80" is in the main config file.
> >
> > The only thing that works is 10.0.0.115.
> >
> > I was reading your comment about DHCP and LAN. My router is set as
> > DHCP server. I can't get what the LAN settings should be. Are
> > familiar with the Linksys Router. If you are, then would any
> settings
> > in the advanced routing tab do anything for me here? If it does
> then
> > I'll attach a copy of the routing tables that are in the router for
> > you to look at.
>
> If your router supports it (what router do you have?) there
> should be
> a place where you can tell the router to assign a user selected ip to
> the same machine every time. Every machine on your network has a
> different (unique) MAC (Media Access Control) address. This address
> doesn't change unless you manually change it. Show us your full
> 'hosts'
> file and the LAN specific info from your router.
>
> In my Netgear router it's called 'Address Reservation' under
> Advanced->LAN IP Setup. It is a list of ip addresses that gets
> assigned
> to the various machines on my network, looks like:
>
> IP address Device Name MAC Address
> 192.168.1.5 LINUX-SERVER ??:??:??:??:??:??
> 192.168.1.4 gfriend-desktop ??:??:??:??:??:??
> 192.168.1.2 dell2350-desktop ??:??:??:??:??:??
> 192.168.1.3 amd64x2 0A:1B:2C:3D:4E:5F (example -
> numbers/letters made up)
>
> ...of course you would see numbers/letters instead of ??. My
> server is
> 192.168.1.3 and that address gets assigned to the computer that
> reports
> itself as MAC 0A:1B:2C:3D:4E:5F. This info is setup right along with
> 'Use router as DHCP server?' but that is for my netgear. Now if you
> have this and then tell your router to port forward all HTTP
> traffic to
> 192.168.1.3 port 80 (substitute your info) you should have a setup
> that
> survives reboots.
>
>
> > *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:05 AM
> > *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
> >
> > Michael Rogers wrote:
> > > My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com
> > and I
> > > don't know how to shut that search feature off.
> > >
> > > *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
> > > *To:* users@httpd.apache.org
> <ma...@httpd.apache.org> <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> > <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> > > *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server -
> Maybe
> > >
> > > Michael Rogers wrote:
> > > > Norman!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I
> slamming my head
> > > against
> > > > a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
> > > >
> > >
> > What does the apache config file look like? You should have:
> >
> > Listen 80
> >
> > in the main config.
> >
> > and it should answer if you type any of:
> >
> > 127.0.0.1
> > 10.0.0.115 (current machine ip as assigned by the router)
> > localhost
> >
> > ...into your browser as long as your hosts file has:
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost
> > 10.0.0.115 localhost
> >
> > 127.0.0.1 is always set as the local machine (loopback)
> > 10.0.0.115 is assigned by your router and doesn't need to be set
> > in the
> > hosts file unless you configure the router to assign that ip
> to that
> > machine all the time.
> >
> >
> > You have been making a lot of changes lately. You might
> want to
> > see if
> > there is a computer group in your area. If so, there is
> bound to be
> > someone that can help you. Believe it or not, once this is
> set up
> > properly and you can see how it works it's not hard to
> understand.
> >
> > > > My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the
> > static IP
> > > > address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I
> know the
> > > problem is
> > > > between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just
> where I
> > don't
> > > know.
> > > >
> > > > In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I
> > made the
> > > entry
> > > > of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same
> machine has
> > an IP
> > > > address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with
> it even
> > though I
> > > > have rebooted several times.
> > > >
> > > On this machine, if you type in your browser:
> > >
> > > michaelsrogers.com
> > >
> > > it should work without even going through the router
> > >
> > >
> > > > In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding
> > entries to
> > > point
> > > > to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
> > > >
> > > > When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that
> has the
> > > Apache on
> > > > it, and make it a static IP address then none of my
> > computers will
> > > > connect to the internet
> > > >
> > > > There is something that I missed.
> > > >
> > > > I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the
> alternate
> > > > Configuration tab in use the first three lines and
> see what
> > > happens.
> > > > The statement in the setting tab says "if this
> computer is
> > used on
> > > > more then one network. enter the alternate IP
> settings below."
> > > >
> > > > Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate
> > remark, I
> > > have
> > > > appreciated the help that everyone has given me so
> far. I
> > would
> > > just
> > > > ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I
> might just
> > > get the
> > > > problem resolved with your help!
> > > *Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net
> <http://www.michaelsrogers.net>
> > <http://www.michaelsrogers.net>
> > > <http://www.michaelsrogers.net> on your apache server
> or on
> > > ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com
> addresses
> > > resolve to
> > > different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world
> to see
> > the .com
> > > address?
> > >
> > > As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address,
> > the port
> > > forwarding should work fine as long as your provider
> doesn't
> > block
> > > port
> > > 80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow
> you to
> > 'visit'
> > > your own server from inside your network. I have the same
> > problem
> > > with
> > > my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file
> like you
> > > above. If
> > > you have more than one computer in your network, you
> need to
> > > create the
> > > same entries in their hosts files if you intend on
> viewing your
> > > website
> > > from them as well. If this is the case then more than
> likely you
> > > need to
> > > have your router set as the DHCP server (the router
> assigns
> > > addresses)
> > > and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the
> same
> > > address (you
> > > enter the address) to the same computer every time.
> > >
> > > *
> > > --
> > > Norman Registered Linux user #461062 -Have you been to
> > > www.apache.org <http://www.apache.org>
> <http://www.apache.org>
> > <http://www.apache.org> yet?-
> > >
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Mr. Peelman:
Thanks for asking for the info. I have attached it in a Word Doc because it seemed easier to do it that way then ot try to past it all in an email.
From: Norman Peelman
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:10 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> The "listen 80" is in the main config file.
>
> The only thing that works is 10.0.0.115.
>
> I was reading your comment about DHCP and LAN. My router is set as
> DHCP server. I can't get what the LAN settings should be. Are
> familiar with the Linksys Router. If you are, then would any settings
> in the advanced routing tab do anything for me here? If it does then
> I'll attach a copy of the routing tables that are in the router for
> you to look at.
If your router supports it (what router do you have?) there should be
a place where you can tell the router to assign a user selected ip to
the same machine every time. Every machine on your network has a
different (unique) MAC (Media Access Control) address. This address
doesn't change unless you manually change it. Show us your full 'hosts'
file and the LAN specific info from your router.
In my Netgear router it's called 'Address Reservation' under
Advanced->LAN IP Setup. It is a list of ip addresses that gets assigned
to the various machines on my network, looks like:
IP address Device Name MAC Address
192.168.1.5 LINUX-SERVER ??:??:??:??:??:??
192.168.1.4 gfriend-desktop ??:??:??:??:??:??
192.168.1.2 dell2350-desktop ??:??:??:??:??:??
192.168.1.3 amd64x2 0A:1B:2C:3D:4E:5F (example -
numbers/letters made up)
...of course you would see numbers/letters instead of ??. My server is
192.168.1.3 and that address gets assigned to the computer that reports
itself as MAC 0A:1B:2C:3D:4E:5F. This info is setup right along with
'Use router as DHCP server?' but that is for my netgear. Now if you
have this and then tell your router to port forward all HTTP traffic to
192.168.1.3 port 80 (substitute your info) you should have a setup that
survives reboots.
