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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by Leandro <mi...@fastwebnet.it> on 2002/12/09 18:21:09 UTC
James installation and launch
Maybe this topic has already been discussed a lot, but I'm pretty new to
the list (and have already requested the faq, before you ask ^_^).
I'm trying to install James on a Win2k system (where I have already
installed Apache web server), to use it a s SMTP server (no need for a POP3
now). Everything worked out well, I had to install the Sun Java 2 SDK to
get it to work, and when running I always get the error that james.sar has
been packaged in a "deprecated" way.
Anyway I can use it, create new users and also send and receive mail, but
ONLY to myself... That is that i can send a mail from user@localhost to
user@localhost (using Outlook), but can't manage to send mail outside (i.e.
from user@localhost to anotheruser@provider.com) and also I can't send mail
from outside (from anotheruser@provider.com to user@[myIPaddress]). I put
two DNS in the conf file to solve the first problem but nothing changed...
the second problem is far from solution as well...
Any help?
Thanks,
Leo.
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> For each server name, it does calls InetAddress.getAllByName(), then calls
> getHostAddress() for each InetAddress returned, and adds them.
That'll be why mine seesm to assign IP's which aren't assigned to my machine, but are assigned in DNS then. I suspected something like that.
d.
>
> In the future, we can add support for picking up all local
> addresses defined
> to the NIC(s), but we need JDK 1.4+ for that ability.
That'd be cool.
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> I'm not sure how James spots its IP's to auto-add them,
For each server name, it does calls InetAddress.getAllByName(), then calls
getHostAddress() for each InetAddress returned, and adds them.
In the future, we can add support for picking up all local addresses defined
to the NIC(s), but we need JDK 1.4+ for that ability.
James.initialize() has the above code, and a comment outlining that proposed
future change.
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
if it doesn't spot this automatically all you need do is add it manually, I think.
I'm not sure how James spots its IP's to auto-add them, I do know from experience that it can be a bit hit and miss.
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
> Sent: 09 December 2002 19:28
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: James installation and launch
>
>
> yes i can, but SMTP AUTH shouldn't be an issue because James should
> recognize the IP as James......and not try to relay......
>
> give me a few minutes
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
> To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:20 PM
> Subject: RE: James installation and launch
>
>
> > Randy,
> >
> > > I've never been able to send email to user@[24.240.241.4]
> >
> > Really? That is odd. I just did it. I sent e-mail to
> > noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz] using the IP address of our public
> server. The log
> > entry says:
> >
> > 09/12/02 13:48:37 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
> > noel@some-broadband-company.com for [noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]]
> >
> > I just retrieved that e-mail from the server. Here is the header:
> >
> > Received: from xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ([11.22.33.44])
> > by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.1a1-cvs) with SMTP ID
> 426
> > for <noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]>;
> > Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:48:36 -0500 (EST)
> >
> > The addresses are munged just to prevent annoying spam scrappers.
> >
> > > James: Handling mail for: 24.240.241.4
> >
> > Well, that looks right.
> >
> > > host 24.240.241.4 says: 530 Authentication Required
> >
> > Hmmm ... I don't run with SMTP AUTH. The code is:
> >
> > String toDomain = recipientAddress.getHost();
> > if (!theConfigData.getMailServer().isLocalServer(toDomain))
> > { ... 530 ...}
> >
> > which is the same code we use in RecipientIsLocal:
> >
> > return mailetContext.isLocalServer(recipient.getHost())
> > && mailetContext.isLocalUser(recipient.getUser());
> >
> > and, the latter just worked for me.
> >
> > Can you test your configuration without SMTP AUTH, and see if
> the behavior
> > changes?
> >
> > --- Noel
> >
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
yes i can, but SMTP AUTH shouldn't be an issue because James should
recognize the IP as James......and not try to relay......
give me a few minutes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: James installation and launch
> Randy,
>
> > I've never been able to send email to user@[24.240.241.4]
>
> Really? That is odd. I just did it. I sent e-mail to
> noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz] using the IP address of our public server. The log
> entry says:
>
> 09/12/02 13:48:37 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
> noel@some-broadband-company.com for [noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]]
>
> I just retrieved that e-mail from the server. Here is the header:
>
> Received: from xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ([11.22.33.44])
> by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.1a1-cvs) with SMTP ID
426
> for <noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]>;
> Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:48:36 -0500 (EST)
>
> The addresses are munged just to prevent annoying spam scrappers.
