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Question about issue tracker
Hi,
Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the
broader apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor bugs is
like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are being reported
at an expoentially-growing rate and they are being fixed at a rate of
1-2 a week. The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20
seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please prioritize
accordingly?
Thank you,
Gili
(For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say things
are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
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Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
I was searching for exception reporter, that's why I never found anything :(
Thanks, Emilian I knew something existed somewhere
John
On 2 January 2018 at 06:02, Emilian Bold <em...@protonmail.ch> wrote:
> See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-164
>
> --emi
>
>
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: Re: Question about issue tracker
> >Local Time: 31 December 2017 3:52 PM
> >UTC Time: 31 December 2017 13:52
> >From: mcdonnell.john@gmail.com
> >To: cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>
> >users@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> >Hi Cowwoc,
> >
> >At the moment NetBeans in migrating over to Apache, and in the latter
> half of 2017, the first initial code drop took place containing the
> NetBeans platform and the basic Java modules, etc... As a result the old
> codebase stored in Oracle, i.e. https://netbeans.org/community/sources/
> is no longer applicable for use since the more up to date changes are
> happening in the code base found: https://github.com/
> apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> >This means the daily builds should be taken from here:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/
> job/incubator-netbeans-release/
> >
> >In relation to the exception reporter I believe there was some discussion
> about this, but I cannot seem to find it on the mailing lists, so maybe
> I'm imagining this. But your right, something will need to be done about
> this.
> >
> >
> >Please check out the new daily builds and please file any defects against
> the JIRA link previously provided. - If there are any high profile defects
> that might block you please report them as soon as possible thanks.
> >
> >John
> >
> >On 31 December 2017 at 12:42, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
> >>Hi Geertjan,
> >>
> >> I am getting the nightly builds from http://bits.netbeans.org/
> download/trunk/nightly/latest/
> >>
> >> Gili
> >>
> >>
> >>On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>Which
> >>> nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
> >>>
> >>>Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about
> >>> the same thing?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker
> >>>> for the broader apache community to tackle existing/old
> >>>> Netbeans bugs?
> >>>>
> >>>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java
> >>>> Editor bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw:
> >>>> major bugs are being reported at an expoentially-growing
> >>>> rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week. The
> >>>> nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
> >>>> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I
> >>>> routinely get NullPointerExceptions and "slow action"
> errors
> >>>> (actions taking 13-20 seconds to complete on a seemingly
> >>>> random basis).
> >>>>
> >>>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
> >>>> prioritize accordingly?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> Gili
> >>>>
> >>>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I
> >>>> say things are unstable I've got a long track-record to
> >>>> judge by)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists,
> >>>> visit:
> >>>>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@protonmail.ch>.
See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-164
--emi
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: Question about issue tracker
>Local Time: 31 December 2017 3:52 PM
>UTC Time: 31 December 2017 13:52
>From: mcdonnell.john@gmail.com
>To: cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>
>users@netbeans.apache.org
>
>Hi Cowwoc,
>
>At the moment NetBeans in migrating over to Apache, and in the latter half of 2017, the first initial code drop took place containing the NetBeans platform and the basic Java modules, etc... As a result the old codebase stored in Oracle, i.e. https://netbeans.org/community/sources/ is no longer applicable for use since the more up to date changes are happening in the code base found: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
>This means the daily builds should be taken from here: https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/
>
>In relation to the exception reporter I believe there was some discussion about this, but I cannot seem to find it on the mailing lists, so maybe I'm imagining this. But your right, something will need to be done about this.
>
>
>Please check out the new daily builds and please file any defects against the JIRA link previously provided. - If there are any high profile defects that might block you please report them as soon as possible thanks.
>
>John
>
>On 31 December 2017 at 12:42, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>>Hi Geertjan,
>>
>> I am getting the nightly builds from http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/
>>
>> Gili
>>
>>
>>On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>Which
>>> nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
>>>
>>>Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about
>>> the same thing?
>>>
>>>
>>>Gj
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker
>>>> for the broader apache community to tackle existing/old
>>>> Netbeans bugs?
>>>>
>>>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java
>>>> Editor bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw:
>>>> major bugs are being reported at an expoentially-growing
>>>> rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week. The
>>>> nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
>>>> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I
>>>> routinely get NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors
>>>> (actions taking 13-20 seconds to complete on a seemingly
>>>> random basis).
>>>>
>>>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
>>>> prioritize accordingly?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Gili
>>>>
>>>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I
>>>> say things are unstable I've got a long track-record to
>>>> judge by)
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists,
>>>> visit:
>>>>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>.