> *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:05 AM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com
> and I
> > don't know how to shut that search feature off.
> >
> > *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
> > *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
> >
> > Michael Rogers wrote:
> > > Norman!
> > >
> > > Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head
> > against
> > > a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
> > >
> >
> What does the apache config file look like? You should have:
>
> Listen 80
>
> in the main config.
>
> and it should answer if you type any of:
>
> 127.0.0.1
> 10.0.0.115 (current machine ip as assigned by the router)
> localhost
>
> ...into your browser as long as your hosts file has:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 10.0.0.115 localhost
>
> 127.0.0.1 is always set as the local machine (loopback)
> 10.0.0.115 is assigned by your router and doesn't need to be set
> in the
> hosts file unless you configure the router to assign that ip to that
> machine all the time.
>
>
> You have been making a lot of changes lately. You might want to
> see if
> there is a computer group in your area. If so, there is bound to be
> someone that can help you. Believe it or not, once this is set up
> properly and you can see how it works it's not hard to understand.
>
> > > My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the
> static IP
> > > address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the
> > problem is
> > > between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I
> don't
> > know.
> > >
> > > In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I
> made the
> > entry
> > > of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has
> an IP
> > > address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even
> though I
> > > have rebooted several times.
> > >
> > On this machine, if you type in your browser:
> >
> > michaelsrogers.com
> >
> > it should work without even going through the router
> >
> >
> > > In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding
> entries to
> > point
> > > to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
> > >
> > > When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the
> > Apache on
> > > it, and make it a static IP address then none of my
> computers will
> > > connect to the internet
> > >
> > > There is something that I missed.
> > >
> > > I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> > > Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what
> > happens.
> > > The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is
> used on
> > > more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
> > >
> > > Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate
> remark, I
> > have
> > > appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I
> would
> > just
> > > ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just
> > get the
> > > problem resolved with your help!
> > *Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net
> <http://www.michaelsrogers.net>
> > <http://www.michaelsrogers.net> on your apache server or on
> > ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses
> > resolve to
> > different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see
> the .com
> > address?
> >
> > As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address,
> the port
> > forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't
> block
> > port
> > 80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to
> 'visit'
> > your own server from inside your network. I have the same
> problem
> > with
> > my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you
> > above. If
> > you have more than one computer in your network, you need to
> > create the
> > same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your
> > website
> > from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you
> > need to
> > have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns
> > addresses)
> > and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same
> > address (you
> > enter the address) to the same computer every time.
> >
> > *
> > --
> > Norman Registered Linux user #461062 -Have you been to
> > www.apache.org <http://www.apache.org>
> <http://www.apache.org> yet?-
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> The "listen 80" is in the main config file.
>
> The only thing that works is 10.0.0.115.
>
> I was reading your comment about DHCP and LAN. My router is set as
> DHCP server. I can't get what the LAN settings should be. Are
> familiar with the Linksys Router. If you are, then would any settings
> in the advanced routing tab do anything for me here? If it does then
> I'll attach a copy of the routing tables that are in the router for
> you to look at.
If your router supports it (what router do you have?) there should be
a place where you can tell the router to assign a user selected ip to
the same machine every time. Every machine on your network has a
different (unique) MAC (Media Access Control) address. This address
doesn't change unless you manually change it. Show us your full 'hosts'
file and the LAN specific info from your router.
In my Netgear router it's called 'Address Reservation' under
Advanced->LAN IP Setup. It is a list of ip addresses that gets assigned
to the various machines on my network, looks like:
IP address Device Name MAC Address
192.168.1.5 LINUX-SERVER ??:??:??:??:??:??
192.168.1.4 gfriend-desktop ??:??:??:??:??:??
192.168.1.2 dell2350-desktop ??:??:??:??:??:??
192.168.1.3 amd64x2 0A:1B:2C:3D:4E:5F (example -
numbers/letters made up)
...of course you would see numbers/letters instead of ??. My server is
192.168.1.3 and that address gets assigned to the computer that reports
itself as MAC 0A:1B:2C:3D:4E:5F. This info is setup right along with
'Use router as DHCP server?' but that is for my netgear. Now if you
have this and then tell your router to port forward all HTTP traffic to
192.168.1.3 port 80 (substitute your info) you should have a setup that
survives reboots.
> *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:05 AM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com
> and I
> > don't know how to shut that search feature off.
> >
> > *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
> > *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
> >
> > Michael Rogers wrote:
> > > Norman!
> > >
> > > Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head
> > against
> > > a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
> > >
> >
> What does the apache config file look like? You should have:
>
> Listen 80
>
> in the main config.
>
> and it should answer if you type any of:
>
> 127.0.0.1
> 10.0.0.115 (current machine ip as assigned by the router)
> localhost
>
> ...into your browser as long as your hosts file has:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 10.0.0.115 localhost
>
> 127.0.0.1 is always set as the local machine (loopback)
> 10.0.0.115 is assigned by your router and doesn't need to be set
> in the
> hosts file unless you configure the router to assign that ip to that
> machine all the time.
>
>
> You have been making a lot of changes lately. You might want to
> see if
> there is a computer group in your area. If so, there is bound to be
> someone that can help you. Believe it or not, once this is set up
> properly and you can see how it works it's not hard to understand.
>
> > > My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the
> static IP
> > > address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the
> > problem is
> > > between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I
> don't
> > know.
> > >
> > > In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I
> made the
> > entry
> > > of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has
> an IP
> > > address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even
> though I
> > > have rebooted several times.
> > >
> > On this machine, if you type in your browser:
> >
> > michaelsrogers.com
> >
> > it should work without even going through the router
> >
> >
> > > In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding
> entries to
> > point
> > > to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
> > >
> > > When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the
> > Apache on
> > > it, and make it a static IP address then none of my
> computers will
> > > connect to the internet
> > >
> > > There is something that I missed.
> > >
> > > I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> > > Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what
> > happens.
> > > The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is
> used on
> > > more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
> > >
> > > Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate
> remark, I
> > have
> > > appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I
> would
> > just
> > > ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just
> > get the
> > > problem resolved with your help!
> > *Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net
> <http://www.michaelsrogers.net>
> > <http://www.michaelsrogers.net> on your apache server or on
> > ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses
> > resolve to
> > different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see
> the .com
> > address?
> >
> > As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address,
> the port
> > forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't
> block
> > port
> > 80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to
> 'visit'
> > your own server from inside your network. I have the same
> problem
> > with
> > my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you
> > above. If
> > you have more than one computer in your network, you need to
> > create the
> > same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your
> > website
> > from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you
> > need to
> > have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns
> > addresses)
> > and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same
> > address (you
> > enter the address) to the same computer every time.
