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Posted to dev@geode.apache.org by Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io> on 2017/03/08 22:08:04 UTC
[VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Hi all,
I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as far
as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
was introduced.
The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
(think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready for
general use.
What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter? Should
it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released when
it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
already?
Thanks,
Galen
[1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html
[2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Wayne Lund <wl...@pivotal.io>.
+1. Good to know. I was just talking to a potential customer this morning that’s intent on replacing voldemort with an IMDG and wanting to merge whatever solution with their current Redis use cases. If its not ready I want to make sure I’m not giving bad information.
Wayne Lund
Advisory Platform Architect
916.296.1893
wlund@pivotal.io
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> +1 to marking it experimental now
>
> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking changes to it if we need to.
>
> --
> Mike Stolz
> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <gosullivan@pivotal.io <ma...@pivotal.io>> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as far as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag was introduced.
>
> The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready for general use.
>
> What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter? Should it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released when it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it already?
>
> Thanks,
> Galen
>
> [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html <http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html>
> [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473>
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Gregory Chase <gc...@pivotal.io>.
Based on some other recent discussions about the Redis adaptor, I would
agree this makes sense.
I don't believe its usage has been well tested or proven yet by its
intended audience.
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>
wrote:
> I'm going to go ahead and do this tomorrow if there are no objections.
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> +1 for marking it experimental and going ahead with changing it.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to marking it experimental now
>>>
>>> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make
>>> breaking
>>> changes to it if we need to.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Stolz
>>> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
>>> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <
>>> gosullivan@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
>>> > functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
>>> > mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and
>>> as far
>>> > as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
>>> > Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental
>>> tag
>>> > was introduced.
>>> >
>>> > The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
>>> > (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are
>>> some
>>> > bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really
>>> ready for
>>> > general use.
>>> >
>>> > What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter?
>>> Should
>>> > it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released
>>> when
>>> > it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
>>> > already?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Galen
>>> >
>>> > [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_ada
>>> pter.html
>>> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Greg Chase
Product team
http://www.pivotal.io/big-data
Pivotal Software
http://www.pivotal.io/
650-215-0477
@GregChase
Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Gregory Chase <gc...@pivotal.io>.
Based on some other recent discussions about the Redis adaptor, I would
agree this makes sense.
I don't believe its usage has been well tested or proven yet by its
intended audience.
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>
wrote:
> I'm going to go ahead and do this tomorrow if there are no objections.
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> +1 for marking it experimental and going ahead with changing it.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to marking it experimental now
>>>
>>> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make
>>> breaking
>>> changes to it if we need to.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Stolz
>>> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
>>> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <
>>> gosullivan@pivotal.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
>>> > functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
>>> > mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and
>>> as far
>>> > as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
>>> > Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental
>>> tag
>>> > was introduced.
>>> >
>>> > The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
>>> > (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are
>>> some
>>> > bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really
>>> ready for
>>> > general use.
>>> >
>>> > What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter?
>>> Should
>>> > it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released
>>> when
>>> > it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
>>> > already?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Galen
>>> >
>>> > [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_ada
>>> pter.html
>>> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Greg Chase
Product team
http://www.pivotal.io/big-data
Pivotal Software
http://www.pivotal.io/
650-215-0477
@GregChase
Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>.
I'm going to go ahead and do this tomorrow if there are no objections.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> +1 for marking it experimental and going ahead with changing it.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> +1 to marking it experimental now
>>
>> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking
>> changes to it if we need to.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Stolz
>> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
>> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <gosullivan@pivotal.io
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
>> > functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
>> > mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as
>> far
>> > as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
>> > Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
>> > was introduced.
>> >
>> > The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
>> > (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
>> > bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready
>> for
>> > general use.
>> >
>> > What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter?
>> Should
>> > it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released
>> when
>> > it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
>> > already?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Galen
>> >
>> > [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_ada
>> pter.html
>> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>.
