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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com> on 2010/04/06 18:03:40 UTC
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Hi All, Reinhard,
in the Apache BeanValidation we're using JAXB without any particular
care on Licensing, being JAXB now part of the JVM.
If you agree I'd add a JAXB based component starter to serialize beans
through the SAX Pipeline in the sax module... what do you think about
it?
Have a nice evening,
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
<si...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank a lot Reinhard,
> I'll check the projects you mentioned!!!
> Have anice day :)
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>> Hi all guys,
>>> even if a little late, I noticed an old email[1] in the users ML where
>>> one of C3 users was asking us how to integrate a JAXB marshaller into
>>> C3.
>>> After provided the hint, I suggested him to send a patch but at the
>>> same time I don't know if it could be applied because of the
>>> licensing: on the JAXB documentation I'm reading is reported that.
>>>
>>> * "JAXB is a redistributable component of the JWSDP" that's covered
>>> by the JWSDP License[3]
>>> * "Parts of the JAXP software bundled with JAXB are covered by the
>>> Apache License and the W3C License"
>>>
>>> I'm not a lawyer and honestly not expert about licenses: do you have
>>> any info that confirm we can/can't add JAXB in C3?
>>>
>>> Also Javolution[4] contains a nice and fast XML marshaller[5], but
>>> Javolution is released under the BSD[6] License. Are we allowed to
>>> integrate Javolution in C3?
>>
>> I've never used JAXB, but I found http://camel.apache.org/jaxb.html
>> which says that JAXB is part of Java 6.
>>
>> In order to remain Java 5 compliant, we have to add an optional JAXB
>> dependency. Maybe Apache WS, CXF or Geronimo offer an AL 2.0 complient
>> implementation or you could at least find out how they provide JAXB support.
>>
>> --
>> Reinhard Pötz Managing Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
>> http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/
>>
>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi Reinhard!
Thanks a lot, very appreciated! :)
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> While reviewing your commit, I've already done the necessary changes.
>
> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Hi Reinhard!
>> OK, I'll take care about it during the lunchtime, don't worry!!!
>> All the best,
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I forgot to mention another place where we have to mentation the
>>> inclusion of CDDL licensed stuff: The cocoon-all module creates the
>>> distribution that contains all Cocoon modules, of course also
>>> cocoon-optional.
>>>
>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>> Thanks to you, very appreciated! :)
>>>> See you,
>>>> Simo
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all, Reinhard,
>>>>>> I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
>>>>>> you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
>>>>>> Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
>>>>>> Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
>>>>> Looks good to me, thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>>>>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>>
>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org>.
While reviewing your commit, I've already done the necessary changes.
Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi Reinhard!
> OK, I'll take care about it during the lunchtime, don't worry!!!
> All the best,
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I forgot to mention another place where we have to mentation the
>> inclusion of CDDL licensed stuff: The cocoon-all module creates the
>> distribution that contains all Cocoon modules, of course also
>> cocoon-optional.
>>
>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>> Thanks to you, very appreciated! :)
>>> See you,
>>> Simo
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>> Hi all, Reinhard,
>>>>> I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
>>>>> you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
>>>>> Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
>>>>> Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
>>>> Looks good to me, thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>>>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>>>
>>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>
>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>
--
Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
________________________________________________________________________
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi Reinhard!
OK, I'll take care about it during the lunchtime, don't worry!!!
All the best,
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> I forgot to mention another place where we have to mentation the
> inclusion of CDDL licensed stuff: The cocoon-all module creates the
> distribution that contains all Cocoon modules, of course also
> cocoon-optional.
>
> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Thanks to you, very appreciated! :)
>> See you,
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>> Hi all, Reinhard,
>>>> I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
>>>> you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
>>>> Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
>>>> Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
>>> Looks good to me, thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>>
>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org>.
I forgot to mention another place where we have to mentation the
inclusion of CDDL licensed stuff: The cocoon-all module creates the
distribution that contains all Cocoon modules, of course also
cocoon-optional.
Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Thanks to you, very appreciated! :)
> See you,
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>> Hi all, Reinhard,
>>> I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
>>> you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
>>> Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
>>> Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
>> Looks good to me, thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>
>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>
--
Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
________________________________________________________________________
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Thanks to you, very appreciated! :)
See you,
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Hi all, Reinhard,
>> I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
>> you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
>> Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
>> Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
>
> Looks good to me, thanks!
>
> --
> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org>.
Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi all, Reinhard,
> I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
> you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
> Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
> Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
Looks good to me, thanks!
--
Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
________________________________________________________________________
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi all, Reinhard,
I just added the JAXB generator to C3 Optionals, I'd like to ask if
you have time to review the licensing part. I followed yours and
Donald's hints, but 4 eyes are better than 2 :P
Thanks in advance, have a nice evening,
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm not sure what is meant by "Java SE 5" level of JAXB support because
> AFAICS it doesn't come with the JRE. I guess that it means that we have
> to add a JAXB dependency to the cocoon-optional POM:
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>com.sun.xml.bind</groupId>
> <artifactId>jaxb-impl</artifactId>
> version>2.2</version>
> <optional>true</optional>
> </dependency>
>
> and
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>javax.xml</groupId>
> <artifactId>jaxb-api</artifactId>
> <version>2.1</version>
> <optional>true</optional>
> </dependency>
>
> Both are available at the central Maven repo.
>
> Since the impl is licenced under CDDL we have to add the CDDL license to
> the cocoon-optional LICENSE.txt and the mentioned third-party notice to
> the NOTICE.txt file.
>
> Reinhard
>
> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Hi Reinhard,
>> follow below what Donald Woods, from Apache Geronimo & Apache
>> BeanValidation, wrote me about JAXB Licensing, maybe could help us o
>> resolve our issue.
>> Before starting coding I'll wait for your feedbacks.
>> Have a nice evening, all the best!
>> Simo
>>
>> ---
>>
>> We've distributed JAXB in Geronimo releases, as a CDDL binary-only jar
>> (no source or jar checked into svn.) To do so, you just need to include
>> the appropriate info in the LICENSE and NOTICE files for your project.
>> See -
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/geronimo-2.1.5/LICENSE.txt
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/geronimo-2.1.5/NOTICE.txt
>>
>> BUT, if your project can use the Java SE 5 or 6 provided levels of JAXB,
>> then I strongly suggest you not provide your own. We had to include
>> different levels in Geronimo, as the Java EE spec was always one
>> generation of JAXB ahead of the Java SE spec....
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) LICENSE - third-party licenses after the ASL 2.0 text -
>> =========================================================================
>> == Sun CDDL License ==
>> == JAXB-API, JAXB, JAXWS, JSTL, SAAJ ==
>> =========================================================================
>>
>> COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION LICENSE (CDDL) Version 1.0
>> <license text here....>
>>
>>
>> 2) NOTICE - third-party required notices -
>>
>> . . .
>> This product includes/uses software, Java Architecture for XML Binding
>> (JAXB API),
>> developed by Sun Microsystems (http://www.sun.com/)
>> License: COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION LICENSE (CDDL) Version 1.0
>> (http://www.sun.com/cddl/cddl.html)
>> . . .
>> =========================================================================
>> == Sun CDDL Notice ==
>> =========================================================================
>>
>> This product includes software developed for the JAXB Reference
>> Implementation project. (https://jaxb.dev.java.net/)
>>
>> This product includes software developed for Java API for XML Web Services
>> project (JAX-WS) (https://jax-ws.dev.java.net/)
>>
>> This product includes software developed for the Java Server Pages Tag
>> Library project (https://jstl.dev.java.net/)
>>
>> This product includes software developed for SOAP with Attachments
>> API for Java (SAAJ). The software is available from the GlassFish project
>> (https://saaj.dev.java.net/)
>>
>>
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>> Hi All, Reinhard,
>>>> in the Apache BeanValidation we're using JAXB without any particular
>>>> care on Licensing, being JAXB now part of the JVM.
>>>> If you agree I'd add a JAXB based component starter to serialize beans
>>>> through the SAX Pipeline in the sax module... what do you think about
>>>> it?