Done: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/351
Gili
On 2017-12-31 4:49 PM, John McDonnell wrote:
> You could, but for something this small, maybe we could convince you
> to join the effort :) then there's no need to file a JIRA ticket, you
> could always fork the repo, make the change in your local repo and
> then submit a PR, explicitly pointing out why you think the change is
> needed.
>
> All of this could be done quicker than a ticket, as it would probably
> be viewed as a low priority item ;)
>
> Details are found here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
> and
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408
> (still work in progress)
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On 31 December 2017 at 21:44, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thank you! Is it okay if I file a RFE asking for the download link
> to get added to README.md?
>
> Gili
>
>
> On 2017-12-31 8:52 AM, John McDonnell wrote:
>> Hi Cowwoc,
>>
>> At the moment NetBeans in migrating over to Apache, and in the
>> latter half of 2017, the first initial code drop took place
>> containing the NetBeans platform and the basic Java modules,
>> etc... As a result the old codebase stored in Oracle, i.e.
>> https://netbeans.org/community/sources/
>> <https://netbeans.org/community/sources/> is no longer applicable
>> for use since the more up to date changes are happening in the
>> code base found: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans>
>>
>> This means the daily builds should be taken from here:
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/
>> <https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/>
>>
>>
>> In relation to the exception reporter I believe there was some
>> discussion about this, but I cannot seem to find it on the
>> mailing lists, so maybe I'm imagining this. But your right,
>> something will need to be done about this.
>>
>>
>> Please check out the new daily builds and please file any defects
>> against the JIRA link previously provided. - If there are any
>> high profile defects that might block you please report them as
>> soon as possible thanks.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 31 December 2017 at 12:42, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
>> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Geertjan,
>>
>> I am getting the nightly builds from
>> http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/
>> <http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/>
>>
>> Gili
>>
>>
>> On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> Which nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
>>>
>>> Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about
>>> the same thing?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc
>>> <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue
>>> tracker for the broader apache community to tackle
>>> existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>>>
>>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java
>>> Editor bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw:
>>> major bugs are being reported at an expoentially-growing
>>> rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week.
>>> The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I
>>> am specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects
>>> where I routinely get NullPointerExceptions and "slow
>>> action" errors (actions taking 13-20 seconds to complete
>>> on a seemingly random basis).
>>>
>>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
>>> prioritize accordingly?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Gili
>>>
>>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so
>>> when I say things are unstable I've got a long
>>> track-record to judge by)
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>> users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> users-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>>
>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing
>>> lists, visit:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
You could, but for something this small, maybe we could convince you to
join the effort :) then there's no need to file a JIRA ticket, you could
always fork the repo, make the change in your local repo and then submit a
PR, explicitly pointing out why you think the change is needed.
All of this could be done quicker than a ticket, as it would probably be
viewed as a low priority item ;)
Details are found here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
and
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=74681408
(still work in progress)
Regards
John
On 31 December 2017 at 21:44, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Thank you! Is it okay if I file a RFE asking for the download link to get
> added to README.md?
>
> Gili
>
>
> On 2017-12-31 8:52 AM, John McDonnell wrote:
>
> Hi Cowwoc,
>
> At the moment NetBeans in migrating over to Apache, and in the latter half
> of 2017, the first initial code drop took place containing the NetBeans
> platform and the basic Java modules, etc... As a result the old codebase
> stored in Oracle, i.e. https://netbeans.org/community/sources/ is no
> longer applicable for use since the more up to date changes are happening
> in the code base found: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> This means the daily builds should be taken from here:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/
> job/incubator-netbeans-release/
>
> In relation to the exception reporter I believe there was some discussion
> about this, but I cannot seem to find it on the mailing lists, so maybe
> I'm imagining this. But your right, something will need to be done about
> this.
>
>
> Please check out the new daily builds and please file any defects against
> the JIRA link previously provided. - If there are any high profile defects
> that might block you please report them as soon as possible thanks.
>
> John
>
> On 31 December 2017 at 12:42, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Geertjan,
>>
>> I am getting the nightly builds from http://bits.netbeans.org/downl
>> oad/trunk/nightly/latest/
>>
>> Gili
>>
>>
>> On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>
>> Which nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
>>
>> Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about the same
>> thing?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the
>>> broader apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>>>
>>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor bugs is
>>> like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are being reported at
>>> an expoentially-growing rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a
>>> week. The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
>>> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
>>> NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20
>>> seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
>>>
>>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please prioritize
>>> accordingly?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Gili
>>>
>>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say things
>>> are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>
>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>.