>
> > James: Handling mail for: 24.240.241.4
>
> Well, that looks right.
>
> > host 24.240.241.4 says: 530 Authentication Required
>
> Hmmm ... I don't run with SMTP AUTH. The code is:
>
> String toDomain = recipientAddress.getHost();
> if (!theConfigData.getMailServer().isLocalServer(toDomain))
> { ... 530 ...}
>
> which is the same code we use in RecipientIsLocal:
>
> return mailetContext.isLocalServer(recipient.getHost())
> && mailetContext.isLocalUser(recipient.getUser());
>
> and, the latter just worked for me.
>
> Can you test your configuration without SMTP AUTH, and see if the behavior
> changes?
>
> --- Noel
>
>
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Hi,
This line (assuming you haven't edited it):
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
show that James was never sent the ip address only the username, it should read exactly as sent, and in your case you want to see
RCPT TO:<user@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]>
usernames without domains are OK under the stds. James deals with them by legitimately appending @localhost.
I suggest you check the sending s'ware.
If you want to confirm this telnet into james..
(you type lines beginning >>> James replies begin <<< )
>>> telnet localhost 25
<<< 220 killerbees.co.uk SMTP Server (JAMES SMTP Server 2.1a1-cvs) ready Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:14:57 +0000 (GMT)
>>> MAIL FROM:<danny>
<<< 250 Sender <da...@localhost> OK
>>> RCPT TO:<danny@[127.0.0.1]>
<<< 250 Recipient <danny@[127.0.0.1]> OK
>>> DATA
<<< 354 Ok Send data ending with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
>>> Subject: test
>>>
>>> test
>>> .
<<< 250 Message received
>>> quit
<<< 221 killerbees.co.uk Service closing transmission channel
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
You are correct about not having localhost configured as a servername.
You are incorrect about the machine the emails are being sent from. They are
coming from a machine other than the server but on the same LAN. The emails
have also been sent through my ISP email account, James had nothing to do
with the outbound emails.
--randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> I am guessing that you are sending from the same machine that is the
server,
> and these mail clients are deciding to eliminate the IP address since they
> detect that it is the local host. On the other hand, I seem to recall
that
> you don't have localhost in your servernames list, so once the mail client
> somewhat inadvisedly drops the @[ip] portion of the address, the result is
> no longer valid on your server.
>
> Is that right?
>
> --- Noel
>
>
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
Thanks. I was always bugged by this little oddity. The funny thing is that
it was the overall unreliability of my ISPs mail server that sent me in
search of my own server in the first place...James is good....me like
James....
Oh, I can't recall if I've mentioned this before but I really appreciate all
of the help, suggestions, and advice that I've recieved from Danny, Peter,
and you over the past several months.
Happy Holidays,
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> I was afraid that you'd get that answer. From what I have read on qmail's
> archives, they don't think too highly of the folks at Stalker software.
>
> If you put localhost back into the servernames set, it should allow these
> e-mails to be processed.
>
> Danny wrote:
> > I've come across at least one SMTP<->ARPA gateway which didn't,
> > citing the rfc's recommendation that literals only ever be
> > used as a temporary measure as a reason for not supporting them.
>
> AFAIK, RFC 2821 is the most recent that would effect that functionality.
> Section 4.1.3 says "Sometimes a host is not known to the domain name
system
> and communication (and, in particular, communication to report and repair
> the error) is blocked. To bypass this barrier a special literal form of
the
> address is allowed as an alternative to a domain name."
>
> In any event, the MTA is delivering the e-mail based upon the
> address-literal, so they are partially honoring it. The problem is that
> they are also corrupting the address by removing the address-literal.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 15:59
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
>
>
> Noel,
>
> This was the response I got from cgp-support.
> Outlook Express won't even consider letting me send an email to a
recipient
> formed like cgp's suggestions. Their first suggestion is really stupid, if
I
> knew the domain name why would I want to add the IP?
