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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org> on 2011/08/31 18:50:52 UTC

RE: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest

I'm not interested in the Linux builds -- lots of people handle that -- but I have a question about IRC usage.  And also time zone impacts.  Will you provide time windows in UTC so we can all see what that will take for us to be there synchronously?

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 09:02
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> We're blessed to have experienced OOo hackers on the list who have
> already jumped on the new code repository and started making
> improvements.
>
> But I see we have 214 people subscribed to the mailing list, including
> many who were not previously working on OOo code.  This is great.
> Growing the community to bring in new developers is key to the success
> of the project.
>
> Do any of you want to get an AOOo dev environment set up, so you can
> build OpenOffice?  If so, please respond to this note, and state what
> operating system you are interested in building on.
>
> Based on this information, we can have a discussion on how best to get
> you up to speed, whether via Q&A on this list, via IRC chat, a phone
> conference or maybe even a virtual machine image.
>

A lot of good feedback on this idea.  Thanks!

>From the responses I've read, it sounds like the most popular choice
is Linux.  So let's start there.

Could we start on Wed September 7th?  And run this "event" through the weekend?

Goals would be:

1) Enable volunteers who want to build under Linux

2) Create build instructions that are under ALv2, so we can include
them in the release.  This is a good thing to draft on the "dev" wiki.

I'd like to do a put a post in the AOOo blog on this, to maybe attract
some additional developers who may want to participate

In the blog post I'd put the link to the SVN tree, the IRC channel,
and the pre-reqs.

BTW, what should say the pre-reqs are for storage?  Source, including
/main and /extras is around 4GB.  Matthias suggested 70 GB for
building, which could be done on fast external storage.  So 75 GB free
space total is reasonable?

Do we have any RAM guidance?  is 1GB sufficient?  2 GB?

-Rob



>
> -Rob
>


RE: subject changing with outlook insight (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest)

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Thanks,

I'll watch out for that.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Eike Rathke [mailto:ooo@erack.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 15:18
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: subject changing with outlook insight (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest)

Hi Dennis,

On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 12:50:34 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> This clearly has some effect that is not visible to me.  Sorry.

Apparently MS Outlook in its great wisdom decides to strip also
References and In-Reply-To headers when you change the subject, so the
mail loses all thread context.

  Eike

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Re: subject changing with outlook insight

Posted by Eike Rathke <oo...@erack.de>.
Hi Marcus,

On Thursday, 2011-09-01 00:35:17 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> >Apparently MS Outlook in its great wisdom decides to strip also
> >References and In-Reply-To headers when you change the subject, so the
> >mail loses all thread context.
> 
> Hm, then Thunderbird is not clever enough, too. Here the thread has
> also split. :-(

Of course, because as said Outlook removed References and In-Reply-To
headers. There's nothing wrong with Thunderbird, every mail agent now
sees a new thread. Even Mutt ;-)

  Eike

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Re: subject changing with outlook insight

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 09/01/2011 12:18 AM, schrieb Eike Rathke:
> Hi Dennis,
>
> On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 12:50:34 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>
>> This clearly has some effect that is not visible to me.  Sorry.
>
> Apparently MS Outlook in its great wisdom decides to strip also
> References and In-Reply-To headers when you change the subject, so the
> mail loses all thread context.

Hm, then Thunderbird is not clever enough, too. Here the thread has also 
split. :-(

Marcus

subject changing with outlook insight (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest)

Posted by Eike Rathke <oo...@erack.de>.
Hi Dennis,

On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 12:50:34 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> This clearly has some effect that is not visible to me.  Sorry.

Apparently MS Outlook in its great wisdom decides to strip also
References and In-Reply-To headers when you change the subject, so the
mail loses all thread context.

  Eike

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RE: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
This clearly has some effect that is not visible to me.  Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: rabastus@gmail.com [mailto:rabastus@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:08
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<de...@acm.org> wrote:
> I'm not interested in the Linux builds -- lots of people handle that -- but I have a question about IRC usage.  And also time zone impacts.  Will you provide time windows in UTC so we can all see what that will take for us to be there synchronously?
>

Could you avoid changing the subject line when you haven't really
changed the topic?  A new thread for a new topic, yes, of course. But
if we're already talking about IRC and building OpenOffice, it seems
extravagant to make a new thread merely to mention timezones with IRC
and building OpenOffice.