> >
> > *
> > --
> > Norman Registered Linux user #461062 -Have you been to
> > www.apache.org <http://www.apache.org>
> <http://www.apache.org> yet?-
> >
> >
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> >
> > Michael S. Rogers
> > (406) 967-2385
> >
> > Web Sites: http://www.michaelsrogers.net &
> > http://www.michaelsrogers.net/trainwreck/Wreck.html
>
>
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> http://www.michaelsrogers.net/trainwreck/Wreck.html
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Jonathan Mangin <jo...@comcast.net>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Rogers" <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
The "listen 80" is in the main config file.
The only thing that works is 10.0.0.115.
I was reading your comment about DHCP and LAN. My router is set as DHCP
server. I can't get what the LAN settings should be. Are familiar with the
Linksys Router. If you are, then would any settings in the advanced routing
tab do anything for me here? If it does then I'll attach a copy of the
routing tables that are in the router for you to look at.
From: Norman Peelman
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:05 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com and I
> don't know how to shut that search feature off.
>
> *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > Norman!
> >
> > Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head
> against
> > a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
> >
>
What does the apache config file look like? You should have:
Listen 80
in the main config.
and it should answer if you type any of:
127.0.0.1
10.0.0.115 (current machine ip as assigned by the router)
localhost
...into your browser as long as your hosts file has:
127.0.0.1 localhost
10.0.0.115 localhost
127.0.0.1 is always set as the local machine (loopback)
10.0.0.115 is assigned by your router and doesn't need to be set in the
hosts file unless you configure the router to assign that ip to that
machine all the time.
You have been making a lot of changes lately. You might want to see if
there is a computer group in your area. If so, there is bound to be
someone that can help you. Believe it or not, once this is set up
properly and you can see how it works it's not hard to understand.
> > My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP
> > address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the
> problem is
> > between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't
> know.
> >
> > In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the
> entry
> > of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP
> > address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though
I
> > have rebooted several times.
> >
> On this machine, if you type in your browser:
>
> michaelsrogers.com
>
> it should work without even going through the router
>
>
> > In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding entries to
> point
> > to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
> >
> > When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the
> Apache on
> > it, and make it a static IP address then none of my computers will
> > connect to the internet
> >
> > There is something that I missed.
> >
> > I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> > Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what
> happens.
> > The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is used on
> > more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
> >
> > Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate remark, I
> have
> > appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I would
> just
> > ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just
> get the
> > problem resolved with your help!
> *Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net
> <http://www.michaelsrogers.net> on your apache server or on
> ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses
> resolve to
> different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see the
.com
> address?
>
> As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address, the port
> forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't block
> port
> 80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to 'visit'
> your own server from inside your network. I have the same problem
> with
> my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you
> above. If
> you have more than one computer in your network, you need to
> create the
> same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your
> website
> from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you
> need to
> have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns
> addresses)
> and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same
> address (you
> enter the address) to the same computer every time.
>
> *
> --
> Norman Registered Linux user #461062 -Have you been to
> www.apache.org <http://www.apache.org> yet?-
>
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>
> Web Sites: http://www.michaelsrogers.net &
> http://www.michaelsrogers.net/trainwreck/Wreck.html
If you're using port-forwarding you should turn off DHCP in
the router and use static IPs for each workstation. At least,
that's what my (old) LinkSys manual says.
--Jon
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
The "listen 80" is in the main config file.
The only thing that works is 10.0.0.115.
I was reading your comment about DHCP and LAN. My router is set as DHCP server. I can't get what the LAN settings should be. Are familiar with the Linksys Router. If you are, then would any settings in the advanced routing tab do anything for me here? If it does then I'll attach a copy of the routing tables that are in the router for you to look at.
From: Norman Peelman
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:05 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com and I
> don't know how to shut that search feature off.
>
> *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > Norman!
> >
> > Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head
> against
> > a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
> >
>
What does the apache config file look like? You should have:
Listen 80
in the main config.
and it should answer if you type any of:
127.0.0.1
10.0.0.115 (current machine ip as assigned by the router)
localhost
...into your browser as long as your hosts file has:
127.0.0.1 localhost
10.0.0.115 localhost
127.0.0.1 is always set as the local machine (loopback)
10.0.0.115 is assigned by your router and doesn't need to be set in the
hosts file unless you configure the router to assign that ip to that
machine all the time.
You have been making a lot of changes lately. You might want to see if
there is a computer group in your area. If so, there is bound to be
someone that can help you. Believe it or not, once this is set up
properly and you can see how it works it's not hard to understand.
> > My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP
> > address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the
> problem is
> > between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't
> know.
> >
> > In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the
> entry
> > of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP
> > address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though I
> > have rebooted several times.
> >
> On this machine, if you type in your browser:
>
> michaelsrogers.com
>
> it should work without even going through the router
>
>
> > In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding entries to
> point
> > to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
> >
> > When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the
> Apache on
> > it, and make it a static IP address then none of my computers will
> > connect to the internet
> >
> > There is something that I missed.
> >
> > I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> > Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what
> happens.
> > The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is used on
> > more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
> >
> > Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate remark, I
> have
> > appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I would
> just
> > ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just
> get the
> > problem resolved with your help!
> *Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net
> <http://www.michaelsrogers.net> on your apache server or on
> ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses
> resolve to
> different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see the .com
> address?
>
> As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address, the port
> forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't block
> port
> 80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to 'visit'
> your own server from inside your network. I have the same problem
> with
> my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you
> above. If
> you have more than one computer in your network, you need to
> create the
> same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your
> website
> from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you
> need to
> have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns
> addresses)
> and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same
> address (you
> enter the address) to the same computer every time.
>
> *
> --
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> www.apache.org <http://www.apache.org> yet?-
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com and I
> don't know how to shut that search feature off.
>
> *From:* Norman Peelman <ma...@cfl.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > Norman!
> >
> > Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head
> against
> > a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
> >
>
What does the apache config file look like? You should have:
Listen 80
in the main config.
and it should answer if you type any of:
127.0.0.1
10.0.0.115 (current machine ip as assigned by the router)
localhost
...into your browser as long as your hosts file has:
127.0.0.1 localhost
10.0.0.115 localhost
127.0.0.1 is always set as the local machine (loopback)
10.0.0.115 is assigned by your router and doesn't need to be set in the
hosts file unless you configure the router to assign that ip to that
machine all the time.
You have been making a lot of changes lately. You might want to see if
there is a computer group in your area. If so, there is bound to be
someone that can help you. Believe it or not, once this is set up
properly and you can see how it works it's not hard to understand.
> > My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP
> > address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the
> problem is
> > between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't
> know.
> >
> > In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the
> entry
> > of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP
> > address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though I
> > have rebooted several times.
> >
> On this machine, if you type in your browser:
>
> michaelsrogers.com
>
> it should work without even going through the router
>
>
> > In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding entries to
> point
> > to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
> >
> > When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the
> Apache on
> > it, and make it a static IP address then none of my computers will
> > connect to the internet
> >
> > There is something that I missed.
> >
> > I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> > Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what
> happens.
