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Posted to mod_python-dev@quetz.apache.org by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org> on 2007/05/16 23:06:14 UTC
TLP Name
So I think we've got (in no particular order):
PythonScript
Pythonidae
PyPache
pythonalia
Quetzalcoatl
Asphyxia
Scales
Pythonistas
PigeonPy
Pungi
Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*) please
respond with the one they like most and I will compile the results?
Thanks!
Grisha
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Ulf Wostner <wo...@cyberprof.com>.
+1 for PyPache
On Wed May 16 2007 02:06 pm Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>
> PythonScript
> Pythonidae
> PyPache
> pythonalia
> Quetzalcoatl
> Asphyxia
> Scales
> Pythonistas
> PigeonPy
> Pungi
>
> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*) please
> respond with the one they like most and I will compile the results?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Grisha
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Graham Dumpleton <gr...@gmail.com>.
On 18/05/07, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 May 2007, Jim Gallacher wrote:
>
> > Quetzalcoatl is still my sentimental favourite.
> >
> > Perhaps I'm overly concerned with potential search problems for
> > Quetzalcoatl, considering that Google is pretty good at figuring out
> > spelling errors. Also the mod_python name will not disappear, as it'll
> > still be used as a subproject name, so people can find us that way.
>
> Yep. I don't think the TLP itself will be searched for, it's always going
> to be subprojects, and most likely over time a search for "Apache Python"
> will take you there (like it does for mod_python currently). And of course
> there is the spelling correction.
I'd tend to agree that the name for the TLP is really only a code name
as such and isn't going to be how people search for things. Thus as
much as it may take me a while to learn to spell Quetzalcoatl (good
thing we have cut and paste), that it is hard to spell is probably not
a problem.
Also, as for the web site URL for the TLP, I'd suggest we should be
okay still using:
http://python.apache.org
Graham
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jorey Bump <li...@joreybump.com>.
For me, it's a tie between Quetzalcoatl & Scales.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>
> PythonScript
> Pythonidae
> PyPache
> pythonalia
> Quetzalcoatl
> Asphyxia
> Scales
> Pythonistas
> PigeonPy
> Pungi
>
> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*) please
> respond with the one they like most and I will compile the results?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Grisha
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Nesan Waran <nw...@gmail.com>.
+1 Scales
Apache Scales sounds simple enough. Although it seems to be an
underdog in this competition.
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jorey Bump <li...@joreybump.com>.
+1 Quetzalcoatl
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
>
> So far PyPache seems to be the winner. Terranium is second, Quetzalcoatl
> thrid.
>
> Let's say this vote closes on Wednesday, and please send in +1's for one
> name - statements like "I like both <blank> and <blank>" are hard to
> account for.
>
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007, Clodoaldo wrote:
>
>> +1 pypache
>>
>> 2007/5/17, Daniel J. Popowich <dp...@comcast.net>:
>>>
>>> +1 on pypache
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clodoaldo Pinto Neto
>>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Nick <ni...@dd.revealed.net>.
+1 Quetzalcoatl
Re: TLP Name
Posted by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>.
Quetzalcoatl is the winner.
Grisha
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Rob Sanderson wrote:
>
>
> +1 Quetzalcoatl
>
> And ditto re pyFoo and kFoo. :)
>
> Rob
>
> On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 12:08 -0400, Jim Gallacher wrote:
>> +1 Quetzalcoatl
>>
>> I think I voted 3 times for different things, so this is my *final*
>> official vote. ;)
>>
>> I'm not a fan of pypache for the same reasons that others have stated.
>> Projects that stick py, q, k or gnu on the front of the name have always
>> bugged me.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So far PyPache seems to be the winner. Terranium is second, Quetzalcoatl
>>> thrid.