Hi John,
Thank you! Is it okay if I file a RFE asking for the download link to
get added to README.md?
Gili
On 2017-12-31 8:52 AM, John McDonnell wrote:
> Hi Cowwoc,
>
> At the moment NetBeans in migrating over to Apache, and in the latter
> half of 2017, the first initial code drop took place containing the
> NetBeans platform and the basic Java modules, etc... As a result the
> old codebase stored in Oracle, i.e.
> https://netbeans.org/community/sources/ is no longer applicable
> for use since the more up to date changes are happening in the code
> base found: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> This means the daily builds should be taken from here:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/
>
>
> In relation to the exception reporter I believe there was some
> discussion about this, but I cannot seem to find it on the mailing
> lists, so maybe I'm imagining this. But your right, something will
> need to be done about this.
>
>
> Please check out the new daily builds and please file any defects
> against the JIRA link previously provided. - If there are any high
> profile defects that might block you please report them as soon as
> possible thanks.
>
> John
>
> On 31 December 2017 at 12:42, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Geertjan,
>
> I am getting the nightly builds from
> http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/
> <http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/>
>
> Gili
>
>
> On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> Which nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
>>
>> Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about the
>> same thing?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
>> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker
>> for the broader apache community to tackle existing/old
>> Netbeans bugs?
>>
>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java
>> Editor bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw:
>> major bugs are being reported at an expoentially-growing rate
>> and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week. The nightly
>> builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am specifically
>> concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
>> NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions
>> taking 13-20 seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
>>
>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
>> prioritize accordingly?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Gili
>>
>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I
>> say things are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>> users-help@netbeans.apache.org
>> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>
>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
>>
>
>
Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Cowwoc,
At the moment NetBeans in migrating over to Apache, and in the latter half
of 2017, the first initial code drop took place containing the NetBeans
platform and the basic Java modules, etc... As a result the old codebase
stored in Oracle, i.e. https://netbeans.org/community/sources/ is no longer
applicable for use since the more up to date changes are happening in the
code base found: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
This means the daily builds should be taken from here:
https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/
In relation to the exception reporter I believe there was some discussion
about this, but I cannot seem to find it on the mailing lists, so maybe
I'm imagining this. But your right, something will need to be done about
this.
Please check out the new daily builds and please file any defects against
the JIRA link previously provided. - If there are any high profile defects
that might block you please report them as soon as possible thanks.
John
On 31 December 2017 at 12:42, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
> Hi Geertjan,
>
> I am getting the nightly builds from http://bits.netbeans.org/
> download/trunk/nightly/latest/
>
> Gili
>
>
> On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> Which nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
>
> Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about the same thing?
>
> Gj
>
> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the
>> broader apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>>
>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor bugs is
>> like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are being reported at
>> an expoentially-growing rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a
>> week. The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
>> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
>> NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20
>> seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
>>
>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please prioritize
>> accordingly?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Gili
>>
>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say things
>> are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>
>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>
>>
>
Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>.
Hi Geertjan,
I am getting the nightly builds from
http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/
Gili
On 2017-12-31 3:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Which nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
>
> Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about the same
> thing?
>
> Gj
>
> On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the
> broader apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>
> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor
> bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are
> being reported at an expoentially-growing rate and they are being
> fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week. The nightly builds are frankly
> barely usable anymore. I am specifically concerned about Maven +
> Java projects where I routinely get NullPointerExceptions and
> "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20 seconds to complete on
> a seemingly random basis).
>
> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
> prioritize accordingly?
>
> Thank you,
> Gili
>
> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say
> things are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
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> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>
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>
Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Which nightly builds are you referring to specifically?
Can you provide a URL just to make sure we’re talking about the same thing?
Gj
On Sunday, December 31, 2017, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the broader
> apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>
> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor bugs is
> like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are being reported at
> an expoentially-growing rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a
> week. The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
> NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20
> seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
>
> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please prioritize
> accordingly?
>
> Thank you,
> Gili
>
> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say things are
> unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>
>
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Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>.
Hi John,
That is problematic. The Exception Reporter is still adding bugs to the
old issue tracker. If you plan to dump these reports (which we're
pouring hours and days into) then please migrate the Exception Reporter
to the new issue tracker as soon as possible.
I am getting my nightly builds from
http://bits.netbeans.org/download/trunk/nightly/latest/
Thanks,
Gili
On 2017-12-31 4:35 AM, John McDonnell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Which Nightly builds are you referring too? i.e. where are you getting
> them from?