> > The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is used on
> > more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
> >
> > Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate remark, I
> have
> > appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I would
> just
> > ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just
> get the
> > problem resolved with your help!
> *Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net
> <http://www.michaelsrogers.net> on your apache server or on
> ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses
> resolve to
> different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see the .com
> address?
>
> As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address, the port
> forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't block
> port
> 80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to 'visit'
> your own server from inside your network. I have the same problem
> with
> my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you
> above. If
> you have more than one computer in your network, you need to
> create the
> same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your
> website
> from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you
> need to
> have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns
> addresses)
> and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same
> address (you
> enter the address) to the same computer every time.
>
> *
> --
> Norman Registered Linux user #461062 -Have you been to
> www.apache.org <http://www.apache.org> yet?-
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
My browsers just do a search of the web for michalesrogers.com and I don't know how to shut that search feature off.
From: Norman Peelman
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:39 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Norman!
>
> Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head against
> a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
>
> My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP
> address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the problem is
> between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't know.
>
> In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the entry
> of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP
> address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though I
> have rebooted several times.
>
On this machine, if you type in your browser:
michaelsrogers.com
it should work without even going through the router
> In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding entries to point
> to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
>
> When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the Apache on
> it, and make it a static IP address then none of my computers will
> connect to the internet
>
> There is something that I missed.
>
> I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what happens.
> The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is used on
> more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
>
> Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate remark, I have
> appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I would just
> ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just get the
> problem resolved with your help!
*Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net on your apache server or on
ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses resolve to
different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see the .com
address?
As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address, the port
forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't block port
80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to 'visit'
your own server from inside your network. I have the same problem with
my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you above. If
you have more than one computer in your network, you need to create the
same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your website
from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you need to
have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns addresses)
and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same address (you
enter the address) to the same computer every time.
*
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Norman!
>
> Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head against
> a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
>
> My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP
> address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the problem is
> between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't know.
>
> In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the entry
> of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP
> address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though I
> have rebooted several times.
>
On this machine, if you type in your browser:
michaelsrogers.com
it should work without even going through the router
> In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding entries to point
> to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
>
> When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the Apache on
> it, and make it a static IP address then none of my computers will
> connect to the internet
>
> There is something that I missed.
>
> I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate
> Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what happens.
> The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is used on
> more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
>
> Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate remark, I have
> appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I would just
> ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just get the
> problem resolved with your help!
*Are you hosting www.michaelsrogers.net on your apache server or on
ipower? I'm confused as to why your .net and .com addresses resolve to
different ip addresses. Do you want the outside world to see the .com
address?
As long as your 'server' computer keeps the same address, the port
forwarding should work fine as long as your provider doesn't block port
80. A big problem could be if your router won't allow you to 'visit'
your own server from inside your network. I have the same problem with
my newest netgear router. I had to set the hosts file like you above. If
you have more than one computer in your network, you need to create the
same entries in their hosts files if you intend on viewing your website
from them as well. If this is the case then more than likely you need to
have your router set as the DHCP server (the router assigns addresses)
and then in the LAN IP setup you tell it to assign the same address (you
enter the address) to the same computer every time.
*
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Norman!
Thanks for the encouragement! I feel like I slamming my head against a telephone pole as I am getting nowhere.
My DSL modem that connects me to the internet has the static IP address of "66.113.46.108 michaelsrogers.com". I know the problem is between the DSL modem and my Apache Server. Just where I don't know.
In the host file on the machine that the Apache is on I made the entry of "10.0.0.115 michaelsrogers.com". This same machine has an IP address of 10.0.0.115 and seems to be staying with it even though I have rebooted several times.
In my Linksys router I have made the port forwarding entries to point to "10.0.0.115 on port 80.
When I turn off the DHCP server in my computer that has the Apache on it, and make it a static IP address then none of my computers will connect to the internet
There is something that I missed.
I am going to try going into TCP/IP settings in the alternate Configuration tab in use the first three lines and see what happens. The statement in the setting tab says "if this computer is used on more then one network. enter the alternate IP settings below."
Expect for the one guy/gal who made the inappropriate remark, I have appreciated the help that everyone has given me so far. I would just ask that everyone please be patient with me, and I might just get the problem resolved with your help!
From: Norman Peelman
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:26 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> André Warnier <ma...@ice-sa.com>! you said "Well actually, I was
> asking the question because I already gave you the answer in a
> previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :"
>
> There are several very nice people trying their best to help me, so I
> may have missed what you had said or I tried what you said and it
> didn't work. I also have some medical problems here that interfere
> with my concentration. I really don't need the snappy remarks!
>
> I'll take this time here to say thanks to the others that are trying
> to help me! After this I may just unsubscribe from this forum.
>
>
Don't worry about it... just let us know when you resolve the issue
and wha the fix was. It may help someone else.
> *From:* André Warnier <ma...@ice-sa.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 1:19 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > That why I am asking the questions! If I know I might be able
> to make it work.
>
> Well actually, I was asking the question because I already gave
> you the
> answer in a previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :
>
> quote
> I) computers work with IP addresses, not with names. That may
> surprise
> you, but it is so.
> When you tell your browser to get "www.google.com
> <http://www.google.com>" :
> - it first looks in its own local "hosts" file to see if there is a
> translation for "www.google.com <http://www.google.com>" into an
> IP address like 1.2.3.4
> The local hosts file can be found :
> under Unix/Linux, in /etc/hosts
> under Windows, in windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
> - if the local hosts file does not provide a translation, then your
> browser asks "the DNS system". That is something complicated, but
> basically it means that it will need the IP address of another
> computer
> known as a DNS Server, and it will send a message to that IP address,
> asking for the IP address of "www.google.com <http://www.google.com>"
> - if the browser cannot find finally an IP address for
> www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
> with any of the above, it gives up and tells you so.
> unquote
>
> So, when one of your internal workstations is told to access
> "http://www.michaelrogers.com", it will do like it is explained above.
> And, for the IP address of "www.michaelrogers.com
> <http://www.michaelrogers.com>", you want your
> internal workstations to obtain the internal IP address 10.0.0.115,
> because you don't want them to try some Internet address out
> there, when
> the Apache server is right under their nose at the IP adress
> 10.0.0.115,
> right ?
> So you have 2 choices in order to obtain that :
> - either you have an internal DNS server, that could respond to the
> enquiries of your internal workstations, and give them
> "10.0.0.115" as
> response to the question : what is the IP address of
> www.michaelrogers.com <http://www.michaelrogers.com>" ?
> - or, you add a line into each local workstation's "hosts" file like :
> 10.0.0.115 www.michaelrogers.com <http://www.michaelrogers.com>
>
> The second one is the easiest to do, if you only have a few internal
> workstations.
> Try it.
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Norman Peelman <np...@cfl.rr.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> André Warnier <ma...@ice-sa.com>! you said "Well actually, I was
> asking the question because I already gave you the answer in a
> previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :"
>
> There are several very nice people trying their best to help me, so I
> may have missed what you had said or I tried what you said and it
> didn't work. I also have some medical problems here that interfere
> with my concentration. I really don't need the snappy remarks!