>>> Hi Simone,
>>>
>>> isn't it a question of what JVM version we want to target? IIUC JAXB is
>>> part of Java 6 but for Java 5 you have to add external libraries. Since
>>> Cocoon 3 should be Java 5 compatible, we don't come around this problem.
>>>
>>> Reinhard
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>>> <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thank a lot Reinhard,
>>>>> I'll check the projects you mentioned!!!
>>>>> Have anice day :)
>>>>> Simo
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>>>>> even if a little late, I noticed an old email[1] in the users ML where
>>>>>>> one of C3 users was asking us how to integrate a JAXB marshaller into
>>>>>>> C3.
>>>>>>> After provided the hint, I suggested him to send a patch but at the
>>>>>>> same time I don't know if it could be applied because of the
>>>>>>> licensing: on the JAXB documentation I'm reading is reported that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * "JAXB is a redistributable component of the JWSDP" that's covered
>>>>>>> by the JWSDP License[3]
>>>>>>> * "Parts of the JAXP software bundled with JAXB are covered by the
>>>>>>> Apache License and the W3C License"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not a lawyer and honestly not expert about licenses: do you have
>>>>>>> any info that confirm we can/can't add JAXB in C3?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also Javolution[4] contains a nice and fast XML marshaller[5], but
>>>>>>> Javolution is released under the BSD[6] License. Are we allowed to
>>>>>>> integrate Javolution in C3?
>>>>>> I've never used JAXB, but I found http://camel.apache.org/jaxb.html
>>>>>> which says that JAXB is part of Java 6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to remain Java 5 compliant, we have to add an optional JAXB
>>>>>> dependency. Maybe Apache WS, CXF or Geronimo offer an AL 2.0 complient
>>>>>> implementation or you could at least find out how they provide JAXB support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Reinhard Pötz Managing Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
>>>>>> http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>>
>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org>.
I'm not sure what is meant by "Java SE 5" level of JAXB support because
AFAICS it doesn't come with the JRE. I guess that it means that we have
to add a JAXB dependency to the cocoon-optional POM:
<dependency>
<groupId>com.sun.xml.bind</groupId>
<artifactId>jaxb-impl</artifactId>
version>2.2</version>
<optional>true</optional>
</dependency>
and
<dependency>
<groupId>javax.xml</groupId>
<artifactId>jaxb-api</artifactId>
<version>2.1</version>
<optional>true</optional>
</dependency>
Both are available at the central Maven repo.
Since the impl is licenced under CDDL we have to add the CDDL license to
the cocoon-optional LICENSE.txt and the mentioned third-party notice to
the NOTICE.txt file.
Reinhard
Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi Reinhard,
> follow below what Donald Woods, from Apache Geronimo & Apache
> BeanValidation, wrote me about JAXB Licensing, maybe could help us o
> resolve our issue.
> Before starting coding I'll wait for your feedbacks.
> Have a nice evening, all the best!
> Simo
>
> ---
>
> We've distributed JAXB in Geronimo releases, as a CDDL binary-only jar
> (no source or jar checked into svn.) To do so, you just need to include
> the appropriate info in the LICENSE and NOTICE files for your project.
> See -
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/geronimo-2.1.5/LICENSE.txt
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/geronimo-2.1.5/NOTICE.txt
>
> BUT, if your project can use the Java SE 5 or 6 provided levels of JAXB,
> then I strongly suggest you not provide your own. We had to include
> different levels in Geronimo, as the Java EE spec was always one
> generation of JAXB ahead of the Java SE spec....
>
>
>
> 1) LICENSE - third-party licenses after the ASL 2.0 text -
> =========================================================================
> == Sun CDDL License ==
> == JAXB-API, JAXB, JAXWS, JSTL, SAAJ ==
> =========================================================================
>
> COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION LICENSE (CDDL) Version 1.0
> <license text here....>
>
>
> 2) NOTICE - third-party required notices -
>
> . . .
> This product includes/uses software, Java Architecture for XML Binding
> (JAXB API),
> developed by Sun Microsystems (http://www.sun.com/)
> License: COMMON DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION LICENSE (CDDL) Version 1.0
> (http://www.sun.com/cddl/cddl.html)
> . . .