>
> As for the bug tracker, there are no current plans to migrate bugs
> from https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/ to
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=216 If
> you know of any bugs that are on the old Bugzilla and there still
> affecting you then please make sure you open the defect in JIRA and
> maybe post on this mailing list to help draw attention to it.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 31 December 2017 at 06:28, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the
> broader apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>
> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor
> bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are
> being reported at an expoentially-growing rate and they are being
> fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week. The nightly builds are frankly
> barely usable anymore. I am specifically concerned about Maven +
> Java projects where I routinely get NullPointerExceptions and
> "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20 seconds to complete on
> a seemingly random basis).
>
> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
> prioritize accordingly?
>
> Thank you,
> Gili
>
> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say
> things are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>
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Re: Question about issue tracker
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Which Nightly builds are you referring too? i.e. where are you getting them
from?
As for the bug tracker, there are no current plans to migrate bugs from
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/ to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=216 If you
know of any bugs that are on the old Bugzilla and there still affecting you
then please make sure you open the defect in JIRA and maybe post on this
mailing list to help draw attention to it.
Regards
John
On 31 December 2017 at 06:28, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the broader
> apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>
> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor bugs is
> like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are being reported at
> an expoentially-growing rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a
> week. The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
> NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20
> seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
>
> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please prioritize
> accordingly?
>
> Thank you,
> Gili
>
> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say things are
> unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Question about issue tracker
Posted by Dawn Raison <dz...@lemur.co.uk>.
One more I'd add -
http://statistics.netbeans.org/analytics/detail.do?id=225493 (The {{
exception)
Quite possibly the same root cause as some of the others below (editor
state gets confused).
This happens maybe 4 times a week, but when it does you have to close
out and restart or lines start to disappear from your file without the
possibility of undo.
Dawn
On 02/01/2018 21:07, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> I've accidentally responded only to Gili outside the list, apologizes.
> Forwarding the conversation.
>
> Jan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *cowwoc* <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>>
> Date: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Question about issue tracker
> To: Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
>
> Yes. Go ahead.
>
> Gili
>
>
> On 2017-12-31 10:04 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
>> Hi Gili,
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer. I'll look at what I can. I accidentally sent
>> the e-mail just to you instead of the mailing list - is it OK to
>> forward your e-mail back to the mailing lists?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:02 PM, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
>> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> Here are some concrete examples:
>>
>> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270632
>> <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270632> <-- makes
>> IDE slow to the point of being unusable
>> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252602
>> <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252602> <-- not as
>> bad, but still extremely annoying if you are using Find Usages
>> frequently
>> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270272
>> <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270272> <--
>> impossible to debug lambdas
>> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=250595
>> <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=250595> <-- error
>> that depends on your project state, but once you get into this
>> bad state it is extremely annoying (parsing errors get thrown
>> very frequently)
>> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255791
>> <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255791> <--
>> parsing issue similar to previous one
>> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271633
>> <https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271633> <-- cannot
>> code-complete methods in enums. I've recently seen a similar
>> problem for non-enum anonymous classes. End result: I keep on
>> having to type method prototypes by hand.
>>
>> Some of these issues have been around for years. There are
>> stack-traces, profiler dumps, and sometimes even full-out repro
>> steps but there has been no follow-up from the committers' end.
>> Communication is very important to prevent bug reports from
>> becoming stale, so if you are unable to reproduce the issue the
>> sooner you tell me the better so we can collect more logs.
>>
>> Anyway, fixing some/most of these bugs would go a long way
>> towards improving my working experience with Netbeans. For the
>> past couple of years I have felt that we should dedicate an
>> entire release towards bug fixing (no new features) to make
>> Netbeans more reliable and performant. It's still a good IDE but
>> compared to Intellij there is no comparison (this was not always
>> the case). I want to keep on using Netbeans, so I hope we can
>> streamline this process.
>>
>> PS: It is absolutely vital that the Exception Reporter
>> infrastructure be moved over to the new bug tracker. I can't
>> imagine having to report all these issues by hand... The vast
>> majority of bugs I run into on a daily basis are
>> NullPointerExceptions, parsing errors, and such. In these cases,
>> the Exception Reporter does a better job than I would collecting
>> all the relevant files (and keystoke history) to help you
>> reproduce the problem.