>
> *****************************
> The address in "to" is never modified. But the address in the mail
envelope
> CAN be just "user", i.e. the @[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] can be cut off. If your
> server has problems with that, use:
>
> user@domainname@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
> or even
> user@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
>
> ******************************
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
> To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
>
>
> > Randy,
> >
> > CommuniGate Pro? You might want to contact cgp-support@stalker.com, and
> ask
> > them if they comply with address-literals as defined by RFC 2821 4.1.3
> (aka
> > domain-literals in RFC 822 6.2.3).
> >
> > --- Noel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:45
> > To: James Users List
> > Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
> >
> >
> > Noel,
> > Your mail came through just fine. I also sent an email from one james
> > account to another and it worked fine. I now suspect that my ISP mail
> server
> > has been hosing the deal all along.........Bad, Bad, CommuniGate Pro!
> > Thanks,
> > Randy
> >
> >
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RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> AFAIK, RFC 2821 is the most recent that would effect that functionality.
> Section 4.1.3 says "Sometimes a host is not known to the domain
> name system
> and communication (and, in particular, communication to report and repair
> the error) is blocked. To bypass this barrier a special literal
> form of the
> address is allowed as an alternative to a domain name."
Doesn't help me with the b**** university postmasters though, they were adamant that they weren't going to allow @[ip] through their outgoing gateway, but frankly I think its laziness more than a reasonable excuse.
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RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Randy,
I was afraid that you'd get that answer. From what I have read on qmail's
archives, they don't think too highly of the folks at Stalker software.
If you put localhost back into the servernames set, it should allow these
e-mails to be processed.
Danny wrote:
> I've come across at least one SMTP<->ARPA gateway which didn't,
> citing the rfc's recommendation that literals only ever be
> used as a temporary measure as a reason for not supporting them.
AFAIK, RFC 2821 is the most recent that would effect that functionality.
Section 4.1.3 says "Sometimes a host is not known to the domain name system
and communication (and, in particular, communication to report and repair
the error) is blocked. To bypass this barrier a special literal form of the
address is allowed as an alternative to a domain name."
In any event, the MTA is delivering the e-mail based upon the
address-literal, so they are partially honoring it. The problem is that
they are also corrupting the address by removing the address-literal.
--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 15:59
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Noel,
This was the response I got from cgp-support.
Outlook Express won't even consider letting me send an email to a recipient
formed like cgp's suggestions. Their first suggestion is really stupid, if I
knew the domain name why would I want to add the IP?
*****************************
The address in "to" is never modified. But the address in the mail envelope
CAN be just "user", i.e. the @[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] can be cut off. If your
server has problems with that, use:
user@domainname@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
or even
user@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
******************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> CommuniGate Pro? You might want to contact cgp-support@stalker.com, and
ask
> them if they comply with address-literals as defined by RFC 2821 4.1.3
(aka
> domain-literals in RFC 822 6.2.3).
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:45
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
>
>
> Noel,
> Your mail came through just fine. I also sent an email from one james
> account to another and it worked fine. I now suspect that my ISP mail
server
> has been hosing the deal all along.........Bad, Bad, CommuniGate Pro!
> Thanks,
> Randy
>
>
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
This was the response I got from cgp-support.
Outlook Express won't even consider letting me send an email to a recipient
formed like cgp's suggestions. Their first suggestion is really stupid, if I
knew the domain name why would I want to add the IP?
*****************************
The address in "to" is never modified. But the address in the mail envelope
CAN be just "user", i.e. the @[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] can be cut off. If your
server has problems with that, use:
user@domainname@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
or even
user@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
******************************
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> CommuniGate Pro? You might want to contact cgp-support@stalker.com, and
ask
> them if they comply with address-literals as defined by RFC 2821 4.1.3
(aka
> domain-literals in RFC 822 6.2.3).
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:45
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
>
>
> Noel,
> Your mail came through just fine. I also sent an email from one james
> account to another and it worked fine. I now suspect that my ISP mail
server
> has been hosing the deal all along.........Bad, Bad, CommuniGate Pro!
> Thanks,
> Randy
>
>
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RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
I've come across at least one SMTP<->ARPA gateway which didn't, citing the rfc's recommendation that literals only ever be used as a temporary measure as a reason for not supporting them.