>
> I'll take this time here to say thanks to the others that are trying
> to help me! After this I may just unsubscribe from this forum.
>
>
Don't worry about it... just let us know when you resolve the issue
and wha the fix was. It may help someone else.
> *From:* André Warnier <ma...@ice-sa.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2009 1:19 PM
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org <ma...@httpd.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
> Michael Rogers wrote:
> > That why I am asking the questions! If I know I might be able
> to make it work.
>
> Well actually, I was asking the question because I already gave
> you the
> answer in a previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :
>
> quote
> I) computers work with IP addresses, not with names. That may
> surprise
> you, but it is so.
> When you tell your browser to get "www.google.com
> <http://www.google.com>" :
> - it first looks in its own local "hosts" file to see if there is a
> translation for "www.google.com <http://www.google.com>" into an
> IP address like 1.2.3.4
> The local hosts file can be found :
> under Unix/Linux, in /etc/hosts
> under Windows, in windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
> - if the local hosts file does not provide a translation, then your
> browser asks "the DNS system". That is something complicated, but
> basically it means that it will need the IP address of another
> computer
> known as a DNS Server, and it will send a message to that IP address,
> asking for the IP address of "www.google.com <http://www.google.com>"
> - if the browser cannot find finally an IP address for
> www.google.com <http://www.google.com>
> with any of the above, it gives up and tells you so.
> unquote
>
> So, when one of your internal workstations is told to access
> "http://www.michaelrogers.com", it will do like it is explained above.
> And, for the IP address of "www.michaelrogers.com
> <http://www.michaelrogers.com>", you want your
> internal workstations to obtain the internal IP address 10.0.0.115,
> because you don't want them to try some Internet address out
> there, when
> the Apache server is right under their nose at the IP adress
> 10.0.0.115,
> right ?
> So you have 2 choices in order to obtain that :
> - either you have an internal DNS server, that could respond to the
> enquiries of your internal workstations, and give them
> "10.0.0.115" as
> response to the question : what is the IP address of
> www.michaelrogers.com <http://www.michaelrogers.com>" ?
> - or, you add a line into each local workstation's "hosts" file like :
> 10.0.0.115 www.michaelrogers.com <http://www.michaelrogers.com>
>
> The second one is the easiest to do, if you only have a few internal
> workstations.
> Try it.
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
André Warnier! you said "Well actually, I was asking the question because I already gave you the answer in a previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :"
There are several very nice people trying their best to help me, so I may have missed what you had said or I tried what you said and it didn't work. I also have some medical problems here that interfere with my concentration. I really don't need the snappy remarks!
I'll take this time here to say thanks to the others that are trying to help me! After this I may just unsubscribe from this forum.
From: André Warnier
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:19 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> That why I am asking the questions! If I know I might be able to make it work.
Well actually, I was asking the question because I already gave you the
answer in a previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :
quote
I) computers work with IP addresses, not with names. That may surprise
you, but it is so.
When you tell your browser to get "www.google.com" :
- it first looks in its own local "hosts" file to see if there is a
translation for "www.google.com" into an IP address like 1.2.3.4
The local hosts file can be found :
under Unix/Linux, in /etc/hosts
under Windows, in windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
- if the local hosts file does not provide a translation, then your
browser asks "the DNS system". That is something complicated, but
basically it means that it will need the IP address of another computer
known as a DNS Server, and it will send a message to that IP address,
asking for the IP address of "www.google.com"
- if the browser cannot find finally an IP address for www.google.com
with any of the above, it gives up and tells you so.
unquote
So, when one of your internal workstations is told to access
"http://www.michaelrogers.com", it will do like it is explained above.
And, for the IP address of "www.michaelrogers.com", you want your
internal workstations to obtain the internal IP address 10.0.0.115,
because you don't want them to try some Internet address out there, when
the Apache server is right under their nose at the IP adress 10.0.0.115,
right ?
So you have 2 choices in order to obtain that :
- either you have an internal DNS server, that could respond to the
enquiries of your internal workstations, and give them "10.0.0.115" as
response to the question : what is the IP address of
www.michaelrogers.com" ?
- or, you add a line into each local workstation's "hosts" file like :
10.0.0.115 www.michaelrogers.com
The second one is the easiest to do, if you only have a few internal
workstations.
Try it.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> That why I am asking the questions! If I know I might be able to make it work.
Well actually, I was asking the question because I already gave you the
answer in a previous post. So make an effort and read it this time :
quote
I) computers work with IP addresses, not with names. That may surprise
you, but it is so.
When you tell your browser to get "www.google.com" :
- it first looks in its own local "hosts" file to see if there is a
translation for "www.google.com" into an IP address like 1.2.3.4
The local hosts file can be found :
under Unix/Linux, in /etc/hosts
under Windows, in windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
- if the local hosts file does not provide a translation, then your
browser asks "the DNS system". That is something complicated, but
basically it means that it will need the IP address of another computer
known as a DNS Server, and it will send a message to that IP address,
asking for the IP address of "www.google.com"
- if the browser cannot find finally an IP address for www.google.com
with any of the above, it gives up and tells you so.
unquote
So, when one of your internal workstations is told to access
"http://www.michaelrogers.com", it will do like it is explained above.
And, for the IP address of "www.michaelrogers.com", you want your
internal workstations to obtain the internal IP address 10.0.0.115,
because you don't want them to try some Internet address out there, when
the Apache server is right under their nose at the IP adress 10.0.0.115,
right ?
So you have 2 choices in order to obtain that :
- either you have an internal DNS server, that could respond to the
enquiries of your internal workstations, and give them "10.0.0.115" as
response to the question : what is the IP address of
www.michaelrogers.com" ?
- or, you add a line into each local workstation's "hosts" file like :
10.0.0.115 www.michaelrogers.com
The second one is the easiest to do, if you only have a few internal
workstations.
Try it.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
That why I am asking the questions! If I know I might be able to make it work.
From: André Warnier
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:38 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
[...]
> I can reach the Apache from all of my internal machines and it works fine. Using http://www.michaelsrogers.com does not work.
And do you understand why it does not work with
"http://www.michaelsrogers.com" from your internal workstations ?
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
[...]
> I can reach the Apache from all of my internal machines and it works fine. Using http://www.michaelsrogers.com does not work.
And do you understand why it does not work with
"http://www.michaelsrogers.com" from your internal workstations ?
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
From: André Warnier
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:49 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Eric:
>
> My email utility sent you to the junk mail folder and I didn't see you until now. Next I am suffering this morning from severe pain and the morphine is not helping so I may not respond back right away. My pain may be for a couple of hours or in might be for days.
>
> I do know that my computer works with IP address and not names. I know that I am having a router problem. some that are helping here can get to my modem but that is as far as they get. That's the problem that I need to resolve.
>
> Right now the machine that has the Apache on it has an IP address of 10.0.0.115. I found the host file. Am I to understand that I should put 10.0.0.115 www.michaelsrogers.com in the file right under the 127.0.0.1 localhost
You can, and it will not hurt. But that is not the main reason for your
problem.
