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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Tony Collen <tc...@neuagency.com> on 2003/03/18 21:14:22 UTC
Re: [TIPS] Basic configurations of Apache 2.0 for Cocoon 2
Reading this great article [1] (Thanks Pier!), I realized that the
mod_rewrite stuff could possibly be worked around using virtualhosts. I'm
not too familliar with Apache HTTPD 2, but I assume setting up vhosts is
not much different. Would it not make sense to create a static.domain.com
host (if you have the access and resources), and serve up all of your
images and resources out of there?
This would allow you to totally ignore the mod_rewrite nastiness. The
only problem I could see is having to directly reference static resources
with the full domain, for example:
<img src="http://static.domain.com/foo.png"/>
Then again, it's not all that much different than
<img src="/static/foo.png"/>
Since they are both absolute paths. Any thoughts on best practices?
Tony
[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=104441321803644&w=2
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Re: [TIPS] Basic configurations of Apache 2.0 for Cocoon 2
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
"Niclas Hedhman" <ni...@internuscorp.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 March 2003 04:14, Tony Collen wrote:
>> Reading this great article [1] (Thanks Pier!), I realized that the
>> mod_rewrite stuff could possibly be worked around using virtualhosts. I'm
>> not too familliar with Apache HTTPD 2, but I assume setting up vhosts is
>> not much different. Would it not make sense to create a static.domain.com
>> host (if you have the access and resources), and serve up all of your
>> images and resources out of there?
>>
>> This would allow you to totally ignore the mod_rewrite nastiness. The
>> only problem I could see is having to directly reference static resources
>> with the full domain, for example:
>>
>> <img src="http://static.domain.com/foo.png"/>
>>
>> Then again, it's not all that much different than
>>
>> <img src="/static/foo.png"/>
>>
>> Since they are both absolute paths. Any thoughts on best practices?
>
> I, personally, don't like having related content on separate hostnames (I
> don't like rewrites for same reason).
> The links becomes more prone to errors, especially in a mixed environment. If
> I don't have hosts (or depending on rewrites) in the links, I can setup
> offline environments which works (at least to a great degree), improving
> testability by the author.
Sometimes you can't actually avoid it... When you think about huge loads and
static-content geographic distribution... We're testing (for example) Akamai
for our images, and some of our bigger content is already going through
it...
Unfortunately/fortunately, this implies the use of a different hostname,
though...
For our JSPs (right now yes, we use JSPs, aaarrrggghhh), we have a custom
tag rewriting the "src" attribute of <vnu:img src="....">. Depending on the
environment, the server, the client, the image gets rewritten accordingly,
then all our content is synced over onto different machines (local and
remote), so that anyhow, anywhere, this will (should) work transparently for
the author...
Once we move to Cocoon, we'll have to achieve the same functionality...
Pier
Re: [TIPS] Basic configurations of Apache 2.0 for Cocoon 2
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@internuscorp.com>.
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 04:14, Tony Collen wrote:
> Reading this great article [1] (Thanks Pier!), I realized that the
> mod_rewrite stuff could possibly be worked around using virtualhosts. I'm
> not too familliar with Apache HTTPD 2, but I assume setting up vhosts is
> not much different. Would it not make sense to create a static.domain.com
> host (if you have the access and resources), and serve up all of your
> images and resources out of there?
>
> This would allow you to totally ignore the mod_rewrite nastiness. The
> only problem I could see is having to directly reference static resources
> with the full domain, for example:
>
> <img src="http://static.domain.com/foo.png"/>
>
> Then again, it's not all that much different than
>
> <img src="/static/foo.png"/>
>
> Since they are both absolute paths. Any thoughts on best practices?
I, personally, don't like having related content on separate hostnames (I
don't like rewrites for same reason).
The links becomes more prone to errors, especially in a mixed environment. If
I don't have hosts (or depending on rewrites) in the links, I can setup
offline environments which works (at least to a great degree), improving
testability by the author.
Niclas
Re: [TIPS] Basic configurations of Apache 2.0 for Cocoon 2
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 18/3/03 20:14, "Tony Collen" <tc...@neuagency.com> wrote:
> Reading this great article [1] (Thanks Pier!), I realized that the
> mod_rewrite stuff could possibly be worked around using virtualhosts. I'm
> not too familliar with Apache HTTPD 2, but I assume setting up vhosts is
> not much different. Would it not make sense to create a static.domain.com
> host (if you have the access and resources), and serve up all of your
> images and resources out of there?
>
> This would allow you to totally ignore the mod_rewrite nastiness. The
> only problem I could see is having to directly reference static resources
> with the full domain, for example:
>
> <img src="http://static.domain.com/foo.png"/>
>
> Then again, it's not all that much different than
>
> <img src="/static/foo.png"/>
>
> Since they are both absolute paths. Any thoughts on best practices?
You are absolutely utterly right...
We use this approach in production: all (most) images from
<http://www.vnunet.com/> (my employer's) end up to...
<http://images.vnunet.com/>
We're still not using cocoon, but I'm working on it! :-) :-)
Pier
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Re: [TIPS] Basic configurations of Apache 2.0 for Cocoon 2
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 18/3/03 20:14, "Tony Collen" <tc...@neuagency.com> wrote:
> Reading this great article [1] (Thanks Pier!), I realized that the
> mod_rewrite stuff could possibly be worked around using virtualhosts. I'm
> not too familliar with Apache HTTPD 2, but I assume setting up vhosts is
> not much different. Would it not make sense to create a static.domain.com
> host (if you have the access and resources), and serve up all of your
> images and resources out of there?
>
> This would allow you to totally ignore the mod_rewrite nastiness. The
> only problem I could see is having to directly reference static resources
> with the full domain, for example:
>
> <img src="http://static.domain.com/foo.png"/>
>
> Then again, it's not all that much different than
>
> <img src="/static/foo.png"/>
>
> Since they are both absolute paths. Any thoughts on best practices?
You are absolutely utterly right...
We use this approach in production: all (most) images from
<http://www.vnunet.com/> (my employer's) end up to...
<http://images.vnunet.com/>
We're still not using cocoon, but I'm working on it! :-) :-)
Pier