> CommuniGate Pro? You might want to contact
> cgp-support@stalker.com, and ask
> them if they comply with address-literals as defined by RFC 2821
> 4.1.3 (aka
> domain-literals in RFC 822 6.2.3).
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RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Randy,
CommuniGate Pro? You might want to contact cgp-support@stalker.com, and ask
them if they comply with address-literals as defined by RFC 2821 4.1.3 (aka
domain-literals in RFC 822 6.2.3).
--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:45
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Noel,
Your mail came through just fine. I also sent an email from one james
account to another and it worked fine. I now suspect that my ISP mail server
has been hosing the deal all along.........Bad, Bad, CommuniGate Pro!
Thanks,
Randy
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
Your mail came through just fine. I also sent an email from one james
account to another and it worked fine. I now suspect that my ISP mail server
has been hosing the deal all along.........Bad, Bad, CommuniGate Pro!
Thanks,
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> I am guessing that you are sending from the same machine that is the
server,
> and these mail clients are deciding to eliminate the IP address since they
> detect that it is the local host. On the other hand, I seem to recall
that
> you don't have localhost in your servernames list, so once the mail client
> somewhat inadvisedly drops the @[ip] portion of the address, the result is
> no longer valid on your server.
>
> Is that right?
>
> --- Noel
>
>
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RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Randy,
I am guessing that you are sending from the same machine that is the server,
and these mail clients are deciding to eliminate the IP address since they
detect that it is the local host. On the other hand, I seem to recall that
you don't have localhost in your servernames list, so once the mail client
somewhat inadvisedly drops the @[ip] portion of the address, the result is
no longer valid on your server.
Is that right?
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
Netscape 6.2 did the same thing..
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019
Netscape6/6.2
with SMTP AUTH on the sender recieved Auth Required error.
with SMTP AUTH off the message fell through to the ALL matcher
10/12/02 10:29:08 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
10/12/02 10:29:08 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost> OK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> The mail client sent the wrong data. You sent user@[24.240.241.4]>, but
> look what the mail client provided to james:
>
> 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
> 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost>
OK
>
> James was only given <user>, and so it added the @localhost. OK, now we
> know that james never receives the proper address. The question is why
the
> mail client didn't send the address as you provided it. What e-mail
client?
>
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
The other user is me and i have been using a different macine on the LAN.
Also haven't been using James to send the message, I've been using my isp
account......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> Outlook Express on the same machine as the server? Could be a dumb
> assumption on their part. What happens if you do it from another machine?
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:23
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
>
>
> Noel,
> I'm using Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 XP SP1
> I'm going to set up Netscape and see what happens....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
> To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:13 AM
> Subject: Sending to user@[ip] address
>
>
> > Randy,
> >
> > The mail client sent the wrong data. You sent user@[24.240.241.4]>, but
> > look what the mail client provided to james:
> >
> > 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
> > 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost>
> OK
> >
> > James was only given <user>, and so it added the @localhost. OK, now we
> > know that james never receives the proper address. The question is why
> the
> > mail client didn't send the address as you provided it. What e-mail
> client?
> >
> > --- Noel
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RE: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Randy,
Outlook Express on the same machine as the server? Could be a dumb
assumption on their part. What happens if you do it from another machine?
--- Noel
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From: JRC [mailto:postmaster@neonkiwi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:23
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Noel,
I'm using Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 XP SP1
I'm going to set up Netscape and see what happens....
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To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> The mail client sent the wrong data. You sent user@[24.240.241.4]>, but
> look what the mail client provided to james:
>
> 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
> 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost>
OK
>
> James was only given <user>, and so it added the @localhost. OK, now we
> know that james never receives the proper address. The question is why
the
> mail client didn't send the address as you provided it. What e-mail
client?
>
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Re: Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
I'm using Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 XP SP1
I'm going to set up Netscape and see what happens....
----- Original Message -----
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To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: Sending to user@[ip] address
> Randy,
>
> The mail client sent the wrong data. You sent user@[24.240.241.4]>, but
> look what the mail client provided to james:
>
> 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
> 10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost>
OK
>
> James was only given <user>, and so it added the @localhost. OK, now we
> know that james never receives the proper address. The question is why
the
> mail client didn't send the address as you provided it. What e-mail
client?
