Re: [users@httpd] Setting up a virtual host on a stand alone Windows 2000 machine

[Leif W <wa...@usa.net>]

Well, I didn't intend to start some flame war.  I just hate Windows 
because it's nowhere as simple and elegant and robust and easy to use 
and powerfull and configurable and straightforward as Linux has been for 
me personally and many others over the last decade.  :p  But in any 
case, simply having and using a TCP/IP stack to connect to some networks 
often necessitates usage of such a tool as "host" for troubleshooting, 
regardless if the company sells it as a server or a client machine.  And 
furthermore, running a single program which is available on other 
operating systems with similar syntax for a specific task takes much 
lower learning curve and much less time than reinventing the wheel in a 
language, wether or not I pick one with which I am familiar, and then 
integrating into an OS'es proprietary object API with which I am not at 
all familiar and may not even be available if I didn't get a "server" 
version.

However, in any case, thanks for the many references.  That could be 
used to develop my own toolkit to make life more bearable when working 
with Windows.  There are some networking things I was wondering how to 
frob and maybe can do that with some research.  But still, for another 
person to make use of such a toolkit, they would have to read many 
documents and either reinvent the wheel or download some scripts that 
others wrote, which intentionally or unintentionally may or may not be 
malicious or broken or unportable between Windows versions and service 
packs.  In the end the results of all that effort applies only to 
Windows and nothing else in the world.  ;-)

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff White" <jl...@earthlink.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: 2004 December 30 Thursday 14:31
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Setting up a virtual host on a stand alone 
Windows 2000 machine


>
> From: Posta Kutusu
>
>> I have Apache 2 running on a
>> stand alone machine operating
>> on Windows 2000 professional
>
> From: "Leif W"
>
>>
>> To query the DNS directly without
>> getting into the verbose ping, is to
>> use the host.exe program.  This
>> program along with many other basic
>> networking programs widely used in
>> other OSes which connect to the
>> internet have never been included
>> with any Microsoft OS product, up to
>> and including XP SP2.
>
> Really...
>
> Notice you are "trying" to run
> "servers" on non server OS
> systems and then complaining
> about a lack of server tools.
>
> Anyway, about this lack of tools
> for DNS (and for almost _any_
> Windows type of actions), is
> built-in VBScript usage a simple
> enough "tool"?
>
> Here is just one example (just what Apache
> on Windows admins need) of using VBScript,
> WSH, and WMI in Scripting.
>
> September 2004
>
> <quote>
>
> Windows scripting technologies
> enable system administrators to
> automate many common tasks involved
> in managing TCP/IP network clients.
> This paper discusses scripting
> techniques and shows scripting
> examples for:
>
> Retrieving TCP/IP client settings.
> Working with remote hosts.
> Configuring DHCP and static IP addresses.
> Managing DNS client settings.
> Working with NetBIOS and WINS.
>
> Also included are scenarios that
> combine basic techniques to create
> sample solutions for more complex
> networking tasks.
>
> </quote>
>
> Automating TCP/IP Networking on Clients
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/topics/networking/default.mspx
>
> When using simple built-in VBScript
> scripts (or the scripting language of
> one's desire)
>
> <quote>
>
> The scripts linked to from this page
> were all written using VBScript. For
> sample scripts written in other scripting
> languages (including Perl, Python, Kixtart,
> Object REXX, and JScript), please see the
> Scripting Languages home page.
>
> </quote>
>
> Scripting Languages Available in the Script Center
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/language.mspx
>
> Anyway back to VBScript with the
> simple built-in WMI objects, in what
> is commonly called Windows Scripting,
> then there are many DNS "type queries",
> simply avaliable for all.
>
> Scripts that can:
>
> Enabling DNS on All Network Adapters
> Determining a Computer's IP Address
> Configuring Dynamic DNS Registration for a Network Adapter
> Enumerating Host Address (A) DNS Records
> Enumerating Canonical Name (CNAME) DNS Records
> List Canonical Name DNS Records
> List Host Address DNS Records
> List Host Information DNS Records
> List IPv6 Address DNS Records
> List ISDN DNS Records
>
> There many more VBScript DNS/Networking
> scripts plus Windows Scripts for almost
> any Windows actions at the Microsoft
> Windows Script Center. There is a whole
> section of scripts called Networking with
> sub sections:
>
> Client-Side Management
>
> And
>
> DNS Server
>
> Microsoft TechNet: Script Center
> Networking Sample Scripts
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/network/default.mspx
>
> Yep, built-in objects used in
> simple Windows VBScript
> scripts that are simple
> to run.  No tools huh?  :)
>
> Running Your Scripts
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/script56/html/wsRunningYourScripts.asp
>
> Browse the script Repository
> (over 2000 scripts)
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/default.mspx
>
> There are plenty of networking tools
> from Microsoft (and third parties),
> but these above scripts let's one learn
> more about TCP/IP and their Apache
> on Windows server's usage of TCP/IP,
> before one blindly runs the many exe
> type tools.  :)
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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