If you do, then also do it on your other internal workstations.
Can you reach your Apache server from the other internal workstations ?
If yes, using the server address (http://10.0.0.115) *and* also using a
name (if you have done the above, then using
http://www.michaelsrogers.com) ?
I can reach the Apache from all of my internal machines and it works fine. Using http://www.michaelsrogers.com does not work.
You really should make sure it works internally, before you attempt the
"externally" part of the issue.
It is a question of having a solid base, before you attempt more
complicated things.
I can still not access your server using
"http://www.michaelsrogers.com/", but at this stage that might still be
due to many reasons and I'd rather not speculate.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Eric:
>
> My email utility sent you to the junk mail folder and I didn't see you until now. Next I am suffering this morning from severe pain and the morphine is not helping so I may not respond back right away. My pain may be for a couple of hours or in might be for days.
>
> I do know that my computer works with IP address and not names. I know that I am having a router problem. some that are helping here can get to my modem but that is as far as they get. That's the problem that I need to resolve.
>
> Right now the machine that has the Apache on it has an IP address of 10.0.0.115. I found the host file. Am I to understand that I should put 10.0.0.115 www.michaelsrogers.com in the file right under the 127.0.0.1 localhost
You can, and it will not hurt. But that is not the main reason for your
problem.
If you do, then also do it on your other internal workstations.
Can you reach your Apache server from the other internal workstations ?
If yes, using the server address (http://10.0.0.115) *and* also using a
name (if you have done the above, then using
http://www.michaelsrogers.com) ?
You really should make sure it works internally, before you attempt the
"externally" part of the issue.
It is a question of having a solid base, before you attempt more
complicated things.
I can still not access your server using
"http://www.michaelsrogers.com/", but at this stage that might still be
due to many reasons and I'd rather not speculate.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Eric:
My email utility sent you to the junk mail folder and I didn't see you until now. Next I am suffering this morning from severe pain and the morphine is not helping so I may not respond back right away. My pain may be for a couple of hours or in might be for days.
I do know that my computer works with IP address and not names. I know that I am having a router problem. some that are helping here can get to my modem but that is as far as they get. That's the problem that I need to resolve.
Right now the machine that has the Apache on it has an IP address of 10.0.0.115. I found the host file. Am I to understand that I should put 10.0.0.115 www.michaelsrogers.com in the file right under the 127.0.0.1 localhost
From: André Warnier
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:31 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Eric Covener wrote:
[...]
>
> FWIW It's quite common to not be able to access your webserver with
> it's external IP address from within your LAN.
>
Allright, I'll try to help. This has not much to do with Apache, and
more with basic TCP/IP. So let's start at the beginning.
First your internal LAN.
I) computers work with IP addresses, not with names. That may surprise
you, but it is so.
When you tell your browser to get "www.google.com" :
- it first looks in its own local "hosts" file to see if there is a
translation for "www.google.com" into an IP address like 1.2.3.4
The local hosts file can be found :
under Unix/Linux, in /etc/hosts
under Windows, in windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
- if the local hosts file does not provide a translation, then your
browser asks "the DNS system". That is something complicated, but
basically it means that it will need the IP address of another computer
known as a DNS Server, and it will send a message to that IP address,
asking for the IP address of "www.google.com"
- if the browser cannot find finally an IP address for www.google.com
with any of the above, it gives up and tells you so.
II) where your local computers get their own IP address :
there are 2 ways :
- either they are set up with a fixed IP address
- or they are set up to ask a DHCP server to give them one. For this
second possibility, the computer (usually when it starts), sends a
special "broadcast" message on the local network, asking if a nice DHCP
server would please give them a new IP address. If any DHCP server is
listening on the local network, it will consult its internal tables to
see which address it could give (it has a range of addresses), among the
ones which are still free (if it has already given an address away, it
will not give it away a second time).
That is why, when you turn off your DHCP server, your stations are not
working anymore : because they are set up to request an IP address from
a DHCP server, and there is none active, so they don't get one. And if
they do not have an IP address themselves, they cannot use TCP/IP and
thus their Internet access doesn't work anymore.
III) A workstation can use a variable IP address given by a DHCP server,
but a server should have a fixed IP address.
That is because for a workstation it does not matter : nobody will try
to find it, it just needs to find the others.
But for a server, it's different : other stations need to find it, so it
better have an address that does not change all the time.
(For the same reason that you can make a phone call to someone else from
any phone, but if someone needs to reach you, they need your number).
A part of your problem, is that you are trying to turn a workstation
into a server (an Apache server). So you have to stop it from getting a
variable IP address, and give it a fixed one.
But, you have to pick an IP address which on the other hand, your DHCP
server will not give away to someone else.
(Because two stations having the same IP address confuses everyone and
does not work).
So you need to look in your DHCP server which range of addresses it is
giving away, and pick one outside that range (just add 1 to the last
number in the DHCP range).(at the end, not at the beginning).
(If your DHCP server is also your router, it may have a web interface to
make it easy. If it is not the router but some server, then this may be
more complicated).
Now when you have done that, try from another station to access your
Apache server at the fixed IP address that you gave it.
For example :
- suppose your DHCP server is programmed to give away addresses in the
range 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.150 (51 addresses)
- suppose then that you gave your Apache workstation the fixed address
192.168.1.200 (to be well outside of the above range).
- then try "http://192.168.1.200" (from another internal station)
If you get a response from Apache, then we are already well on the way.
Next, we want all the internal stations to be able to access this Apache
server, not by IP address, but with a name. That is easier for humans.
Read Chapter I above, again, to remember how they do that.
Unfortunately, there probably isn't a DNS server on your local network,
that could be used by the internal stations.
Thus you will have to use the "hosts file" method.
On one of the workstations, locate the hosts file, and add the following
line in it :
192.168.1.151 some.nice.name
then close all browser windows on that workstation, re-start the
browser, and type "http://some.nice.name".
If everything worked according to plan, you should get the same Apache
page as before.
Now do the same on all the other workstations, et voila you have an
internal webserver. (You might want to find a nicer name than
"some.nice.name", like "www.apache.local" e.g.).
In the next installment, we'll look at the external access to your
webserver.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Eric Covener wrote:
[...]
>
> FWIW It's quite common to not be able to access your webserver with
> it's external IP address from within your LAN.
>
Allright, I'll try to help. This has not much to do with Apache, and
more with basic TCP/IP. So let's start at the beginning.
First your internal LAN.
I) computers work with IP addresses, not with names. That may surprise
you, but it is so.
When you tell your browser to get "www.google.com" :
- it first looks in its own local "hosts" file to see if there is a
translation for "www.google.com" into an IP address like 1.2.3.4
The local hosts file can be found :
under Unix/Linux, in /etc/hosts
under Windows, in windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
- if the local hosts file does not provide a translation, then your
browser asks "the DNS system". That is something complicated, but
basically it means that it will need the IP address of another computer
known as a DNS Server, and it will send a message to that IP address,
asking for the IP address of "www.google.com"
- if the browser cannot find finally an IP address for www.google.com
with any of the above, it gives up and tells you so.