>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 09:02
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We're blessed to have experienced OOo hackers on the list who have
>> already jumped on the new code repository and started making
>> improvements.
>>
>> But I see we have 214 people subscribed to the mailing list, including
>> many who were not previously working on OOo code.  This is great.
>> Growing the community to bring in new developers is key to the success
>> of the project.
>>
>> Do any of you want to get an AOOo dev environment set up, so you can
>> build OpenOffice?  If so, please respond to this note, and state what
>> operating system you are interested in building on.
>>
>> Based on this information, we can have a discussion on how best to get
>> you up to speed, whether via Q&A on this list, via IRC chat, a phone
>> conference or maybe even a virtual machine image.
>>
>
> A lot of good feedback on this idea.  Thanks!
>
> From the responses I've read, it sounds like the most popular choice
> is Linux.  So let's start there.
>
> Could we start on Wed September 7th?  And run this "event" through the weekend?
>
> Goals would be:
>
> 1) Enable volunteers who want to build under Linux
>
> 2) Create build instructions that are under ALv2, so we can include
> them in the release.  This is a good thing to draft on the "dev" wiki.
>
> I'd like to do a put a post in the AOOo blog on this, to maybe attract
> some additional developers who may want to participate
>
> In the blog post I'd put the link to the SVN tree, the IRC channel,
> and the pre-reqs.
>
> BTW, what should say the pre-reqs are for storage?  Source, including
> /main and /extras is around 4GB.  Matthias suggested 70 GB for
> building, which could be done on fast external storage.  So 75 GB free
> space total is reasonable?
>
> Do we have any RAM guidance?  is 1GB sufficient?  2 GB?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
>


Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice? - hackfest

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@robweir.com>.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<de...@acm.org> wrote:
> I'm not interested in the Linux builds -- lots of people handle that -- but I have a question about IRC usage.  And also time zone impacts.  Will you provide time windows in UTC so we can all see what that will take for us to be there synchronously?
>

Could you avoid changing the subject line when you haven't really
changed the topic?  A new thread for a new topic, yes, of course. But
if we're already talking about IRC and building OpenOffice, it seems
extravagant to make a new thread merely to mention timezones with IRC
and building OpenOffice.

>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 09:02
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> We're blessed to have experienced OOo hackers on the list who have
>> already jumped on the new code repository and started making
>> improvements.
>>
>> But I see we have 214 people subscribed to the mailing list, including
>> many who were not previously working on OOo code.  This is great.
>> Growing the community to bring in new developers is key to the success
>> of the project.
>>
>> Do any of you want to get an AOOo dev environment set up, so you can
>> build OpenOffice?  If so, please respond to this note, and state what
>> operating system you are interested in building on.
>>
>> Based on this information, we can have a discussion on how best to get
>> you up to speed, whether via Q&A on this list, via IRC chat, a phone
>> conference or maybe even a virtual machine image.
>>
>
> A lot of good feedback on this idea.  Thanks!
>
> From the responses I've read, it sounds like the most popular choice
> is Linux.  So let's start there.
>
> Could we start on Wed September 7th?  And run this "event" through the weekend?
>
> Goals would be:
>
> 1) Enable volunteers who want to build under Linux
>
> 2) Create build instructions that are under ALv2, so we can include
> them in the release.  This is a good thing to draft on the "dev" wiki.
>
> I'd like to do a put a post in the AOOo blog on this, to maybe attract
> some additional developers who may want to participate
>
> In the blog post I'd put the link to the SVN tree, the IRC channel,
> and the pre-reqs.
>
> BTW, what should say the pre-reqs are for storage?  Source, including
> /main and /extras is around 4GB.  Matthias suggested 70 GB for
> building, which could be done on fast external storage.  So 75 GB free
> space total is reasonable?
>
> Do we have any RAM guidance?  is 1GB sufficient?  2 GB?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
>