>>>
>>> Let's say this vote closes on Wednesday, and please send in +1's for one
>>> name - statements like "I like both <blank> and <blank>" are hard to
>>> account for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007, Clodoaldo wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 pypache
>>>>
>>>> 2007/5/17, Daniel J. Popowich <dp...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 on pypache
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Clodoaldo Pinto Neto
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Rob Sanderson <az...@liverpool.ac.uk>.
+1 Quetzalcoatl
And ditto re pyFoo and kFoo. :)
Rob
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 12:08 -0400, Jim Gallacher wrote:
> +1 Quetzalcoatl
>
> I think I voted 3 times for different things, so this is my *final*
> official vote. ;)
>
> I'm not a fan of pypache for the same reasons that others have stated.
> Projects that stick py, q, k or gnu on the front of the name have always
> bugged me.
>
> Jim
>
> Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
> >
> >
> > So far PyPache seems to be the winner. Terranium is second, Quetzalcoatl
> > thrid.
> >
> > Let's say this vote closes on Wednesday, and please send in +1's for one
> > name - statements like "I like both <blank> and <blank>" are hard to
> > account for.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 18 May 2007, Clodoaldo wrote:
> >
> >> +1 pypache
> >>
> >> 2007/5/17, Daniel J. Popowich <dp...@comcast.net>:
> >>>
> >>> +1 on pypache
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Clodoaldo Pinto Neto
> >>
> >
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jim Gallacher <jp...@jgassociates.ca>.
+1 Quetzalcoatl
I think I voted 3 times for different things, so this is my *final*
official vote. ;)
I'm not a fan of pypache for the same reasons that others have stated.
Projects that stick py, q, k or gnu on the front of the name have always
bugged me.
Jim
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
>
> So far PyPache seems to be the winner. Terranium is second, Quetzalcoatl
> thrid.
>
> Let's say this vote closes on Wednesday, and please send in +1's for one
> name - statements like "I like both <blank> and <blank>" are hard to
> account for.
>
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007, Clodoaldo wrote:
>
>> +1 pypache
>>
>> 2007/5/17, Daniel J. Popowich <dp...@comcast.net>:
>>>
>>> +1 on pypache
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clodoaldo Pinto Neto
>>
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Graham Dumpleton <gr...@gmail.com>.
To confirm my vote in correct format:
+1 Quetzalcoatl
Graham
On 22/05/07, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2007, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>
> > FWIW, the full name of the TLP will be: "Apache <foo>" - so "Apache
> > PyPache" doesn't roll off the tongue very well...
>
> Yes, Apache PyPache does sound a bit silly. My vote is then:
>
> +1 Quetzalcoatl
>
> Those who have not voted yet (there are hundreds of you, I know) PLEASE
> keep on sending in your votes.
>
> Grisha
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by "Daniel J. Popowich" <dp...@comcast.net>.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy writes:
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2007, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>
> > FWIW, the full name of the TLP will be: "Apache <foo>" - so "Apache
> > PyPache" doesn't roll off the tongue very well...
>
> Yes, Apache PyPache does sound a bit silly. My vote is then:
>
> +1 Quetzalcoatl
>
> Those who have not voted yet (there are hundreds of you, I know) PLEASE
> keep on sending in your votes.
Now that it has been made clear "Apache <foo>" will be the official
name, I would like to CHANGE my vote. So please REMOVE my previous +1
PyPache and:
+1 Quetzalcoatl
Dan
Re: TLP Name
Posted by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 20 May 2007, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> FWIW, the full name of the TLP will be: "Apache <foo>" - so "Apache
> PyPache" doesn't roll off the tongue very well...
Yes, Apache PyPache does sound a bit silly. My vote is then:
+1 Quetzalcoatl
Those who have not voted yet (there are hundreds of you, I know) PLEASE
keep on sending in your votes.
Grisha
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 5/19/07, Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> wrote:
> I'd also like to say I think PyPache is _bad_ name - to me, the mangling
> of "Apache" is awkward and unattractive. It's also not at all obvious
> (at least, outside of a strong ASF context) that "pache" relates to
> "apache" - therefore, without the supporting context, I'd mentally
> assign the pronunciation "pie-pash" to the name.
