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Posted to infrastructure-dev@apache.org by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org> on 2009/05/26 17:10:30 UTC
GMail + Community@a.o == problem
Gang,
not sure if this is the right list or not.
When I became Committer some years ago, I was told that I had to
subscribe to community@a.o with my niclas@apache.org email address.
Now, recently, when I have started to use GMail as my primary mail
client, this poses a problem. The Apache Mailing List handler (ezmlm,
I guess) insist that mail coming from GMail accounts are
hedhman@gmail.com, even the GMail is set up to support the
niclas@apache.org mail address. It seems it checks either Return-Path
or Sender headers instead of FROM, and GMail sets the previous two to
hedhman@gmail.com.
On many lists, I have gotten complaints from moderators, which
eventually allow my posts through, BUT community@a.o is set up without
moderation and instead bounce the message.
Hence, I can't post to community@apache.org. And I can imagine this
being an awfully common situation among committers, and irritations
from moderators. Is it something that could be (or is) looked into??
(I am not subscribed here.)
Cheers
--
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er
I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc
I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug
Re: GMail + Community@a.o == problem
Posted by Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com>.
El mié, 27-05-2009 a las 10:48 -0700, Luciano Resende escribió:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > El mar, 26-05-2009 a las 23:10 +0800, Niclas Hedhman escribió:
> >> Gang,
> >> not sure if this is the right list or not.
> >>
> >> When I became Committer some years ago, I was told that I had to
> >> subscribe to community@a.o with my niclas@apache.org email address.
> >>
> >> Now, recently, when I have started to use GMail as my primary mail
> >> client, this poses a problem. The Apache Mailing List handler (ezmlm,
> >> I guess) insist that mail coming from GMail accounts are
> >> hedhman@gmail.com, even the GMail is set up to support the
> >> niclas@apache.org mail address. It seems it checks either Return-Path
> >> or Sender headers instead of FROM, and GMail sets the previous two to
> >> hedhman@gmail.com.
> >> On many lists, I have gotten complaints from moderators, which
> >> eventually allow my posts through, BUT community@a.o is set up without
> >> moderation and instead bounce the message.
> >>
> >> Hence, I can't post to community@apache.org. And I can imagine this
> >> being an awfully common situation among committers, and irritations
> >> from moderators. Is it something that could be (or is) looked into??
> >>
> >
> > I'm in exactly the same situation. I commented about it a couple years n
> > IRC and members, IIRC. Without any change.
> >
>
> A workaround would be to subscribe your gmail account directly.
>
IIRC, community is special in that:
a) is not moderated
b) allows only post from apache.org addresses
I might be wrong, this is what I seem to recall from when it was
created, a loooong time ago :)
Regards
Santiago
Re: GMail + Community@a.o == problem
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A workaround would be to subscribe your gmail account directly.
Well, there are some smaller issues with that. GMail is not my forward
address either, it is niclas@hedhman.org which in turn forward to
GMail. I don't consider GMail an eternal solution/address, and want to
avoid using it at all. (If a nice mail client shows up on Mac I would
go back to having GMail only as backup)
Cheers
--
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er
I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc
I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug
Re: GMail + Community@a.o == problem
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> El mar, 26-05-2009 a las 23:10 +0800, Niclas Hedhman escribió:
>>> Gang,
>>> not sure if this is the right list or not.
>>>
>>> When I became Committer some years ago, I was told that I had to
>>> subscribe to community@a.o with my niclas@apache.org email address.
>>>
>>> Now, recently, when I have started to use GMail as my primary mail
>>> client, this poses a problem. The Apache Mailing List handler (ezmlm,
>>> I guess) insist that mail coming from GMail accounts are
>>> hedhman@gmail.com, even the GMail is set up to support the
>>> niclas@apache.org mail address. It seems it checks either Return-Path
>>> or Sender headers instead of FROM, and GMail sets the previous two to
>>> hedhman@gmail.com.
>>> On many lists, I have gotten complaints from moderators, which
>>> eventually allow my posts through, BUT community@a.o is set up without
>>> moderation and instead bounce the message.
>>>
>>> Hence, I can't post to community@apache.org. And I can imagine this
>>> being an awfully common situation among committers, and irritations
>>> from moderators. Is it something that could be (or is) looked into??
>>>
>> I'm in exactly the same situation. I commented about it a couple years n
>> IRC and members, IIRC. Without any change.
>>
>
> A workaround would be to subscribe your gmail account directly.
Or ask a moderator to add it to the allow list.
Mark
Re: GMail + Community@a.o == problem
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> El mar, 26-05-2009 a las 23:10 +0800, Niclas Hedhman escribió:
>> Gang,
>> not sure if this is the right list or not.
>>
>> When I became Committer some years ago, I was told that I had to
>> subscribe to community@a.o with my niclas@apache.org email address.
>>
>> Now, recently, when I have started to use GMail as my primary mail
>> client, this poses a problem. The Apache Mailing List handler (ezmlm,
>> I guess) insist that mail coming from GMail accounts are
>> hedhman@gmail.com, even the GMail is set up to support the
>> niclas@apache.org mail address. It seems it checks either Return-Path
>> or Sender headers instead of FROM, and GMail sets the previous two to
>> hedhman@gmail.com.
>> On many lists, I have gotten complaints from moderators, which
>> eventually allow my posts through, BUT community@a.o is set up without
>> moderation and instead bounce the message.
>>
>> Hence, I can't post to community@apache.org. And I can imagine this
>> being an awfully common situation among committers, and irritations
>> from moderators. Is it something that could be (or is) looked into??
>>
>
> I'm in exactly the same situation. I commented about it a couple years n
> IRC and members, IIRC. Without any change.
>
A workaround would be to subscribe your gmail account directly.
--
Luciano Resende
Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: GMail + Community@a.o == problem
Posted by Santiago Gala <sa...@gmail.com>.
El mar, 26-05-2009 a las 23:10 +0800, Niclas Hedhman escribió:
> Gang,
> not sure if this is the right list or not.
>
> When I became Committer some years ago, I was told that I had to
> subscribe to community@a.o with my niclas@apache.org email address.
>
> Now, recently, when I have started to use GMail as my primary mail
> client, this poses a problem. The Apache Mailing List handler (ezmlm,
> I guess) insist that mail coming from GMail accounts are
> hedhman@gmail.com, even the GMail is set up to support the
> niclas@apache.org mail address. It seems it checks either Return-Path
> or Sender headers instead of FROM, and GMail sets the previous two to
> hedhman@gmail.com.
> On many lists, I have gotten complaints from moderators, which
> eventually allow my posts through, BUT community@a.o is set up without
> moderation and instead bounce the message.
>
> Hence, I can't post to community@apache.org. And I can imagine this
> being an awfully common situation among committers, and irritations
> from moderators. Is it something that could be (or is) looked into??
>
I'm in exactly the same situation. I commented about it a couple years n
IRC and members, IIRC. Without any change.
Regards
Santiago
> (I am not subscribed here.)
>
>
> Cheers