> =========================================================================
> == Sun CDDL Notice ==
> =========================================================================
>
> This product includes software developed for the JAXB Reference
> Implementation project. (https://jaxb.dev.java.net/)
>
> This product includes software developed for Java API for XML Web Services
> project (JAX-WS) (https://jax-ws.dev.java.net/)
>
> This product includes software developed for the Java Server Pages Tag
> Library project (https://jstl.dev.java.net/)
>
> This product includes software developed for SOAP with Attachments
> API for Java (SAAJ). The software is available from the GlassFish project
> (https://saaj.dev.java.net/)
>
>
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>> Hi All, Reinhard,
>>> in the Apache BeanValidation we're using JAXB without any particular
>>> care on Licensing, being JAXB now part of the JVM.
>>> If you agree I'd add a JAXB based component starter to serialize beans
>>> through the SAX Pipeline in the sax module... what do you think about
>>> it?
>> Hi Simone,
>>
>> isn't it a question of what JVM version we want to target? IIUC JAXB is
>> part of Java 6 but for Java 5 you have to add external libraries. Since
>> Cocoon 3 should be Java 5 compatible, we don't come around this problem.
>>
>> Reinhard
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>> <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thank a lot Reinhard,
>>>> I'll check the projects you mentioned!!!
>>>> Have anice day :)
>>>> Simo
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>>>> even if a little late, I noticed an old email[1] in the users ML where
>>>>>> one of C3 users was asking us how to integrate a JAXB marshaller into
>>>>>> C3.
>>>>>> After provided the hint, I suggested him to send a patch but at the
>>>>>> same time I don't know if it could be applied because of the
>>>>>> licensing: on the JAXB documentation I'm reading is reported that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * "JAXB is a redistributable component of the JWSDP" that's covered
>>>>>> by the JWSDP License[3]
>>>>>> * "Parts of the JAXP software bundled with JAXB are covered by the
>>>>>> Apache License and the W3C License"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a lawyer and honestly not expert about licenses: do you have
>>>>>> any info that confirm we can/can't add JAXB in C3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also Javolution[4] contains a nice and fast XML marshaller[5], but
>>>>>> Javolution is released under the BSD[6] License. Are we allowed to
>>>>>> integrate Javolution in C3?
>>>>> I've never used JAXB, but I found http://camel.apache.org/jaxb.html
>>>>> which says that JAXB is part of Java 6.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to remain Java 5 compliant, we have to add an optional JAXB
>>>>> dependency. Maybe Apache WS, CXF or Geronimo offer an AL 2.0 complient
>>>>> implementation or you could at least find out how they provide JAXB support.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Reinhard Pötz Managing Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
>>>>> http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/
>>>>>
>>>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
>> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>>
>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>
>
--
Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
________________________________________________________________________
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@gmail.com>.
Hi Reinhard,
follow below what Donald Woods, from Apache Geronimo & Apache
BeanValidation, wrote me about JAXB Licensing, maybe could help us o
resolve our issue.
Before starting coding I'll wait for your feedbacks.
Have a nice evening, all the best!
Simo
---
We've distributed JAXB in Geronimo releases, as a CDDL binary-only jar
(no source or jar checked into svn.) To do so, you just need to include
the appropriate info in the LICENSE and NOTICE files for your project.
See -
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/geronimo-2.1.5/LICENSE.txt
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/tags/geronimo-2.1.5/NOTICE.txt
BUT, if your project can use the Java SE 5 or 6 provided levels of JAXB,
then I strongly suggest you not provide your own. We had to include
different levels in Geronimo, as the Java EE spec was always one
generation of JAXB ahead of the Java SE spec....
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On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Hi All, Reinhard,
>> in the Apache BeanValidation we're using JAXB without any particular
>> care on Licensing, being JAXB now part of the JVM.
>> If you agree I'd add a JAXB based component starter to serialize beans
>> through the SAX Pipeline in the sax module... what do you think about
>> it?
>
> Hi Simone,
>
> isn't it a question of what JVM version we want to target? IIUC JAXB is
> part of Java 6 but for Java 5 you have to add external libraries. Since
> Cocoon 3 should be Java 5 compatible, we don't come around this problem.