>
> For those reasons, I think Quetzalcoatl, Terrarium, or even Scales
> despite its lack of searchability, would be preferable over PyPache.
Ditto. The name mangling concerns me a bit. FWIW, the full name of
the TLP will be: "Apache <foo>" - so "Apache PyPache" doesn't roll off
the tongue very well... -- justin
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net>.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
>
> So far PyPache seems to be the winner. Terranium is second, Quetzalcoatl
> thrid.
>
> Let's say this vote closes on Wednesday, and please send in +1's for one
> name - statements like "I like both <blank> and <blank>" are hard to
> account for.
I'd like to vote for Quetzalcoatl.
I'd also like to say I think PyPache is _bad_ name - to me, the mangling
of "Apache" is awkward and unattractive. It's also not at all obvious
(at least, outside of a strong ASF context) that "pache" relates to
"apache" - therefore, without the supporting context, I'd mentally
assign the pronunciation "pie-pash" to the name.
For those reasons, I think Quetzalcoatl, Terrarium, or even Scales
despite its lack of searchability, would be preferable over PyPache.
Max.
Re: TLP Name
Posted by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>.
So far PyPache seems to be the winner. Terranium is second, Quetzalcoatl
thrid.
Let's say this vote closes on Wednesday, and please send in +1's for one
name - statements like "I like both <blank> and <blank>" are hard to
account for.
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Clodoaldo wrote:
> +1 pypache
>
> 2007/5/17, Daniel J. Popowich <dp...@comcast.net>:
>>
>> +1 on pypache
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Clodoaldo Pinto Neto
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Clodoaldo <cl...@gmail.com>.
+1 pypache
2007/5/17, Daniel J. Popowich <dp...@comcast.net>:
>
> +1 on pypache
>
>
--
Clodoaldo Pinto Neto
RE: TLP Name
Posted by "Daniel J. Popowich" <dp...@comcast.net>.
+1 on pypache
RE: TLP Name
Posted by Scott Sanders <ss...@stonecobra.com>.
>How about this last minute entry as a place to keep our snake?
>
>Apache Terrarium
+1 on terrarium.apache.org
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 5/16/07, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Quetzalcoatl
It's not *that* hard to say - and it's far and away my favorite.
Terrarium is the next best alternative I've seen so far.
My $.02. -- justin
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Nick <ni...@dd.revealed.net>.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
> PythonScript
> Pythonidae
> PyPache
> pythonalia
> Quetzalcoatl
> Asphyxia
> Scales
> Pythonistas
> PigeonPy
> Pungi
I liked Pungi, but there is unfortunately another project out there with
that name (https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/pungi). Quetzalcoatl
is a great Apache project name in that it's kind of related in a cultural
memory kind of way to the project ideas, but obscure enough to be completely
forgettable :) I guess Scales also falls into that category, and it gets my
vote because it's easier to spell.
Nick
Re: TLP Name
Posted by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Jim Gallacher wrote:
> Quetzalcoatl is still my sentimental favourite.
>
> Perhaps I'm overly concerned with potential search problems for
> Quetzalcoatl, considering that Google is pretty good at figuring out
> spelling errors. Also the mod_python name will not disappear, as it'll
> still be used as a subproject name, so people can find us that way.
Yep. I don't think the TLP itself will be searched for, it's always going
to be subprojects, and most likely over time a search for "Apache Python"
will take you there (like it does for mod_python currently). And of course
there is the spelling correction.
Grisha
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jim Gallacher <jp...@jgassociates.ca>.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
> I like Quetzalcoatl and PyPache.
Quetzalcoatl is still my sentimental favourite.