>
> --- Noel
>
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Sending to user@[ip] address
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Randy,
The mail client sent the wrong data. You sent user@[24.240.241.4]>, but
look what the mail client provided to james:
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost> OK
James was only given <user>, and so it added the @localhost. OK, now we
know that james never receives the proper address. The question is why the
mail client didn't send the address as you provided it. What e-mail client?
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Good morning,
The message bounced again. James sent this info back to the sender:
Message details:
Subject: test
Sent date: Tue Dec 10 09:43:42 CST 2002
To: <user@[24.240.241.4]>
Size (in bytes): 725
this is the smtp log with debug on: is there a missing ( ?
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Retrieving a
org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler from the pool
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Getting SMTPHandler from pool.
10/12/02 09:44:17 INFO smtpserver: Connection from
dc-mx13.cluster1.charter.net (209.225.8.23)
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 220 domain.com SMTP Server (JAMES
SMTP Server 2.1a1-cvs) ready Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:44:17 -0600 (CST)
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling start()
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Watchdog default Worker #15 has time to
sleep 360000
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: HELO
dc-mx13.cluster1.charter.net
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 domain.com Hello
dc-mx13.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx13.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.23])
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling reset() default Worker #15
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: MAIL
FROM:<ed...@charter.net>
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Sender <ed...@charter.net> OK
10/12/02 09:44:17 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling reset() default Worker #15
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: RCPT TO:<user>
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Recipient <us...@localhost> OK
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling reset() default Worker #15
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: DATA
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 354 Ok Send data ending with
<CRLF>.<CRLF>
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Using SizeLimitedInputStream with max
message size: 10240000
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Successfully spooled
mail )Mail1039535058511-1 from edited@charter.net for [user@localhost]
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 250 Message received
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling reset() default Worker #15
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Command received: QUIT
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Sent: 221 domain.com Service closing
transmission channel
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling stop() default Worker #15
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Closing socket.
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Calling disposeWatchdog() default Worker
#15
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Returning SMTPHandler to pool.
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Watchdog default Worker #15 is exiting
run().
10/12/02 09:44:18 DEBUG smtpserver: Returning a
org.apache.james.smtpserver.SMTPHandler to the pool
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To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: RE: James installation and launch
> > nope. the message was sent to user@[ipaddy] and shows up in the
> > log as user@localhost
> > 09/12/02 13:36:59 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail
> > from edited@charter.net for [user@localhost]
>
> How did yours turn into localhost? Is your mail client futzing with the
> outgoing e-mail address? If you change the log setting from INFO to DEBUG
> for SMTPSERVER, what do you for the actual RCPT TO command?
>
> If you recall log entry, it showed up as:
>
> 09/12/02 13:48:37 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
> noel@some-broadband-company.com for [noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]]
>
> --- Noel
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> nope. the message was sent to user@[ipaddy] and shows up in the
> log as user@localhost
> 09/12/02 13:36:59 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail
> from edited@charter.net for [user@localhost]
How did yours turn into localhost? Is your mail client futzing with the
outgoing e-mail address? If you change the log setting from INFO to DEBUG
for SMTPSERVER, what do you for the actual RCPT TO command?
If you recall log entry, it showed up as:
09/12/02 13:48:37 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
noel@some-broadband-company.com for [noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]]
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
nope. the message was sent to user@[ipaddy] and shows up in the log as
user@localhost
09/12/02 13:36:58 INFO smtpserver: Connection from
dc-mx01.cluster1.charter.net (209.225.8.11)
09/12/02 13:36:59 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
edited@charter.net for [user@localhost]
Danny wrote:
are the [] around the ip in the log, cos they are relevant as far as James
is concerned
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
> Sent: 10 December 2002 00:53
> To: James Users List
> Subject: RE: James installation and launch
>
>
> Well, I *am* scratching my head. I just ran the same test with
> Peter on his
> public James server, which runs on Windows, JDK 1.4.0_1, and with
> SMTP AUTH,
> so it is the same as yours. And it worked perfectly.