II) where your local computers get their own IP address :
there are 2 ways :
- either they are set up with a fixed IP address
- or they are set up to ask a DHCP server to give them one. For this
second possibility, the computer (usually when it starts), sends a
special "broadcast" message on the local network, asking if a nice DHCP
server would please give them a new IP address. If any DHCP server is
listening on the local network, it will consult its internal tables to
see which address it could give (it has a range of addresses), among the
ones which are still free (if it has already given an address away, it
will not give it away a second time).
That is why, when you turn off your DHCP server, your stations are not
working anymore : because they are set up to request an IP address from
a DHCP server, and there is none active, so they don't get one. And if
they do not have an IP address themselves, they cannot use TCP/IP and
thus their Internet access doesn't work anymore.
III) A workstation can use a variable IP address given by a DHCP server,
but a server should have a fixed IP address.
That is because for a workstation it does not matter : nobody will try
to find it, it just needs to find the others.
But for a server, it's different : other stations need to find it, so it
better have an address that does not change all the time.
(For the same reason that you can make a phone call to someone else from
any phone, but if someone needs to reach you, they need your number).
A part of your problem, is that you are trying to turn a workstation
into a server (an Apache server). So you have to stop it from getting a
variable IP address, and give it a fixed one.
But, you have to pick an IP address which on the other hand, your DHCP
server will not give away to someone else.
(Because two stations having the same IP address confuses everyone and
does not work).
So you need to look in your DHCP server which range of addresses it is
giving away, and pick one outside that range (just add 1 to the last
number in the DHCP range).(at the end, not at the beginning).
(If your DHCP server is also your router, it may have a web interface to
make it easy. If it is not the router but some server, then this may be
more complicated).
Now when you have done that, try from another station to access your
Apache server at the fixed IP address that you gave it.
For example :
- suppose your DHCP server is programmed to give away addresses in the
range 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.150 (51 addresses)
- suppose then that you gave your Apache workstation the fixed address
192.168.1.200 (to be well outside of the above range).
- then try "http://192.168.1.200" (from another internal station)
If you get a response from Apache, then we are already well on the way.
Next, we want all the internal stations to be able to access this Apache
server, not by IP address, but with a name. That is easier for humans.
Read Chapter I above, again, to remember how they do that.
Unfortunately, there probably isn't a DNS server on your local network,
that could be used by the internal stations.
Thus you will have to use the "hosts file" method.
On one of the workstations, locate the hosts file, and add the following
line in it :
192.168.1.151 some.nice.name
then close all browser windows on that workstation, re-start the
browser, and type "http://some.nice.name".
If everything worked according to plan, you should get the same Apache
page as before.
Now do the same on all the other workstations, et voila you have an
internal webserver. (You might want to find a nicer name than
"some.nice.name", like "www.apache.local" e.g.).
In the next installment, we'll look at the external access to your
webserver.
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[users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Nicholas Sherlock <n....@gmail.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Eric!
>
> You get to my modem. take a look at the attachment. What if in the
> Destination LAN I type in 10.0.0.115 (the IP of my server) the sub mask
> and gateway. In the httpd.config file I change whatever I have there to
> michaelsrogers.com. would that work?
No, that's the wrong tab. You want the settings in "Applications and
Gaming". The first page there is "Single port forwarding".
Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Eric!
You get to my modem. take a look at the attachment. What if in the Destination LAN I type in 10.0.0.115 (the IP of my server) the sub mask and gateway. In the httpd.config file I change whatever I have there to michaelsrogers.com. would that work?
From: Eric Covener
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:34 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Michael Rogers
<mi...@michaelsrogers.net> wrote:
> Eric!
>
> I have restarted my computer that has the Apache on it. try
> http://www.michaelsrogers.com and see what you get. I'll leave it no the
> rest of the day and until noon tomorrow.
Connecting to www.michaelsrogers.com|66.113.46.108|:80... failed:
Connection refused.
--
Eric Covener
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Michael Rogers
<mi...@michaelsrogers.net> wrote:
> Eric!
>
> I have restarted my computer that has the Apache on it. try
> http://www.michaelsrogers.com and see what you get. I'll leave it no the
> rest of the day and until noon tomorrow.
Connecting to www.michaelsrogers.com|66.113.46.108|:80... failed:
Connection refused.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Windows XP home SP3
From: André Warnier
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:37 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Don't know about Eric, but I get :
Unable to connect
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at
www.michaelsrogers.com.
* The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try
again in a few moments.
which is, at the moment, to be expected... ;-)
By the way, is your system where you run Apache a windows PC, or
something else ?
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Eric!
>
> I have restarted my computer that has the Apache on it. try http://www.michaelsrogers.com and see what you get. I'll leave it no the rest of the day and until noon tomorrow.
> From: Eric Covener
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:31 PM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I don't know how you are getting the .com name to resolve to 66.133.46.108
> >> as that is my modem, I can't get it do do that. I tried disabling the DHCP
> >> on the computer that is acting as server, and did switch to static IP in the
> >> TCP/IP settings, but then I couldn't access the internet with any of my
> >> three computers.
> >
> > www.michaelsrogers.com resolves to 66.133.46.108 for me as well. The fact
> > that this is your modem is a good thing. This means that when people
> > request a page from www.michaelsrogers.com the requests get up to your
> > modem. Now all you have to figure out is how to get them from your modem,
> > through your router and into the computer running the apache web server.
> >
>
> FWIW It's quite common to not be able to access your webserver with
> it's external IP address from within your LAN.
>
> --
> Eric Covener
> covener@gmail.com
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Don't know about Eric, but I get :
Unable to connect
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at
www.michaelsrogers.com.
* The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try
again in a few moments.
which is, at the moment, to be expected... ;-)
By the way, is your system where you run Apache a windows PC, or
something else ?
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Eric!
>
> I have restarted my computer that has the Apache on it. try http://www.michaelsrogers.com and see what you get. I'll leave it no the rest of the day and until noon tomorrow.
> From: Eric Covener
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:31 PM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I don't know how you are getting the .com name to resolve to 66.133.46.108
> >> as that is my modem, I can't get it do do that. I tried disabling the DHCP
> >> on the computer that is acting as server, and did switch to static IP in the
> >> TCP/IP settings, but then I couldn't access the internet with any of my
> >> three computers.
> >
> > www.michaelsrogers.com resolves to 66.133.46.108 for me as well. The fact
> > that this is your modem is a good thing. This means that when people
> > request a page from www.michaelsrogers.com the requests get up to your
> > modem. Now all you have to figure out is how to get them from your modem,
> > through your router and into the computer running the apache web server.
> >
>
> FWIW It's quite common to not be able to access your webserver with
> it's external IP address from within your LAN.
>
> --
> Eric Covener
> covener@gmail.com
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Eric!
I have restarted my computer that has the Apache on it. try http://www.michaelsrogers.com and see what you get. I'll leave it no the rest of the day and until noon tomorrow.