Perhaps I'm overly concerned with potential search problems for
Quetzalcoatl, considering that Google is pretty good at figuring out
spelling errors. Also the mod_python name will not disappear, as it'll
still be used as a subproject name, so people can find us that way.
> Terrarium seemed nice at first,
The potential for a nice logo is also much greater for Quetzalcoatl than
for Terrarium (unless you find glass boxes really interesting).
> then the ophidiophobia in me took over. (Nobody suggested ophis, btw..)
Take a look at the first Google hit for ophis. I don't think we want to
compete with that site for attention. :)
Jim
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2007, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
>>
>> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>>
>> PythonScript
>> Pythonidae
>> PyPache
>> pythonalia
>> Quetzalcoatl
>> Asphyxia
>> Scales
>> Pythonistas
>> PigeonPy
>> Pungi
>>
>> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*)
>> please respond with the one they like most and I will compile the
>> results?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Grisha
>>
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org>.
I like Quetzalcoatl and PyPache. Terrarium seemed nice at first, but then
the ophidiophobia in me took over. (Nobody suggested ophis, btw..)
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>
> PythonScript
> Pythonidae
> PyPache
> pythonalia
> Quetzalcoatl
> Asphyxia
> Scales
> Pythonistas
> PigeonPy
> Pungi
>
> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*) please
> respond with the one they like most and I will compile the results?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Grisha
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Ron Reisor <ro...@udel.edu>.
+1 Quetzalcoatl
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Computing Center/192 South Chapel Street/Newark DE, 19716
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Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jim Gallacher <jp...@jgassociates.ca>.
+1 Terrarium
I've mulled this one over and it's growing on me.
Jim
Jim Gallacher wrote:
> How about this last minute entry as a place to keep our snake?
>
> Apache Terrarium
>
> Jim
>
> Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>>
>> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>>
>> PythonScript
>> Pythonidae
>> PyPache
>> pythonalia
>> Quetzalcoatl
>> Asphyxia
>> Scales
>> Pythonistas
>> PigeonPy
>> Pungi
>>
>> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*)
>> please respond with the one they like most and I will compile the
>> results?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Grisha
>>
>
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Yann Ramin <at...@stackworks.net>.
I like this one, +1 for Terrarium
Jim Gallacher wrote:
> How about this last minute entry as a place to keep our snake?
>
> Apache Terrarium
>
> Jim
>
> Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>>
>> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>>
>> PythonScript
>> Pythonidae
>> PyPache
>> pythonalia
>> Quetzalcoatl
>> Asphyxia
>> Scales
>> Pythonistas
>> PigeonPy
>> Pungi
>>
>> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*)
>> please respond with the one they like most and I will compile the
>> results?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Grisha
>>
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jim Gallacher <jp...@jgassociates.ca>.
How about this last minute entry as a place to keep our snake?
Apache Terrarium
Jim
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>
> PythonScript
> Pythonidae
> PyPache
> pythonalia
> Quetzalcoatl
> Asphyxia
> Scales
> Pythonistas
> PigeonPy
> Pungi
>
> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*) please
> respond with the one they like most and I will compile the results?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Grisha
>
Re: TLP Name
Posted by Jim Gallacher <jp...@jgassociates.ca>.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
>
> So I think we've got (in no particular order):
>
> PythonScript
> Pythonidae
> PyPache
> pythonalia
> Quetzalcoatl
> Asphyxia
> Scales
> Pythonistas
> PigeonPy
> Pungi
>
> Would people (ANYONE here on the list, yes, that includes *YOU*) please
> respond with the one they like most and I will compile the results?
Scales +0
My biggest concern with Apache Scales is that it may be a little too
generic for searching as it is a pretty common phrase, as in "Apache
scales well...". It's even worse for searching on "scales" alone.
I like Quetzalcoatl best but I really think it would be a horrible
choice as it'll be difficult for people to remember, spell and pronounce.
Perhaps we should solicit ideas from the mod_python user list, or even
the c.l.p newsgroup?
Jim