>
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
are the [] around the ip in the log, cos they are relevant as far as James is concerned
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
> Sent: 10 December 2002 00:53
> To: James Users List
> Subject: RE: James installation and launch
>
>
> Well, I *am* scratching my head. I just ran the same test with
> Peter on his
> public James server, which runs on Windows, JDK 1.4.0_1, and with
> SMTP AUTH,
> so it is the same as yours. And it worked perfectly.
>
> --- Noel
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Well, I *am* scratching my head. I just ran the same test with Peter on his
public James server, which runs on Windows, JDK 1.4.0_1, and with SMTP AUTH,
so it is the same as yours. And it worked perfectly.
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
that's interesting. the correct ip does show up in the james.log
oh well, doesn't seem like a major problem so you guys shouldn't spend any
time scratching yer heads over it.
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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: James installation and launch
> > is this the problem? actually it isn't a problem, more of a curiosity.
> > <servernames autodetect="false" autodetectIP="true">
> > or......do i need....
> > <servername>xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx</servername> ?
>
> If autodetectIP is not set to false, james should be getting those IP
> addresses and inserting them for you. That is what it does. Eventually,
> james dumps the whole list, which is where the "Handling mail for: "
> messages from in james.log.
>
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> is this the problem? actually it isn't a problem, more of a curiosity.
> <servernames autodetect="false" autodetectIP="true">
> or......do i need....
> <servername>xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx</servername> ?
If autodetectIP is not set to false, james should be getting those IP
addresses and inserting them for you. That is what it does. Eventually,
james dumps the whole list, which is where the "Handling mail for: "
messages from in james.log.
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
is this the problem? actually it isn't a problem, more of a curiosity.
<servernames autodetect="false" autodetectIP="true">
should autodetect="true"?
or.......is this caused by the lack of......
<servername>localhost</servername> ?
or......do i need....
<servername>xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx</servername> ?
i don't think james is broken, really. i'm just curious.
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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: James installation and launch
> The message should have been caught by RecipientIsLocal or HostIsLocal.
> This explains why you get the 530 reject; the IP address simply isn't
being
> recognized as a local server. So now we are back to the question of WHY
> NOT?
>
> Basically, this is the code we care about:
>
> public boolean isLocalServer( final String serverName ) {
> return serverNames.contains(serverName.toLowerCase(Locale.US));
> }
>
> That should be called, and the IP address should be present in the
> serverNames collection. We know the contents of that collection because
of
> the following code:
>
> for (Iterator i = serverNames.iterator(); i.hasNext(); ) {
> getLogger().info("Handling mail for: " + i.next());
> }
>
> And you did say that the IP address is showing up.
>
> The same code is working just fine for me. :-\
>
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
The message should have been caught by RecipientIsLocal or HostIsLocal.
This explains why you get the 530 reject; the IP address simply isn't being
recognized as a local server. So now we are back to the question of WHY
NOT?
Basically, this is the code we care about:
public boolean isLocalServer( final String serverName ) {
return serverNames.contains(serverName.toLowerCase(Locale.US));
}
That should be called, and the IP address should be present in the
serverNames collection. We know the contents of that collection because of
the following code:
for (Iterator i = serverNames.iterator(); i.hasNext(); ) {
getLogger().info("Handling mail for: " + i.next());
}
And you did say that the IP address is showing up.
The same code is working just fine for me. :-\
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
I have a modified transport processor. with smtp auth off the email sent to
[myipaddress] made it to the bottom of the processor. the email failed at
RecipientIsLocal, HostIsLocal, and at my modified mailet. the message was
finally caught at the "all" matcher.
<mailet match="RecipientIsLocal" class="LocalDelivery"/>
<mailet match="HostIsLocal" class="ToProcessor">
<processor>error</processor>
</mailet>
<mailet match="stuff that i don't want public"
class="RemoteDelivery">
<outgoing> file://var/mail/outgoing/ </outgoing>
<delayTime> 21600000 </delayTime>
<maxRetries> 5 </maxRetries>
</mailet>
<mailet match="All" class="ToProcessor">
<processor> spam </processor>
<notice> james sent this notice to sender </notice>
</mailet>
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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: James installation and launch
> > the behavior did change [with SMTP AUTH off]. James accepted
> > the mail and sent it to spam.
