RE: File Protocol using SOAP - Help Reqd.

[Brent G <su...@acm.org>]

Oh I see sorry didn't see the full thread, however if this is the case why
use soap?  Your protocol is going to be proprietary anyway, and you wouldn't
be able to leverage proven technologies in place(http). Implementing a
bi-directional system where either side can intiate the tranfer wouldn't be
much harder, except for the fact that this would require web servers on both
sides of the equation.  Though I could see the down-sides of installing a
webserver on all participating nodes especially if you have space/memory
constraints.  There was somebody on this list though looking for a small no
frills web server for an embedded environment.



-----Original Message-----
From: Neeraja [mailto:neeraja@infotects.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:32 PM
To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: RE: File Protocol using SOAP - Help Reqd.


I understand that. I have also tried that and have been successful. But the
requirement is that there would be no HTTP protocols. HTTP requires both
side, request-response. Where as in the file protocol that is needed, there
may be only the request side or both. It could be one-way.


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard_Stanford@exe.com [mailto:Richard_Stanford@exe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 3:16 PM
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But why?  This would be on the same server, very low overhead.  If you want
a
very lightweight implementation, I would recommend that you roll your own
rather
than hooking in to any of the existing (and fairly complex) server-side ones
at
any level.  If not -- why not leverage the existing ones?

-Richard




"Neeraja" <ne...@infotects.com> on 09/26/2000 05:18:21 PM

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The purpose is to avoid the usage of HTTP completely.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard_Stanford@exe.com [mailto:Richard_Stanford@exe.com]
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Rather than creating (and maintaining) a new protocol, why not create a
trivially simple file-monitor to SOAP/HTTP bridge?  That wouldn't be a big
deal
at all, and could be used with any SOAP implementation, etc, etc.

-Richard




"Neeraja" <ne...@infotects.com> on 09/26/2000 05:09:48 PM

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There are no HTTP or SMTP protocols. It is simply File protocol, though it
is somewhat similar in the aspect, there will be a listener that would be
waiting for the response in the response folder once a request has been
posted. The SMTP protocol that is used in the apache soap is using the HTTP
protocol, by the SMTPHTTP bridge.

I need to build a request and send a file containing the request to the
request folder and similarly the response is sent to the response folder.
The file protocol that is to be written, sets up the file connection for
sending and receiving a SOAP envelope via request and response folders,
respectively.

All transactions done are file based only, using the Call object
(org.apache.soap.rpc.Call).

Hope I am clear.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cory Isaacson [mailto:cisaacson@capita2.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 3:01 PM
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I'm interested in something similar. How about using the SMTP protocol?
Would that work? Its an option I'm looking at.

Cory
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:43 PM
Subject: File Protocol using SOAP - Help Reqd.


> Hi everybody,
>
> I want to create a file protocol instead of the HTTP protocol that would
> receive requests and responses and put them into request and response
> folders. Has anyone done anything of this sort before. If so, I would
> require some help.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Neeraja
>