I'm going to go ahead and do this tomorrow if there are no objections.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> +1 for marking it experimental and going ahead with changing it.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
>> +1 to marking it experimental now
>>
>> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking
>> changes to it if we need to.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Stolz
>> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
>> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <gosullivan@pivotal.io
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
>> > functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
>> > mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as
>> far
>> > as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
>> > Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
>> > was introduced.
>> >
>> > The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
>> > (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
>> > bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready
>> for
>> > general use.
>> >
>> > What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter?
>> Should
>> > it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released
>> when
>> > it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
>> > already?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Galen
>> >
>> > [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_ada
>> pter.html
>> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io>.
+1 for marking it experimental and going ahead with changing it.
-Dan
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> +1 to marking it experimental now
>
> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking
> changes to it if we need to.
>
> --
> Mike Stolz
> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
> > functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
> > mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as
> far
> > as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
> > Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
> > was introduced.
> >
> > The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
> > (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
> > bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready
> for
> > general use.
> >
> > What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter?
> Should
> > it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released
> when
> > it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
> > already?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Galen
> >
> > [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_
> adapter.html
> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Dan Smith <ds...@pivotal.io>.
+1 for marking it experimental and going ahead with changing it.
-Dan
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> +1 to marking it experimental now
>
> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking
> changes to it if we need to.
>
> --
> Mike Stolz
> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
> > functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
> > mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as
> far
> > as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
> > Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
> > was introduced.
> >
> > The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
> > (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
> > bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready
> for
> > general use.
> >
> > What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter?
> Should
> > it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released
> when
> > it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
> > already?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Galen
> >
> > [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_
> adapter.html
> > [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Wayne Lund <wl...@pivotal.io>.
+1. Good to know. I was just talking to a potential customer this morning that’s intent on replacing voldemort with an IMDG and wanting to merge whatever solution with their current Redis use cases. If its not ready I want to make sure I’m not giving bad information.
Wayne Lund
Advisory Platform Architect
916.296.1893
wlund@pivotal.io
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io> wrote:
>
> +1 to marking it experimental now
>
> Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking changes to it if we need to.
>
> --
> Mike Stolz
> Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
> Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <gosullivan@pivotal.io <ma...@pivotal.io>> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as far as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag was introduced.
>
> The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready for general use.
>
> What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter? Should it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released when it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it already?
>
> Thanks,
> Galen
>
> [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html <http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html>
> [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473>
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io>.
+1 to marking it experimental now
Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking
changes to it if we need to.
--
Mike Stolz
Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
> functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
> mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as far
> as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
> Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
> was introduced.
>
> The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
> (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
> bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready for
> general use.
>
> What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter? Should
> it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released when
> it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
> already?
>
> Thanks,
> Galen
>
> [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html
> [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
>
Re: [VOTE] Marking Redis Adapter as Experimental
Posted by Michael Stolz <ms...@pivotal.io>.
+1 to marking it experimental now
Once we do that I think it will be fine for the community to make breaking
changes to it if we need to.
--
Mike Stolz
Principal Engineer, GemFire Product Manager
Mobile: +1-631-835-4771
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Galen M O'Sullivan <go...@pivotal.io>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think that we should mark the Redis adapter as experimental. This
> functionality comes from the initial code grant from GemFire. It is
> mentioned in the "Experimental" section of the GemFire docs [1], and as far
> as I can tell, the only reason it hasn't been marked as experimental in
> Geode is because no one put the annotation on when the @Experimental tag
> was introduced.
>
> The Redis adapter's performance on collection operations is pretty bad
> (think 1% of Redis on a single-server configuration), and there are some
> bugs outstanding (for example, [2]), so I don't think it's really ready for
> general use.
>
> What do you all think? Is anyone out there using the Redis adapter? Should
> it be considered breaking to change it just because it's been released when
> it wasn't marked experimental? Should we just go ahead and change it
> already?
>
> Thanks,
> Galen
>
> [1]: http://gemfire.docs.pivotal.io/geode/tools_modules/redis_adapter.html
> [2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-2473
>