>
> Sent it as spam? How did it detect that the e-mail was spam? Was there a
> positive match for spam, or did it fail to detect the user as local? The
> default configuration for James is wrong, IMO; it assumes that an
incorrect
> request to relay is spam instead of an error. I change that in my config.
> Probably several times a week we catch an e-mail at domain.org that should
> have been addressed to domain.com.
>
> > I do have helloName autodetect="false". would this be the
> > cause of this very minor issue?
>
> Should have no impact. I have the same thing in mine. The only setting
> that would effect it is in the <servernames> element, and James did say
that
> it was listening for that IP address, which means that it should have
known
> the IP as a local host.
>
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> the behavior did change [with SMTP AUTH off]. James accepted
> the mail and sent it to spam.
Sent it as spam? How did it detect that the e-mail was spam? Was there a
positive match for spam, or did it fail to detect the user as local? The
default configuration for James is wrong, IMO; it assumes that an incorrect
request to relay is spam instead of an error. I change that in my config.
Probably several times a week we catch an e-mail at domain.org that should
have been addressed to domain.com.
> I do have helloName autodetect="false". would this be the
> cause of this very minor issue?
Should have no impact. I have the same thing in mine. The only setting
that would effect it is in the <servernames> element, and James did say that
it was listening for that IP address, which means that it should have known
the IP as a local host.
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
Noel,
the behavior did change. James accepted the mail and sent it to spam.
James then bounced a message back to the sender that is generated by a
matcher i created to prevent spoofing with VerifyIdentity turned off. James
seems to be relaying to him/her self........hmmm
I do have helloName autodetect="false". would this be the cause of this very
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Randy,
> I've never been able to send email to user@[24.240.241.4]
Really? That is odd. I just did it. I sent e-mail to
noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz] using the IP address of our public server. The log
entry says:
09/12/02 13:48:37 INFO smtpserver: Successfully spooled mail from
noel@some-broadband-company.com for [noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]]
I just retrieved that e-mail from the server. Here is the header:
Received: from xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ([11.22.33.44])
by mail.devtech.com (JAMES SMTP Server 2.1a1-cvs) with SMTP ID 426
for <noel@[www.xxx.yyy.zzz]>;
Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:48:36 -0500 (EST)
The addresses are munged just to prevent annoying spam scrappers.
> James: Handling mail for: 24.240.241.4
Well, that looks right.
> host 24.240.241.4 says: 530 Authentication Required
Hmmm ... I don't run with SMTP AUTH. The code is:
String toDomain = recipientAddress.getHost();
if (!theConfigData.getMailServer().isLocalServer(toDomain))
{ ... 530 ...}
which is the same code we use in RecipientIsLocal:
return mailetContext.isLocalServer(recipient.getHost())
&& mailetContext.isLocalUser(recipient.getUser());
and, the latter just worked for me.
Can you test your configuration without SMTP AUTH, and see if the behavior
changes?
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Re: James installation and launch
Posted by JRC <po...@neonkiwi.com>.
james2.1a1-cvs
j2re1.4.0_01
I've never been able to send email to user@[24.240.241.4] . I always get a
bounce like:
Failed to deliver to '<user@[24.240.241.4]>'
SMTP module(domain [24.240.241.4]) reports:
host 24.240.241.4 says:
530 Authentication Required
Even though the james.log says:
JAMES init...
James: Handling mail for: 24.240.241.4
> > and also I can't send mail from outside (from anotheruser@provider.com
> > to user@[myIPaddress]).
>
> What version of James? That should work in James v2.1, but did not work
in
> earlier versions without additional configuration.
>
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RE: James installation and launch
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> i can send a mail from user@localhost to user@localhost but
> can't manage to send mail outside (i.e. from user@localhost
> to anotheruser@provider.com)
see: http://jakarta.apache.org/james/FAQ.html#3
You need to modify config.xml. As shipped, James will only relay e-mail
that originates from localhost.
> and also I can't send mail from outside (from anotheruser@provider.com
> to user@[myIPaddress]).
What version of James? That should work in James v2.1, but did not work in
earlier versions without additional configuration.
--- Noel
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