From: Eric Covener
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:31 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't know how you are getting the .com name to resolve to 66.133.46.108
>> as that is my modem, I can't get it do do that. I tried disabling the DHCP
>> on the computer that is acting as server, and did switch to static IP in the
>> TCP/IP settings, but then I couldn't access the internet with any of my
>> three computers.
>
> www.michaelsrogers.com resolves to 66.133.46.108 for me as well. The fact
> that this is your modem is a good thing. This means that when people
> request a page from www.michaelsrogers.com the requests get up to your
> modem. Now all you have to figure out is how to get them from your modem,
> through your router and into the computer running the apache web server.
>
FWIW It's quite common to not be able to access your webserver with
it's external IP address from within your LAN.
--
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covener@gmail.com
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't know how you are getting the .com name to resolve to 66.133.46.108
>> as that is my modem, I can't get it do do that. I tried disabling the DHCP
>> on the computer that is acting as server, and did switch to static IP in the
>> TCP/IP settings, but then I couldn't access the internet with any of my
>> three computers.
>
> www.michaelsrogers.com resolves to 66.133.46.108 for me as well. The fact
> that this is your modem is a good thing. This means that when people
> request a page from www.michaelsrogers.com the requests get up to your
> modem. Now all you have to figure out is how to get them from your modem,
> through your router and into the computer running the apache web server.
>
FWIW It's quite common to not be able to access your webserver with
it's external IP address from within your LAN.
--
Eric Covener
covener@gmail.com
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[users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Nicholas Sherlock <n....@gmail.com>.
Michael Rogers wrote:
> Razi!
>
> Okay! now I have my port (80) forwarded to my computer 10.0.0.115. on
> my end I don't see my pages after I type in the .com domain name.
> Maybe you would try it and see if the pages come up.
> http://www.michaelsrogers.com
I just got "connection refused" as of now - what's the exact
configuration that you have for your port forwarding? To have the domain
name resolve to your local IP address on your network, you'll need to
add it as an entry in your HOST file.
Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Razi!
Okay! now I have my port (80) forwarded to my computer 10.0.0.115. on my end I don't see my pages after I type in the .com domain name. Maybe you would try it and see if the pages come up. http://www.michaelsrogers.com
From: Razi Khaja
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:49 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
A question for the port forwarding in Applications & Games. It asks for "application" I put Apache2.2 in the box, was that right or what does go there?
You can put anything you want in the "application" box, I think its just there to be a helpful reminder of what your port forwarding.
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com>.
>
> A question for the port forwarding in Applications & Games. It asks for
> "application" I put Apache2.2 in the box, was that right or what does go
> there?
>
You can put anything you want in the "application" box, I think its just
there to be a helpful reminder of what your port forwarding.
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Razi!
A question for the port forwarding in Applications & Games. It asks for "application" I put Apache2.2 in the box, was that right or what does go there?
From: Razi Khaja
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:19 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
I also would like to know what goes into the httpd.config file:
# ServerName gives the name and port that the server uses to identify itself.
# This can often be determined automatically, but we recommend you specify
# it explicitly to prevent problems during startup.
#
# If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here.
#
#ServerName localhost
ServerName 10.0.0.115
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername
You should change ServerName to be:
ServerName www.michaelsrogers.com
I also took a look at the Advanced Routing screenshot. I havent played around with that on my router so I dont know how to use that to make you situation work.
Michael S. Rogers
(406) 967-2385
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com>.
>
>
> I also would like to know what goes into the httpd.config file:
>
> # ServerName gives the name and port that the server uses to identify
> itself.
> # This can often be determined automatically, but we recommend you specify
> # it explicitly to prevent problems during startup.
> #
> # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address
> here.
> #
> #ServerName localhost
> ServerName 10.0.0.115
>
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername
You should change ServerName to be:
ServerName www.michaelsrogers.com
I also took a look at the Advanced Routing screenshot. I havent played
around with that on my router so I dont know how to use that to make you
situation work.
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Razi!
I need to tend to a medical problem first before I work on this more. That should not take me more then 45 minutes to an hour. meanwhile I would ask you to look at advanced routing in the linksys
I also would like to know what goes into the httpd.config file:
# ServerName gives the name and port that the server uses to identify itself.
# This can often be determined automatically, but we recommend you specify
# it explicitly to prevent problems during startup.
#
# If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here.
#
#ServerName localhost
ServerName 10.0.0.115
From: Razi Khaja
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 3:54 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Mt router is a linksys WRT54G.
Great! Thats the one I use, so this should be easy.
First determine the ip number of the computer running the apache web server (your apache server) by running ipconfig \all on the command line.
Next log in to your router, go to "Applications & Gaming" -> DMZ. Enable DMZ and enter the ip number of your apache server. (We can change this to use port forwarding once we know that the DMZ works. Ill help you with that afterwards.)
This should allow anyone on the internet to see your web page. For now, give that a try.
Michael S. Rogers
(406) 967-2385
Web Sites: http://www.michaelsrogers.net & http://www.michaelsrogers.net/trainwreck/Wreck.html
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Razi Khaja <ra...@gmail.com>.
>
> Mt router is a linksys WRT54G.
>
Great! Thats the one I use, so this should be easy.
First determine the ip number of the computer running the apache web server
(your apache server) by running ipconfig \all on the command line.
Next log in to your router, go to "Applications & Gaming" -> DMZ. Enable
DMZ and enter the ip number of your apache server. (We can change this to
use port forwarding once we know that the DMZ works. Ill help you with that
afterwards.)
This should allow anyone on the internet to see your web page. For now, give
that a try.
Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
Posted by Michael Rogers <mi...@michaelsrogers.net>.
Mt router is a linksys WRT54G.
From: Razi Khaja
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:33 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: Help - Name Server - Maybe
I don't know how you are getting the .com name to resolve to 66.133.46.108 as that is my modem, I can't get it do do that. I tried disabling the DHCP on the computer that is acting as server, and did switch to static IP in the TCP/IP settings, but then I couldn't access the internet with any of my three computers.
www.michaelsrogers.com resolves to 66.133.46.108 for me as well. The fact that this is your modem is a good thing. This means that when people request a page from www.michaelsrogers.com the requests get up to your modem. Now all you have to figure out is how to get them from your modem, through your router and into the computer running the apache web server.
Nicholas mentions port forwarding. An alternative is to set the DMZ on your router to point to the IP address of your computer running apache (I beleive you mentioned that this was 10.0.0.101). Port forwarding is more secure, but setting a DMZ is easier.
Doing port forwarding or setting a DMZ will solve the issue of external access to www.michaelsrogers.com. It may or may not solve the issue of internal access.
What is the manufacterer and model number of your router? It might be easier to help you if we knew this.
My ISP said that the problem was in my router, and that I had to do what they called IP mapping.
They are right its a configuration issue with your router. I think they mean port forwarding.
Michael S. Rogers
(406) 967-2385
Web Sites: http://www.michaelsrogers.net & http://www.michaelsrogers.net/trainwreck/Wreck.html