>>
>> PS2: If you want to save users even more time, try detecting if a
>> bug is known before asking us to enter a description. Very often
>> I see a report is fully fleshed out and all I need to log my vote
>> ("I'm impacted by this bug"). Asking me to enter a description
>> each time is annoying and discourages me from reporting bugs in
>> the first place.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gili
>>
>>
>> On 2017-12-31 3:04 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
>>> Hi Gili,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:28 AM, cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org
>>> <ma...@bbs.darktech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker
>>> for the broader apache community to tackle existing/old
>>> Netbeans bugs?
>>>
>>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java
>>> Editor bugs is like sucking a milkshake through a straw:
>>> major bugs are being reported at an expoentially-growing
>>> rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a week. The
>>> nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
>>> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I
>>> routinely get NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors
>>> (actions taking 13-20 seconds to complete on a seemingly
>>> random basis).
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have links to the bugs reported about the problems you
>>> see? (Using the Apache tracker for new bugs would be strongly
>>> preferred.) Or are there some pull requests?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please
>>> prioritize accordingly?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Gili
>>>
>>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I
>>> say things are unstable I've got a long track-record to
>>> judge by)
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Fwd: Question about issue tracker
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
I've accidentally responded only to Gili outside the list, apologizes.
Forwarding the conversation.
Jan
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org>
Date: Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Question about issue tracker
To: Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>
Yes. Go ahead.
Gili
On 2017-12-31 10:04 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
Hi Gili,
Thanks for the pointer. I'll look at what I can. I accidentally sent the
e-mail just to you instead of the mailing list - is it OK to forward your
e-mail back to the mailing lists?
Thanks,
Jan
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:02 PM, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> Here are some concrete examples:
>
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270632 <-- makes IDE slow
> to the point of being unusable
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252602 <-- not as bad, but
> still extremely annoying if you are using Find Usages frequently
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270272 <-- impossible to
> debug lambdas
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=250595 <-- error that
> depends on your project state, but once you get into this bad state it is
> extremely annoying (parsing errors get thrown very frequently)
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255791 <-- parsing issue
> similar to previous one
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271633 <-- cannot
> code-complete methods in enums. I've recently seen a similar problem for
> non-enum anonymous classes. End result: I keep on having to type method
> prototypes by hand.
>
> Some of these issues have been around for years. There are stack-traces,
> profiler dumps, and sometimes even full-out repro steps but there has been
> no follow-up from the committers' end. Communication is very important to
> prevent bug reports from becoming stale, so if you are unable to reproduce
> the issue the sooner you tell me the better so we can collect more logs.
>
> Anyway, fixing some/most of these bugs would go a long way towards
> improving my working experience with Netbeans. For the past couple of years
> I have felt that we should dedicate an entire release towards bug fixing
> (no new features) to make Netbeans more reliable and performant. It's still
> a good IDE but compared to Intellij there is no comparison (this was not
> always the case). I want to keep on using Netbeans, so I hope we can
> streamline this process.
>
> PS: It is absolutely vital that the Exception Reporter infrastructure be
> moved over to the new bug tracker. I can't imagine having to report all
> these issues by hand... The vast majority of bugs I run into on a daily
> basis are NullPointerExceptions, parsing errors, and such. In these cases,
> the Exception Reporter does a better job than I would collecting all the
> relevant files (and keystoke history) to help you reproduce the problem.
>
> PS2: If you want to save users even more time, try detecting if a bug is
> known before asking us to enter a description. Very often I see a report is
> fully fleshed out and all I need to log my vote ("I'm impacted by this
> bug"). Asking me to enter a description each time is annoying and
> discourages me from reporting bugs in the first place.
>
> Thanks,
> Gili
>
>
> On 2017-12-31 3:04 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
>
> Hi Gili,
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:28 AM, cowwoc <co...@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are there any plans to open up (migrate) the issue tracker for the
>> broader apache community to tackle existing/old Netbeans bugs?
>>
>> I ask because I feel like the bandwidth for fixing Java Editor bugs is
>> like sucking a milkshake through a straw: major bugs are being reported at
>> an expoentially-growing rate and they are being fixed at a rate of 1-2 a
>> week. The nightly builds are frankly barely usable anymore. I am
>> specifically concerned about Maven + Java projects where I routinely get
>> NullPointerExceptions and "slow action" errors (actions taking 13-20
>> seconds to complete on a seemingly random basis).
>>
>
> Do you have links to the bugs reported about the problems you see? (Using
> the Apache tracker for new bugs would be strongly preferred.) Or are there
> some pull requests?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
>>
>> This component needs more love. And soon. Can you please prioritize
>> accordingly?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Gili
>>
>> (For context, I've been using Netbeans since 1999 so when I say things
>> are unstable I've got a long track-record to judge by)
>>
>>
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