>
> Reinhard
>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
>> <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thank a lot Reinhard,
>>> I'll check the projects you mentioned!!!
>>> Have anice day :)
>>> Simo
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>>> even if a little late, I noticed an old email[1] in the users ML where
>>>>> one of C3 users was asking us how to integrate a JAXB marshaller into
>>>>> C3.
>>>>> After provided the hint, I suggested him to send a patch but at the
>>>>> same time I don't know if it could be applied because of the
>>>>> licensing: on the JAXB documentation I'm reading is reported that.
>>>>>
>>>>> * "JAXB is a redistributable component of the JWSDP" that's covered
>>>>> by the JWSDP License[3]
>>>>> * "Parts of the JAXP software bundled with JAXB are covered by the
>>>>> Apache License and the W3C License"
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a lawyer and honestly not expert about licenses: do you have
>>>>> any info that confirm we can/can't add JAXB in C3?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also Javolution[4] contains a nice and fast XML marshaller[5], but
>>>>> Javolution is released under the BSD[6] License. Are we allowed to
>>>>> integrate Javolution in C3?
>>>> I've never used JAXB, but I found http://camel.apache.org/jaxb.html
>>>> which says that JAXB is part of Java 6.
>>>>
>>>> In order to remain Java 5 compliant, we have to add an optional JAXB
>>>> dependency. Maybe Apache WS, CXF or Geronimo offer an AL 2.0 complient
>>>> implementation or you could at least find out how they provide JAXB support.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Reinhard Pötz Managing Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
>>>> http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/
>>>>
>>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
> http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
>
> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
Re: Adding new components to C3 Optionals
Posted by Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org>.
Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi All, Reinhard,
> in the Apache BeanValidation we're using JAXB without any particular
> care on Licensing, being JAXB now part of the JVM.
> If you agree I'd add a JAXB based component starter to serialize beans
> through the SAX Pipeline in the sax module... what do you think about
> it?
Hi Simone,
isn't it a question of what JVM version we want to target? IIUC JAXB is
part of Java 6 but for Java 5 you have to add external libraries. Since
Cocoon 3 should be Java 5 compatible, we don't come around this problem.
Reinhard
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Simone Tripodi
> <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank a lot Reinhard,
>> I'll check the projects you mentioned!!!
>> Have anice day :)
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reinhard Pötz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Simone Tripodi wrote:
>>>> Hi all guys,
>>>> even if a little late, I noticed an old email[1] in the users ML where
>>>> one of C3 users was asking us how to integrate a JAXB marshaller into
>>>> C3.
>>>> After provided the hint, I suggested him to send a patch but at the
>>>> same time I don't know if it could be applied because of the
>>>> licensing: on the JAXB documentation I'm reading is reported that.
>>>>
>>>> * "JAXB is a redistributable component of the JWSDP" that's covered
>>>> by the JWSDP License[3]
>>>> * "Parts of the JAXP software bundled with JAXB are covered by the
>>>> Apache License and the W3C License"
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a lawyer and honestly not expert about licenses: do you have
>>>> any info that confirm we can/can't add JAXB in C3?
>>>>
>>>> Also Javolution[4] contains a nice and fast XML marshaller[5], but
>>>> Javolution is released under the BSD[6] License. Are we allowed to
>>>> integrate Javolution in C3?
>>> I've never used JAXB, but I found http://camel.apache.org/jaxb.html
>>> which says that JAXB is part of Java 6.
>>>
>>> In order to remain Java 5 compliant, we have to add an optional JAXB
>>> dependency. Maybe Apache WS, CXF or Geronimo offer an AL 2.0 complient
>>> implementation or you could at least find out how they provide JAXB support.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Reinhard Pötz Managing Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
>>> http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/
>>>
>>> Member of the Apache Software Foundation
>>> Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
>>> ________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>
--
Reinhard Pötz Founder & Managing Director, Indoqa
http://www.indoqa.com/people/reinhard-poetz.html
Member of the Apache Software Foundation
Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member reinhard@apache.org
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